Geo Zones not accurate

[hunterws]

Was flying today, wanted to show dad what it's all about.
So, we found a place outside a geo zone to fly.
Got all set-up and was going towards the woods, when I got a warning. Controller went red, blip blip blip like interference, then RTH.

I checked the zones prior to take-off. I was outside of them. After it landed, I checked again, and there was a golden ring, a little wider than what the app told me prior.
Any insight to this is appreciated. My paranoid side thinks someone was bored at the tower and just wanted to troll me. ha

Didn't give me any warnings, all was green and going well, then all of a sudden it was like something or someone else took over and interrupted my reception, triggering an RTH.

 

[kloogee]

That doesn’t sound like a geofencing issue at all. Sounds like you just had a disconnect.

 

[hunterws]

That doesn’t sound like a geofencing issue at all. Sounds like you just had a disconnect.

Well, but everything was going ducky, then an RTH .... looked at geozone map again, and the gold appeared after the fact. *shrug*

 

[kloogee]

Gold is just a warning zone. It wouldn’t do anything. You would have to be in an authorization or restricted zone to cause you problems.

Also, they don’t just appear out of nowhere. In the web app they will show up if you select them in the check box below the map.


Pretty much every airport also has an associated warning zone.

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[hunterws]

We drove to another area that was well outside those zones and it still was giving me NFZ
Should be a warning zone, ok ... but this acted strange and was an automatic RTH

 

[WithTheBirds]

A disconnect will also be an RTH initiation (if set in the app). Have you considered looking at the flight log? Might give some clarity.

 

[hunterws]

A disconnect will also be an RTH initiation (if set in the app). Have you considered looking at the flight log? Might give some clarity.

Just studied the flight log ... and it does not document anything before or after the action.
I swear, it was a total disconnect .. interrupted somehow.

I still wonder what the gold band is...

 

[ob1quixote]

Any presidential candidates in town?

 

[hunterws]

No, ... when president Trump was in Minneapolis just up the river .... the entire place was a red no-fly zone. *shrug*

Really curious what that gold outer ring is hmm

 

[kloogee]

No, ... when president Trump was in Minneapolis just up the river .... the entire place was a red no-fly zone. *shrug*

Really curious what that gold outer ring is hmm

You’ve asked now 3 times what the gold outer ring is after I already explained it and provided a link to DJI’s website that explain it. I’ll provide the details again:

Gold is just a warning zone. It wouldn’t do anything. You would have to be in an authorization or restricted zone to cause you problems.

Also, they don’t just appear out of nowhere. In the web app they will show up if you select them in the check box below the map.
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Pretty much every airport also has an associated warning zone.

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[sar104]

No, ... when president Trump was in Minneapolis just up the river .... the entire place was a red no-fly zone. *shrug*

Really curious what that gold outer ring is hmm

I suggest that you take a closer look at the DJI FlySafe website. The meaning of all the different colored zones is fully explained. Yellow is a warning zone, and you have to select the option to display it.

Warning Zones. In these Zones, which may not necessarily appear on the DJI GO map, users will be prompted with a warning message. ​

Example Warning Zone: Class E airspace​

Warning zones will not cause RTH, which from your description was simply due to a loss of connection between the controller and the aircraft. The log files will show that.

 

[hunterws]

You’ve asked now 3 times what the gold outer ring is after I already explained it and provided a link to DJI’s website that explain it. I’ll provide the details again:

If you're cranky, just move along, thanks.

 

[hunterws]

Thanks sar104 !
I checked log, but nothing notable. I did receive a warning, hit ok and was just going to fly around that local valley.
Just by chance lost connection then I guess ... but at 150 yards? hmm

Now I see the check marks on the BOTTOM of their map heh.
Thanks again.

 

[TheRock]

I was flying in Yap, Micronesia on the edge of a NFZ. It would let me take off but when it came to landing, the drone would not come back to the landing pad, sitting (over water) 25 feet out and not responding to controls. I had to walk farther out of the "zone" that I was supposedly out of and land the drone in the parking lot of a hardware store. This happened twice. So guess you need a lot of buffer when you are right near the zone as seen on the controller.

 

[hunterws]

I believe the warning zones are actually controlled by human. I had flown my friends mavic towards a bridge, and at one point, it would not allow me to go further, full speed forward and it was just hovering. It was right where the warning zones went from 150ft allowance to 60.

Now, looking at the map with alllll the warning zones, when we were at that park, we were right in the class D & E airspace, doesn't give "XXft ceiling" info, but I checked my flights last night, and while at the park, just before I lost control, I had risen to 152ft when the entire thing went haywire, and I lost all control, RTH.

I was in E2 airspace, requiring LAANC clearance . This newb has a lot to learn. This thread showed me how to get alllll the zones

I'm thinking local towers have a lot more control than we know about. (as with anything ran by bureaucracy)

 

[hunterws]

Well, it's not me being crazy or lazy .... with this much misinformation and inaccuracies, anyone would be confused.
Some maps tell you not to fly (LSE regional) ... other maps tell you 400'.
grrrr

 

[Thomas B]

Just tried it on my phone... via the app. I’m near the edge class d airspace. Ap did what it should and have me the green when flight radius was reduced so that it did not extend into the restricted space

 

[hunterws]

Just wrote to the airport director, I will update this thread with their reply.

 

[hunterws]

Just tried it on my phone... via the app. I’m near the edge class d airspace. Ap did what it should and have me the green when flight radius was reduced so that it did not extend into the restricted space

But, did you see how on some apps, it says I'm a-ok to fly at 400' where I was, then the airport just blankets the 5-mile radius as an authorization zone?!?
I just wrote to them for clarification. I want to do the right thing, but my head is spinning trying to figure it out (outdated info).

 

[sar104]

I believe the warning zones are actually controlled by human. I had flown my friends mavic towards a bridge, and at one point, it would not allow me to go further, full speed forward and it was just hovering. It was right where the warning zones went from 150ft allowance to 60.

Now, looking at the map with alllll the warning zones, when we were at that park, we were right in the class D & E airspace, doesn't give "XXft ceiling" info, but I checked my flights last night, and while at the park, just before I lost control, I had risen to 152ft when the entire thing went haywire, and I lost all control, RTH.

I was in E2 airspace, requiring LAANC clearance . This newb has a lot to learn. This thread showed me how to get alllll the zones

I'm thinking local towers have a lot more control than we know about. (as with anything ran by bureaucracy)

No - they are permanently coded into the DJI geo database - no one is altering them manually. And the DJI zones are not directly linked to the FAA altitude grids. And the local towers have absolutely nothing to do with either of those databases.

Well, it's not me being crazy or lazy .... with this much misinformation and inaccuracies, anyone would be confused.
Some maps tell you not to fly (LSE regional) ... other maps tell you 400'.
grrrr

You are confusing the DJI geo zones with other advisory sources and the FAA LAANC grids. There is no misinformation involved, just varying advice. If you want to know the definitive answer to where you can fly unrestricted, where you need authorization, and where you cannot fly at all, then you need to rely on just the sectionals and LAANC database.