Drone Scanner NOW WORKING!!!

[michaeldallen1]

It's June 17th and I just downloaded Dronetag's DRONE SCANNER app.
My Mavic 3 Classic is RID compliant, but it doesn't show up on the app.
Drone Scanner says it has scanned for Blue Tooth AND Wi-Fi- and says
that there are "0" ZERO drones around.
I see the the GPS map on the app is accurate.... I see my location dead center on screen.
My drone is 50 feet away and 80 feet AGL.... but not recognized.
Are the drones not transmitting RID signals yet?
Is Drone Scanner not fully active???
Anybody have any current info on this topic?

Update.... I got the app to work.

It is working all too well! It spotted my drone doing a hyperlapse, it gave me Serial Number, Mac. Address
Signal Strength, First seen (20 sec ago), Last seen, Messages (4) ... unsure of what that means, Distance from App user, Altitude, Horizontal speed.
I then tapped on 'Follow aircraft' and it showed on a map the drone's position, direction (heading) just like the DJI RC controller map, and gave a distance count down until landing stating the drone is 3 meters away! Kinda' Scarry.
App was not working yesterday, but 'mobilehomer' mentioned there may be a switch to turn scanning on,
so I poked around 3 different pages in 'settings' (blindly) and turned on anything that looked related.
Maybe I triggered something but I am TOTALLY ON THE RADAR NOW!
The settings I tinkered with were in the app.... not the controller.
Unsure of what I did, but the Drone Scanner by Dronetag is doing what it claims it would.
So, anyone scanning my drone would be able to track me down within a couple of meters
of my launch / landing spot. Even if I relocated after launch, they can follow the map
and follow that blue line to my landing location.
All info on the phone app was easy to read and understand by whoever would use the app.
One good thing is says "UNKNOWN OPERATOR" but my serial number was correct.
I also clicked on 'Export Data" was able to email ALL INFO collected by the app....
Copied and Pasted below for you to see (Mac address and Serial number altered for my privacy)


mac address
60:60:1f:17
Location Message,MessageSource.WifiBeacon
status,heightType,direction,speedHori,speedVert,droneLat,droneLon,altitudePressure,altitudeGeodetic,height,horizontalAccuracy,verticalAccuracy,baroAccuracy,speedAccuracy,timestamp,timeAccuracy
AircraftStatus.Airborne,HeightType.Takeoff,361.0,0.0,0.0,33.575012199999996,-117.72602839999999,-1000.0,164.0,63.5,HorizontalAccuracy.meters_10,VerticalAccuracy.meters_25,VerticalAccuracy.Unknown,SpeedAccuracy.Unknown,1969-12-31 16:00:02.712,1.0
BasicId Message,MessageSource.WifiBeacon
idType,uaType,uasId
IdType.Serial_Number,UaType.Helicopter_or_Multirotor,1581F67PB2298
System Data Message,MessageSource.WifiBeacon
operatorLocationType,classificationType,operatorLatitude,operatorLongitude,areaCount,areaRadius,areaCeiling,areaFloor,category,classValue,operatorAltitudeGeo,systemTimestamp
OperatorLocationType.LiveGNSS,ClassificationType.Undeclared,33.5716477,-117.728279,1,0,-1000.0,-1000.0,AircraftCategory.Undeclared,AircraftClass.Undeclared,102.5,2023-06-18 14:04:33.174
mac address
60:60:1f:17:b0:99
Location Message,MessageSource.WifiBeacon
status,heightType,direction,speedHori,speedVert,droneLat,droneLon,altitudePressure,altitudeGeodetic,height,horizontalAccuracy,verticalAccuracy,baroAccuracy,speedAccuracy,timestamp,timeAccuracy
AircraftStatus.Airborne,HeightType.Takeoff,361.0,0.0,0.0,33.575012199999996,-117.72602839999999,-1000.0,164.0,63.5,HorizontalAccuracy.meters_10,VerticalAccuracy.meters_25,VerticalAccuracy.Unknown,SpeedAccuracy.Unknown,1969-12-31 16:00:02.712,1.0
BasicId Message,MessageSource.WifiBeacon
idType,uaType,uasId
IdType.Serial_Number,UaType.Helicopter_or_Multirotor,1581F67PB22
System Data Message,MessageSource.WifiBeacon
operatorLocationType,classificationType,operatorLatitude,operatorLongitude,areaCount,areaRadius,areaCeiling,areaFloor,category,classValue,operatorAltitudeGeo,systemTimestamp
OperatorLocationType.LiveGNSS,ClassificationType.Undeclared,33.5716477,-117.728279,1,0,-1000.0,-1000.0,AircraftCategory.Undeclared,AircraftClass.Undeclared,102.5,2023-06-18 14:04:33.174
mac address
60:60:1f:17:b0:99
Location Message,MessageSource.WifiBeacon
status,heightType,direction,speedHori,speedVert,droneLat,droneLon,altitudePressure,altitudeGeodetic,height,horizontalAccuracy,verticalAccuracy,baroAccuracy,speedAccuracy,timestamp,timeAccuracy
AircraftStatus.Airborne,HeightType.Takeoff,361.0,0.0,0.0,33.571659,-117.72825619999999,-1000.0,102.0,2.0,HorizontalAccuracy.meters_10,VerticalAccuracy.meters_25,VerticalAccuracy.Unknown,SpeedAccuracy.Unknown,1969-12-31 16:00:04.011,1.0
BasicId Message,MessageSource.WifiBeacon
idType,uaType,uasId
IdType.Serial_Number,UaType.Helicopter_or_Multirotor,1581F67PB229
System Data Message,MessageSource.WifiBeacon
operatorLocationType,classificationType,operatorLatitude,operatorLongitude,areaCount,areaRadius,areaCeiling,areaFloor,category,classValue,operatorAltitudeGeo,systemTimestamp
OperatorLocationType.LiveGNSS,ClassificationType.Undeclared,33.571637599999995,-117.7282786,1,0,-1000.0,-1000.0,AircraftCategory.Undeclared,AircraftClass.Undeclared,103.0,2023-06-18 14:06:42.971
mac address
60:60:1f:17:b0:99
Location Message,MessageSource.WifiBeacon
status,heightType,direction,speedHori,speedVert,droneLat,droneLon,altitudePressure,altitudeGeodetic,height,horizontalAccuracy,verticalAccuracy,baroAccuracy,speedAccuracy,timestamp,timeAccuracy
AircraftStatus.Airborne,HeightType.Takeoff,361.0,0.0,0.0,33.571659,-117.72825619999999,-1000.0,102.0,2.0,HorizontalAccuracy.meters_10,VerticalAccuracy.meters_25,VerticalAccuracy.Unknown,SpeedAccuracy.Unknown,1969-12-31 16:00:04.011,1.0
BasicId Message,MessageSource.WifiBeacon
idType,uaType,uasId
IdType.Serial_Number,UaType.Helicopter_or_Multirotor,1581F67PB2298001011H
System Data Message,MessageSource.WifiBeacon
operatorLocationType,classificationType,operatorLatitude,operatorLongitude,areaCount,areaRadius,areaCeiling,areaFloor,category,classValue,operatorAltitudeGeo,systemTimestamp
OperatorLocationType.LiveGNSS,ClassificationType.Undeclared,33.571637599999995,-117.7282786,1,0,-1000.0,-1000.0,AircraftCategory.Undeclared,AircraftClass.Undeclared,103.0,2023-06-18 14:06:42.971

