Maven: Any opinions on this?
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THE CYBORG
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The app store says free but the Dronelink site says the hobbyist plan ranges from $20 to $80.
Am I missing something ?
Am I missing something ?
You got it right. I was hoping they would have the mission planning web portal open to the public to see how well you can plan test missions like you can on Litchi, but no go on that one. I think I saw where DroneLink will refund your money if you don't like it within the first month. I think I'll stay with LItchi for now.
I am a bit confused on why the DroneLink Program is being discussed? The OP linked to the Maven App and it's capabilities. While all (Litchi, DroneLink & Maven) are similar, I believe Maven was the first to use the new SDK to give the MA2 Waypoints. Again these apps (Except Litchi at present) are using the Virtual Stick input to fly waypoints vice Litchi's former approach to use in Aircraft computations for flight. Of note DroneLink is Android or iOS, while Maven is iOS only at this point. Litchi has yet to implement any WayPoint capabilities on the DJI Fly App side of aircraft.
The Maven and DroneLink Apps rely heavily (Solely) on your device (Phone/Tablet) to provide computations. As such those devices that are a bit under powered (Dare I say borderline/budget) will give jerky and less than stellar smooth footage. This shouldn't be a problem on the iOS side but the Android side is going to be the issue here.
The Maven and DroneLink Apps rely heavily (Solely) on your device (Phone/Tablet) to provide computations. As such those devices that are a bit under powered (Dare I say borderline/budget) will give jerky and less than stellar smooth footage. This shouldn't be a problem on the iOS side but the Android side is going to be the issue here.
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And yes this has been out for going on 5 years now for DJI.
On DJI's Go 3 and Go 4 App most DJI Aircraft can do this natively. The third party apps expounded on capabilities and functions from there. 
That's great news for me...I've heard a lot of people really wanting Litchi capabilities but still being a newb I didn't even know what it could do.And yes this has been out for going on 5 years now for DJI.
As I mentioned, being able to plan a normal speed flight pattern (not hyperlapse fast motion) would be absolutely wonderful for someone like me (a rather crappy pilot that just wants good footage) with whatever app would do it.
It's good to know I'll be informed here whenever it does become a thing!
Thanks all,
Randy
Randy, you will find that the more you put in the more you get out. Keep flying manual all you can. Then you can go from "Crappy" to Advanced. DJI gives the quick shots and such to help all, but as time goes on and you become a more accomplished flier you will find it's just easier to do all these auto functions yourself.
Case in point is the "Orbit" or "Circle" quick shot by these third party apps using virtual stick tech. They quite often are not very smooth, but a accomplished pilot that takes some time to practice that manuver can pull it off quite easily... Baby Steps my man...Happy holidays
I'll admit I can't do this one myself
I have taken advantage of quickshots, etc and appreciate their usefulness and I will definitely keep practicing my flying "skills" but pretty much the whole reason I bought this drone was to get smooth footage to sync to my music and not so much for the adrenaline pumping flying part of it.Randy, you will find that the more you put in the more you get out. Keep flying manual all you can. Then you can go from "Crappy" to Advanced. DJI gives the quick shots and such to help all, but as time goes on and you become a more accomplished flier you will find it's just easier to do all these auto functions yourself.
Case in point is the "Orbit" or "Circle" quick shot by these third party apps using virtual stick tech. They quite often are not very smooth, but a accomplished pilot that takes some time to practice that manuver can pull it off quite easily... Baby Steps my man...Happy holidays
I'll admit I can't do this one myself
I probably don't actually enjoy flying as much as the rest of you but very much look forward to someday finish a video project and know it's all my creation (good or bad : )
To be able to pre plan missions including angles, altitudes, etc would be all I could ask for (and maybe my butt wouldn't be as sore the next day from clenching it so much).
I may have mentioned this before but my oldest son had never flown a drone and flew my MA2 better than I may ever be able to.
I can only imagine it's because he played video games all his childhood (and still does as an adult) and the fact I've never had any interest in them whatsoever.
All that said, I will take your advice and keep praticing : )
THE CYBORG
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Prismatic
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That's doubtless true for many, but for those of us who have trouble with fine motor-control (and we are legion), manual flying will never be buttery smooth. For us, automated flight is often the only way to get cinematic footage, whether through built-in functionality (orbits, tap-fly, etc) or 3rd-party control apps (Litchi, Dronelink, Maven, etc).
I admire, perhaps even envy, those who can manually fly their bird with grace and precision and finesse. I'm sure it's very gratifying. And I do fly manually for pleasure, for the bird's-eye experience, to survey the landscape around me, to find things of interest, and so on.
But while I enjoy every airborne minute of that, no amount of practice will ever steady my hands; there's no denying a neurological reality.
Beyond that, though, I find that the effort of planning a mission really pays dividends. With a good set of tools--I use Litchi and VLM extensively--you can see in advance how to best capture your subject in situ. You can explore a hundred options, weed out visual clutter, frame shots for maximum impact, discover flight paths that you might not have initially imagined, and so on and on.
So I won't ever be ashamed of using automated flight control. It not only dramatically expands the range of possibilities for me, it makes me think more carefully about how to best capture my subject. And I really don't give a fig what anyone else thinks of it.
Prismatic
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Don't worry too much about becoming a "top gun" pilot; it doesn't matter. As you mention, video gamers have uncounted hours of intensive motor-skills training that makes piloting a drone much more natural and intuitive for them. Those who have never touched a game controller begin our flying with a distinct handicap.