 

[Reid937]

I get the same results with a Mavic 3 Cine.

BTW: I am running it on Android.

Update: Drone Scanner works for me with a Samsung S22 Ultra but not a Samsung S23 Ultra.

 

[mavic3usa]

You will need to search the internet for clues. Apparently there is some incompatibility with the app and IOS at some level; not exactly sure.

 

[michaeldallen1]

I get the same results with a Mavic 3 Cine.

BTW: I am running it on Android.

Glad to hear I'm not the only one. I'm on Android too.
I just noticed another thread on this topic started back in April.
I looked for one before I started a new one..... sorry guys.
It seems non of the apps are seeing drones at this time.

 

[mobilehomer]

I don't remember where, but there is a scanning switch in the phone settings rhat needs enabling.
Found it. Post #95

Bad news to everyone, RID was already active in 01.00.0800 firmware and the drone appears in OpenDroneID app.

Is there anything I can help you with? No, thank you. I was just curious. But Mavic 3 has been broadcasting RID since the end of May in the EU. And this is very interesting.

mavicpilots.com

 

[Spartan Drones]

I don't remember where, but there is a scanning switch in the phone settings rhat needs enabling.
Found it. Post #95

Bad news to everyone, RID was already active in 01.00.0800 firmware and the drone appears in OpenDroneID app.

Is there anything I can help you with? No, thank you. I was just curious. But Mavic 3 has been broadcasting RID since the end of May in the EU. And this is very interesting.

mavicpilots.com

Any idea where the setting is? I’ve looked everywhere on the iPhone and didn’t find anything. Thanks in advance

 

[1TenaciousG]

It's June 17th and I just downloaded Dronetag's DRONE SCANNER app.
My Mavic 3 Classic is RID compliant, but it doesn't show up on the app.
Drone Scanner says it has scanned for Blue Tooth AND Wi-Fi- and says
that there are "0" ZERO drones around.
I see the the GPS map on the app is accurate.... I see my location dead center on screen.
My drone is 50 feet away and 80 feet AGL.... but not recognized.
Are the drones not transmitting RID signals yet?
Is Drone Scanner not fully active???
Anybody have any current info on this topic?

I haven't tried this App yet, but, I downloaded the Sentinel Application, and, so far, it seems to have the same issue.
It doesn't detect my Mavic 3 Classic (or, any other Drones, apparently).

 

[Arnold LeVine]

I tried drone scanner on my Google Pixel3. (in case phone model matters)
Turned on drone (Mavic3) - got nothing. Took off-voila! there it was, but not all the info I expected. Flew 50 ft away,-nothing again.

 

[shawgod]

Go to this link: Remote ID. This was discussed on the DJI forum, maybe this will help you?

 

[michaeldallen1]

I tried drone scanner on my Google Pixel3. (in case phone model matters)
Turned on drone (Mavic3) - got nothing. Took off-voila! there it was, but not all the info I expected. Flew 50 ft away,-nothing again.

That's helpful info. I'll try flying closer. I'm on Samsung S21 Ultra (maybe phone model DOES matter at this time).

It's June 17th and I just downloaded Dronetag's DRONE SCANNER app.
My Mavic 3 Classic is RID compliant, but it doesn't show up on the app.
Drone Scanner says it has scanned for Blue Tooth AND Wi-Fi- and says
that there are "0" ZERO drones around.
I see the the GPS map on the app is accurate.... I see my location dead center on screen.
My drone is 50 feet away and 80 feet AGL.... but not recognized.
Are the drones not transmitting RID signals yet?
Is Drone Scanner not fully active???
Anybody have any current info on this topic?

Sunday June 18th DRONE SCANNER IS WORKING!!

It is working all too well! It spotted my drone doing a hyperlapse, it gave me Serial Number, Mac. Address
Signal Strength, First seen (20 sec ago), Last seen, Messages (4) ... unsure of what that means, Distance from App user, Altitude, Horizontal speed.
I then tapped on 'Follow aircraft' and it showed on a map the drone's position, direction (heading) just like the DJI RC controller map, and gave a distance count down until landing stating the drone is 3 meters away! Kinda' Scarry.
App was not working yesterday, but 'mobilehomer' mentioned there may be a switch to turn scanning on,
so I poked around 3 different pages in 'settings' (blindly) and turned on anything that looked related.
Maybe I triggered something but I am TOTALLY ON THE RADAR NOW!
The settings I tinkered with were in the app.... not the controller.
Unsure of what I did, but the Drone Scanner by Dronetag is doing what it claims it would.
So, anyone scanning my drone would be able to track me down within a couple of meters
of my launch / landing spot. Even if I relocated after launch, they can follow the map
and follow that blue line to my landing location.
All info on the phone app was easy to read and understand by whoever would use the app.
One good thing is says "UNKNOWN OPERATOR" but my serial number was correct.
I also clicked on 'Export Data" was able to email ALL INFO collected by the app....
Copied and Pasted below for you to see (Mac address and Serial number altered for my privacy)