What you want is all that matters. If you're not in it for the flying, per se, if flying is only the means to your ends, that's perfect, I say! That's pretty much my case, too, though I do find my enjoyment has increased--and my terror decreased--as I've gained flying experience over time.
I use Litchi and Virtual Litchi Mission because:
- I'm a skinflint; most other options would require an upgrade from the iPad Mini 4 I use for flying.
- I'm able to very precisely obtain exactly the footage I want. If I wait until I'm on-site, I generally later discover real shortcomings in my results: too high, too low, too fast, too slow, poorly framed, and/or missing shots I wish I'd taken. And in my case, inevitably choppy movements because of my neurological glitch.
Best luck to you!
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Looks like I have a lot of research ahead of me but I'm very excited to get on it...thank you!
I understand this is virtual stick.
In a video when you start they say it is uploaded t the drone?
So if signal is lost it can complete the mission?
Really thinking of getting this app.
Anyone sure about this point?
Thanks been reading as much as I can before asking
In a video when you start they say it is uploaded t the drone?
So if signal is lost it can complete the mission?
Really thinking of getting this app.
Anyone sure about this point?
Thanks been reading as much as I can before asking
ninja_geezer
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what would be the big deal if signal was lost and RTH is initiated ? im sure the mission could be re flown from a nearer point as to not lose the signal ,,,,,ive not lost a signal since i bought my MA2 back in June last year ,ok i fly in a mostly rural area but ive been out over 6km without issues,and yes ive seen the behind the big water tower video ,i bet if he was closer there would have been no issue.
ive seen and read some great things about dronelink and then ive seen a litchi user slate it for being virtual sticks only i must be missing a point somewhere i guess, i may give mavern a try at some point as well as litchi and dronelink and see which i prefer ,at the end of the day mine is only for non pro use atm.i do know at this time there is no litchi for the Ma2 as i have asked already ,maybe a month or 2 .
Just ran my first waypoint with maven.
Worked great easy to program the flight.
Cold up in northern Ontario today lol
Just need one good run set for the winter seen.
Will update as I work threw it all
Only had the MA2 for two months.
Sold my Yuneec typhoon H plus for it and moved to DJI
Loving it all so far great drone small size.
As I’ll be using it on my boat salmon fishing charters for clients
The H was a great drone but large
Have been looking for waypoints for a while and pulled the trigger on maven
So far so great
Worked great easy to program the flight.
Cold up in northern Ontario today lol
Just need one good run set for the winter seen.
Will update as I work threw it all
Only had the MA2 for two months.
Sold my Yuneec typhoon H plus for it and moved to DJI
Loving it all so far great drone small size.
As I’ll be using it on my boat salmon fishing charters for clients
The H was a great drone but large
Have been looking for waypoints for a while and pulled the trigger on maven
So far so great
EyesWideShut
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With the Mini, I've been using 3rd party apps much more than the Fly app. Litchi/Maven/Red Waypoints. I enjoy learning the ins and outs of the apps. For me they all have different features (for the mini) that set them apart from each other from Waypoints, to Follow, Panoramas, Virtual Reality and Orbit etc.
I especially like Mavic Maven, an 3rd party app that along with WPs, FPV, GeoFence etc., has a new feature called CoPilot. It's like "Quickshots" for mini's on steroids! You can easily set up and turn an Orbit/Circle into a spiral or matrix by controlling circle radius, speed, direction, altitude, and even the POI and camera orientation while flying.
In Maven's CoPilot Mode there's also a CableCam function that is like Fly's "Quickshot's Dronie" but again, being on steroids, while flying, you can easily change speeds, direction, altitude, POI and camera orientation etc.
One word of caution, today I was quickly trying out a new update in the CableCam mode in a small area and forgot how that while in the cablecam mode the speed of the mini keeps increasing/decreasing with stick input. With the stick returned to neutral the mini remains at the last speed until you give it reverse stick. So in your first few flights just be aware that with no hands on the stick it doesn't brake like we're used to. It keeps on going "along the Cable" at the same constant speed until you apply stick in the opposite direction to slow or stop or reverse direction. Try using little stick bumps and release to increase/decrease speed/altitude and let the "CoPilot" control the orientation and camera at the POI.
Here's a link to Mavic Maven - Maven – For DJI Drones – This App will let you fly your DJI™ Drone like never before! - if you want to check the app and it's features out. Has anyone else with a mini tried it out??
I especially like Mavic Maven, an 3rd party app that along with WPs, FPV, GeoFence etc., has a new feature called CoPilot. It's like "Quickshots" for mini's on steroids! You can easily set up and turn an Orbit/Circle into a spiral or matrix by controlling circle radius, speed, direction, altitude, and even the POI and camera orientation while flying.
In Maven's CoPilot Mode there's also a CableCam function that is like Fly's "Quickshot's Dronie" but again, being on steroids, while flying, you can easily change speeds, direction, altitude, POI and camera orientation etc.
One word of caution, today I was quickly trying out a new update in the CableCam mode in a small area and forgot how that while in the cablecam mode the speed of the mini keeps increasing/decreasing with stick input. With the stick returned to neutral the mini remains at the last speed until you give it reverse stick. So in your first few flights just be aware that with no hands on the stick it doesn't brake like we're used to. It keeps on going "along the Cable" at the same constant speed until you apply stick in the opposite direction to slow or stop or reverse direction. Try using little stick bumps and release to increase/decrease speed/altitude and let the "CoPilot" control the orientation and camera at the POI.
Here's a link to Mavic Maven - Maven – For DJI Drones – This App will let you fly your DJI™ Drone like never before! - if you want to check the app and it's features out. Has anyone else with a mini tried it out??
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