mac address
60:60:1f:17
Location Message,MessageSource.WifiBeacon
status,heightType,direction,speedHori,speedVert,droneLat,droneLon,altitudePressure,altitudeGeodetic,height,horizontalAccuracy,verticalAccuracy,baroAccuracy,speedAccuracy,timestamp,timeAccuracy
AircraftStatus.Airborne,HeightType.Takeoff,361.0,0.0,0.0,33.575012199999996,-117.72602839999999,-1000.0,164.0,63.5,HorizontalAccuracy.meters_10,VerticalAccuracy.meters_25,VerticalAccuracy.Unknown,SpeedAccuracy.Unknown,1969-12-31 16:00:02.712,1.0
BasicId Message,MessageSource.WifiBeacon
idType,uaType,uasId
IdType.Serial_Number,UaType.Helicopter_or_Multirotor,1581F67PB2298
System Data Message,MessageSource.WifiBeacon
operatorLocationType,classificationType,operatorLatitude,operatorLongitude,areaCount,areaRadius,areaCeiling,areaFloor,category,classValue,operatorAltitudeGeo,systemTimestamp
OperatorLocationType.LiveGNSS,ClassificationType.Undeclared,33.5716477,-117.728279,1,0,-1000.0,-1000.0,AircraftCategory.Undeclared,AircraftClass.Undeclared,102.5,2023-06-18 14:04:33.174
mac address
60:60:1f:17:b0:99
Location Message,MessageSource.WifiBeacon
status,heightType,direction,speedHori,speedVert,droneLat,droneLon,altitudePressure,altitudeGeodetic,height,horizontalAccuracy,verticalAccuracy,baroAccuracy,speedAccuracy,timestamp,timeAccuracy
AircraftStatus.Airborne,HeightType.Takeoff,361.0,0.0,0.0,33.575012199999996,-117.72602839999999,-1000.0,164.0,63.5,HorizontalAccuracy.meters_10,VerticalAccuracy.meters_25,VerticalAccuracy.Unknown,SpeedAccuracy.Unknown,1969-12-31 16:00:02.712,1.0
BasicId Message,MessageSource.WifiBeacon
idType,uaType,uasId
IdType.Serial_Number,UaType.Helicopter_or_Multirotor,1581F67PB22
System Data Message,MessageSource.WifiBeacon
operatorLocationType,classificationType,operatorLatitude,operatorLongitude,areaCount,areaRadius,areaCeiling,areaFloor,category,classValue,operatorAltitudeGeo,systemTimestamp
OperatorLocationType.LiveGNSS,ClassificationType.Undeclared,33.5716477,-117.728279,1,0,-1000.0,-1000.0,AircraftCategory.Undeclared,AircraftClass.Undeclared,102.5,2023-06-18 14:04:33.174
mac address
60:60:1f:17:b0:99
Location Message,MessageSource.WifiBeacon
status,heightType,direction,speedHori,speedVert,droneLat,droneLon,altitudePressure,altitudeGeodetic,height,horizontalAccuracy,verticalAccuracy,baroAccuracy,speedAccuracy,timestamp,timeAccuracy
AircraftStatus.Airborne,HeightType.Takeoff,361.0,0.0,0.0,33.571659,-117.72825619999999,-1000.0,102.0,2.0,HorizontalAccuracy.meters_10,VerticalAccuracy.meters_25,VerticalAccuracy.Unknown,SpeedAccuracy.Unknown,1969-12-31 16:00:04.011,1.0
BasicId Message,MessageSource.WifiBeacon
idType,uaType,uasId
IdType.Serial_Number,UaType.Helicopter_or_Multirotor,1581F67PB229
System Data Message,MessageSource.WifiBeacon
operatorLocationType,classificationType,operatorLatitude,operatorLongitude,areaCount,areaRadius,areaCeiling,areaFloor,category,classValue,operatorAltitudeGeo,systemTimestamp
OperatorLocationType.LiveGNSS,ClassificationType.Undeclared,33.571637599999995,-117.7282786,1,0,-1000.0,-1000.0,AircraftCategory.Undeclared,AircraftClass.Undeclared,103.0,2023-06-18 14:06:42.971
mac address
60:60:1f:17:b0:99
Location Message,MessageSource.WifiBeacon
status,heightType,direction,speedHori,speedVert,droneLat,droneLon,altitudePressure,altitudeGeodetic,height,horizontalAccuracy,verticalAccuracy,baroAccuracy,speedAccuracy,timestamp,timeAccuracy
AircraftStatus.Airborne,HeightType.Takeoff,361.0,0.0,0.0,33.571659,-117.72825619999999,-1000.0,102.0,2.0,HorizontalAccuracy.meters_10,VerticalAccuracy.meters_25,VerticalAccuracy.Unknown,SpeedAccuracy.Unknown,1969-12-31 16:00:04.011,1.0
BasicId Message,MessageSource.WifiBeacon
idType,uaType,uasId
IdType.Serial_Number,UaType.Helicopter_or_Multirotor,1581F67PB2298001011H
System Data Message,MessageSource.WifiBeacon
operatorLocationType,classificationType,operatorLatitude,operatorLongitude,areaCount,areaRadius,areaCeiling,areaFloor,category,classValue,operatorAltitudeGeo,systemTimestamp
OperatorLocationType.LiveGNSS,ClassificationType.Undeclared,33.571637599999995,-117.7282786,1,0,-1000.0,-1000.0,AircraftCategory.Undeclared,AircraftClass.Undeclared,103.0,2023-06-18 14:06:42.971

 

[Carsco]

Drone Scanner will works with Mavic Air?

 

[michaeldallen1]

Drone Scanner will works with Mavic Air?

From what I just looked up, the mavic air is not Remote ID compliant.... so, no, it is not sending a signal for Drone Scanner to see / read.

 

[FlySkyJumper]

It's June 17th and I just downloaded Dronetag's DRONE SCANNER app.
My Mavic 3 Classic is RID compliant, but it doesn't show up on the app.
Drone Scanner says it has scanned for Blue Tooth AND Wi-Fi- and says
that there are "0" ZERO drones around.
I see the the GPS map on the app is accurate.... I see my location dead center on screen.
My drone is 50 feet away and 80 feet AGL.... but not recognized.
Are the drones not transmitting RID signals yet?
Is Drone Scanner not fully active???
Anybody have any current info on this topic?

Update.... I got the app to work.

It is working all too well! It spotted my drone doing a hyperlapse, it gave me Serial Number, Mac. Address
Signal Strength, First seen (20 sec ago), Last seen, Messages (4) ... unsure of what that means, Distance from App user, Altitude, Horizontal speed.
I then tapped on 'Follow aircraft' and it showed on a map the drone's position, direction (heading) just like the DJI RC controller map, and gave a distance count down until landing stating the drone is 3 meters away! Kinda' Scarry.
App was not working yesterday, but 'mobilehomer' mentioned there may be a switch to turn scanning on,
so I poked around 3 different pages in 'settings' (blindly) and turned on anything that looked related.
Maybe I triggered something but I am TOTALLY ON THE RADAR NOW!
The settings I tinkered with were in the app.... not the controller.
Unsure of what I did, but the Drone Scanner by Dronetag is doing what it claims it would.
So, anyone scanning my drone would be able to track me down within a couple of meters
of my launch / landing spot. Even if I relocated after launch, they can follow the map
and follow that blue line to my landing location.
All info on the phone app was easy to read and understand by whoever would use the app.
One good thing is says "UNKNOWN OPERATOR" but my serial number was correct.
I also clicked on 'Export Data" was able to email ALL INFO collected by the app....
Copied and Pasted below for you to see (Mac address and Serial number altered for my privacy)


mac address
60:60:1f:17
Location Message,MessageSource.WifiBeacon
status,heightType,direction,speedHori,speedVert,droneLat,droneLon,altitudePressure,altitudeGeodetic,height,horizontalAccuracy,verticalAccuracy,baroAccuracy,speedAccuracy,timestamp,timeAccuracy
AircraftStatus.Airborne,HeightType.Takeoff,361.0,0.0,0.0,33.575012199999996,-117.72602839999999,-1000.0,164.0,63.5,HorizontalAccuracy.meters_10,VerticalAccuracy.meters_25,VerticalAccuracy.Unknown,SpeedAccuracy.Unknown,1969-12-31 16:00:02.712,1.0
BasicId Message,MessageSource.WifiBeacon
idType,uaType,uasId
IdType.Serial_Number,UaType.Helicopter_or_Multirotor,1581F67PB2298
System Data Message,MessageSource.WifiBeacon
operatorLocationType,classificationType,operatorLatitude,operatorLongitude,areaCount,areaRadius,areaCeiling,areaFloor,category,classValue,operatorAltitudeGeo,systemTimestamp
OperatorLocationType.LiveGNSS,ClassificationType.Undeclared,33.5716477,-117.728279,1,0,-1000.0,-1000.0,AircraftCategory.Undeclared,AircraftClass.Undeclared,102.5,2023-06-18 14:04:33.174
mac address
60:60:1f:17:b0:99
Location Message,MessageSource.WifiBeacon
status,heightType,direction,speedHori,speedVert,droneLat,droneLon,altitudePressure,altitudeGeodetic,height,horizontalAccuracy,verticalAccuracy,baroAccuracy,speedAccuracy,timestamp,timeAccuracy
AircraftStatus.Airborne,HeightType.Takeoff,361.0,0.0,0.0,33.575012199999996,-117.72602839999999,-1000.0,164.0,63.5,HorizontalAccuracy.meters_10,VerticalAccuracy.meters_25,VerticalAccuracy.Unknown,SpeedAccuracy.Unknown,1969-12-31 16:00:02.712,1.0
BasicId Message,MessageSource.WifiBeacon
idType,uaType,uasId
IdType.Serial_Number,UaType.Helicopter_or_Multirotor,1581F67PB22
System Data Message,MessageSource.WifiBeacon
operatorLocationType,classificationType,operatorLatitude,operatorLongitude,areaCount,areaRadius,areaCeiling,areaFloor,category,classValue,operatorAltitudeGeo,systemTimestamp
OperatorLocationType.LiveGNSS,ClassificationType.Undeclared,33.5716477,-117.728279,1,0,-1000.0,-1000.0,AircraftCategory.Undeclared,AircraftClass.Undeclared,102.5,2023-06-18 14:04:33.174
mac address
60:60:1f:17:b0:99
Location Message,MessageSource.WifiBeacon
status,heightType,direction,speedHori,speedVert,droneLat,droneLon,altitudePressure,altitudeGeodetic,height,horizontalAccuracy,verticalAccuracy,baroAccuracy,speedAccuracy,timestamp,timeAccuracy
AircraftStatus.Airborne,HeightType.Takeoff,361.0,0.0,0.0,33.571659,-117.72825619999999,-1000.0,102.0,2.0,HorizontalAccuracy.meters_10,VerticalAccuracy.meters_25,VerticalAccuracy.Unknown,SpeedAccuracy.Unknown,1969-12-31 16:00:04.011,1.0
BasicId Message,MessageSource.WifiBeacon
idType,uaType,uasId
IdType.Serial_Number,UaType.Helicopter_or_Multirotor,1581F67PB229
System Data Message,MessageSource.WifiBeacon
operatorLocationType,classificationType,operatorLatitude,operatorLongitude,areaCount,areaRadius,areaCeiling,areaFloor,category,classValue,operatorAltitudeGeo,systemTimestamp
OperatorLocationType.LiveGNSS,ClassificationType.Undeclared,33.571637599999995,-117.7282786,1,0,-1000.0,-1000.0,AircraftCategory.Undeclared,AircraftClass.Undeclared,103.0,2023-06-18 14:06:42.971
mac address
60:60:1f:17:b0:99
Location Message,MessageSource.WifiBeacon
status,heightType,direction,speedHori,speedVert,droneLat,droneLon,altitudePressure,altitudeGeodetic,height,horizontalAccuracy,verticalAccuracy,baroAccuracy,speedAccuracy,timestamp,timeAccuracy
AircraftStatus.Airborne,HeightType.Takeoff,361.0,0.0,0.0,33.571659,-117.72825619999999,-1000.0,102.0,2.0,HorizontalAccuracy.meters_10,VerticalAccuracy.meters_25,VerticalAccuracy.Unknown,SpeedAccuracy.Unknown,1969-12-31 16:00:04.011,1.0
BasicId Message,MessageSource.WifiBeacon
idType,uaType,uasId
IdType.Serial_Number,UaType.Helicopter_or_Multirotor,1581F67PB2298001011H
System Data Message,MessageSource.WifiBeacon
operatorLocationType,classificationType,operatorLatitude,operatorLongitude,areaCount,areaRadius,areaCeiling,areaFloor,category,classValue,operatorAltitudeGeo,systemTimestamp
OperatorLocationType.LiveGNSS,ClassificationType.Undeclared,33.571637599999995,-117.7282786,1,0,-1000.0,-1000.0,AircraftCategory.Undeclared,AircraftClass.Undeclared,103.0,2023-06-18 14:06:42.971

Yeah it's a long standing myth understanding/myth that has been spread in reguards to people knowing OUR NAMES/ADDRESSES ETC.

To put some fears and myths to rest:

Yes, IF our drones are registered with the FAA (which is the law if over 249 grams) people can see our drones registration number, trajectory all that jazz. However, by law your name, your address etc., will never be revealed to the general public.

The law does need some smoothing over of course. I to do not like that the general public can see where I take off or land.

However, keep in mind this really is no different than our cars license plate. Sure we can see the plates number, the cars description (make, color, etc) and even the direction they are driving. Heck, people can follow us all day long if they wanted. Still unless you're the police or DMV, or other authorized agent you CANNOT find out a person's identity.

However, nobody can identify who you are outside of law enforcement, the FAA and other proper authorities.

Also, for action to be taken against a drone operator there has to be solid evidence to present to the proper authorities.

It's also important to remember that it's a federal crime for a person to harras a drone operator in any way. So make sure you cover your *** by keeping a recorder or recording app on your phone so you can press the button as soon as you see someone approaching you do you have PROOF of what was and was not said.

Finally, KNOW THE REGULATIONS. CONTINUALLY FURTHER YOUR EDUCATION. This will serve you well. It can be your biggest defense, to know the laws. This shows the law you're not someone who is negligent in their duty to learn the laws. Being naive is not an exscuse or a defense to the police or to the courts.

The required TRUST certificate you're required to obtain before operating a drone in the United States is simply NOT near enough.I took the test in under 10 minutes and passed. It's a laughable certificate and does not make one qualified to fly. Most people don't even take the time to familiarize themselves with the laws or their drone by reading the owners manual. (which is also required by law one does.) Most people do not even bother with arming themselves with information from legitimate sources.


Back to the topic though ---->
If you're flying legally, you have nothing to worry about. Our drones signals have always been visible and broadcasting to legal authority. Even If you think it's not. (it's just like the whole concept of people thinking our cellphones don't listen in on us when no apps are open...wrong, we are constantly being monitored. If you're not being stupid, you have nothing to worry about.
. Further more it could be worse ..You can track airliners and who they belong to any time of the day. If you're not "somebody"( rich or famous) you have nothing to worry about.

The fear mongering about this topic simply comes from misunderstanding. Yes, can the law be refinwd, yes as there are some concerns , but will it change anything? No, in fact in many ways I'm surprised this law has not been effect much sooner. There is some good that comes from it. The FAR's are constantly being changed and improved by the FAA

So people, relax and just enjoy. This isn't a bad thing per say. You're still protected. Fly smart and ve smart. There are millions of drone operators out there. The likely hood of YOU being singled out is pretty much niel and void.


.Oh one more thing in order for these third party apps to work they rely on Wifi and Bluetooth. The range is not very long, so yes that person has to be pretty dang close for it to be able to even pick up your controllers and drones location.

If anyone wants to learn more READ THE ACTUAL REGS FROM THE SOURCE, IN THIS CASE THE FAA. It isn't hard to read or understand.

Good luck every one and breath if you're one who is so afraid of your RFID being made available to anyone. If an airlines location and name attached to it, then why not drones. This was inevitable and legal. Im fact I would argue if you're so paranoid, then you're likely one of those who is breaking the law with your drone flights.

Happy droning!

 

[FlySkyJumper]

I tried drone scanner on my Google Pixel3. (in case phone model matters)
Turned on drone (Mavic3) - got nothing. Took off-voila! there it was, but not all the info I expected. Flew 50 ft away,-nothing again.

Phone model doesn't matter. If you can download the app from the app store, it will work.

 

[mavic3usa]

Yeah it's a long standing myth understanding/myth that has been spread in reguards to people knowing OUR NAMES/ADDRESSES ETC.

To put some fears and myths to rest:

Yes, IF our drones are registered with the FAA (which is the law if over 249 grams) people can see our drones registration number, trajectory all that jazz. However, by law your name, your address etc., will never be revealed to the general public.

The law does need some smoothing over of course. I to do not like that the general public can see where I take off or land.

However, keep in mind this really is no different than our cars license plate. Sure we can see the plates number, the cars description (make, color, etc) and even the direction they are driving. Heck, people can follow us all day long if they wanted. Still unless you're the police or DMV, or other authorized agent you CANNOT find out a person's identity.

However, nobody can identify who you are outside of law enforcement, the FAA and other proper authorities.

Also, for action to be taken against a drone operator there has to be solid evidence to present to the proper authorities.

It's also important to remember that it's a federal crime for a person to harras a drone operator in any way. So make sure you cover your *** by keeping a recorder or recording app on your phone so you can press the button as soon as you see someone approaching you do you have PROOF of what was and was not said.

Finally, KNOW THE REGULATIONS. CONTINUALLY FURTHER YOUR EDUCATION. This will serve you well. It can be your biggest defense, to know the laws. This shows the law you're not someone who is negligent in their duty to learn the laws. Being naive is not an exscuse or a defense to the police or to the courts.

The required TRUST certificate you're required to obtain before operating a drone in the United States is simply NOT near enough.I took the test in under 10 minutes and passed. It's a laughable certificate and does not make one qualified to fly. Most people don't even take the time to familiarize themselves with the laws or their drone by reading the owners manual. (which is also required by law one does.) Most people do not even bother with arming themselves with information from legitimate sources.


Back to the topic though ---->
If you're flying legally, you have nothing to worry about. Our drones signals have always been visible and broadcasting to legal authority. Even If you think it's not. (it's just like the whole concept of people thinking our cellphones don't listen in on us when no apps are open...wrong, we are constantly being monitored. If you're not being stupid, you have nothing to worry about.
. Further more it could be worse ..You can track airliners and who they belong to any time of the day. If you're not "somebody"( rich or famous) you have nothing to worry about.

The fear mongering about this topic simply comes from misunderstanding. Yes, can the law be refinwd, yes as there are some concerns , but will it change anything? No, in fact in many ways I'm surprised this law has not been effect much sooner. There is some good that comes from it. The FAR's are constantly being changed and improved by the FAA

So people, relax and just enjoy. This isn't a bad thing per say. You're still protected. Fly smart and ve smart. There are millions of drone operators out there. The likely hood of YOU being singled out is pretty much niel and void.


.Oh one more thing in order for these third party apps to work they rely on Wifi and Bluetooth. The range is not very long, so yes that person has to be pretty dang close for it to be able to even pick up your controllers and drones location.

If anyone wants to learn more READ THE ACTUAL REGS FROM THE SOURCE, IN THIS CASE THE FAA. It isn't hard to read or understand.

Good luck every one and breath if you're one who is so afraid of your RFID being made available to anyone. If an airlines location and name attached to it, then why not drones. This was inevitable and legal. Im fact I would argue if you're so paranoid, then you're likely one of those who is breaking the law with your drone flights.

Happy droning!

So let's see if I understand this correctly:

1.When you drive your car to the neighborhood grocery store and someone else in the parking sees your parked car, they not only can see the license plate but also can they see where you live? If you fly from home and your drone is over that grocery store, the public can see your drone at the store AND see you standing in your backyard, right? That's just like a license plate, huh. Do I have the option to block my location when I'm at home?

2.Does your license plate also contain a history of where that car has been and the history of it's travel? My understanding is this type of information is also available with RID. Am I incorrect?

3.What will stop someone from creating a database that will link names and addresses to drone details? Is there a law against someone doing it and making it available to the public? I know the FAA doesn't order it but do they prohibit it? If they don't make a law against it then it will be done. Like your license plate date, steps have to be taken to protect data else it's wide open and there's no value to claiming "it's currently unavailable."

4.No one has ever been prosecuted for "clashing" with a drone pilot under federal law. Never will. From that perspective, it's almost as it is doesn't exist. It's not a crime if no one is ever prosecuted for it. That law won't be the one protecting us; drone flyers will need to look to other laws to protect them.

5.Knowing the laws and the rules/regulations is important....for both sides, the drone pilot and law enforcement. Since you are so big on laws, can you point to a valid state law or a local ordinance that permits an trooper, officer, or deputy to demand a drone license, registration, and/or trust certificate? When you are driving and you get pulled over, it's clearly spelled out in the law what you need to provide. Can you point to the similar law that gives non-federal law enforcement these powers? I understand the FAA has granted new powers to local law enforcement but that's another debate.

6.The TRUST test is too easy, why? Honestly there's shouldn't be a test to recreate; there isn't a test to throw the football or swing the golf club or swim across the lake. But we agree the drone flyers should know the rules so the best way to do that is TRUST as long as it isn't used as a qualifier to prevent or hinder based on how hard the test or how much it costs. TRUST is spot on IMO.

Drone flyers need to band together and speak with one voice; we are all on the same side even though it may not sound like it sometimes. I don't hate RID but I know if you don't push back, it gets worse. You must always redress your government. There are alarmists on both sides but what is worse is perpetuating the idea that as long as you're not doing bad things, don't worry just let it happen. No offense, but to me that's not the true definition of freedom.

 

[FlySkyJumper]

Well, you have your "opinion" I have mine. I'm a commercial pilot and fly real planes. I also fly drones when I'm on the ground.

You can read the rules and play by them OR, not. Up to you.

Read from the source though. It's not as scary as you think.

 

[mavic3usa]

Well, you have your "opinion" I have mine. I'm a commercial pilot and fly real planes. I also fly drones when I'm on the ground.

You can read the rules and play by them OR, not. Up to you.

Read from the source though. It's not as scary as you think.

Cool, no problem. Anyone else have any answers to the issues that are currently being discussed and debated in the drone community regarding RID?

 

[Torque]

Yeah it's a long standing myth understanding/myth that has been spread in reguards to people knowing OUR NAMES/ADDRESSES ETC.

To put some fears and myths to rest:

Yes, IF our drones are registered with the FAA (which is the law if over 249 grams) people can see our drones registration number, trajectory all that jazz. However, by law your name, your address etc., will never be revealed to the general public.

The law does need some smoothing over of course. I to do not like that the general public can see where I take off or land.

However, keep in mind this really is no different than our cars license plate. Sure we can see the plates number, the cars description (make, color, etc) and even the direction they are driving. Heck, people can follow us all day long if they wanted. Still unless you're the police or DMV, or other authorized agent you CANNOT find out a person's identity.

However, nobody can identify who you are outside of law enforcement, the FAA and other proper authorities.

Also, for action to be taken against a drone operator there has to be solid evidence to present to the proper authorities.

It's also important to remember that it's a federal crime for a person to harras a drone operator in any way. So make sure you cover your *** by keeping a recorder or recording app on your phone so you can press the button as soon as you see someone approaching you do you have PROOF of what was and was not said.

Finally, KNOW THE REGULATIONS. CONTINUALLY FURTHER YOUR EDUCATION. This will serve you well. It can be your biggest defense, to know the laws. This shows the law you're not someone who is negligent in their duty to learn the laws. Being naive is not an exscuse or a defense to the police or to the courts.

The required TRUST certificate you're required to obtain before operating a drone in the United States is simply NOT near enough.I took the test in under 10 minutes and passed. It's a laughable certificate and does not make one qualified to fly. Most people don't even take the time to familiarize themselves with the laws or their drone by reading the owners manual. (which is also required by law one does.) Most people do not even bother with arming themselves with information from legitimate sources.


Back to the topic though ---->
If you're flying legally, you have nothing to worry about. Our drones signals have always been visible and broadcasting to legal authority. Even If you think it's not. (it's just like the whole concept of people thinking our cellphones don't listen in on us when no apps are open...wrong, we are constantly being monitored. If you're not being stupid, you have nothing to worry about.
. Further more it could be worse ..You can track airliners and who they belong to any time of the day. If you're not "somebody"( rich or famous) you have nothing to worry about.

The fear mongering about this topic simply comes from misunderstanding. Yes, can the law be refinwd, yes as there are some concerns , but will it change anything? No, in fact in many ways I'm surprised this law has not been effect much sooner. There is some good that comes from it. The FAR's are constantly being changed and improved by the FAA

So people, relax and just enjoy. This isn't a bad thing per say. You're still protected. Fly smart and ve smart. There are millions of drone operators out there. The likely hood of YOU being singled out is pretty much niel and void.


.Oh one more thing in order for these third party apps to work they rely on Wifi and Bluetooth. The range is not very long, so yes that person has to be pretty dang close for it to be able to even pick up your controllers and drones location.

If anyone wants to learn more READ THE ACTUAL REGS FROM THE SOURCE, IN THIS CASE THE FAA. It isn't hard to read or understand.

Good luck every one and breath if you're one who is so afraid of your RFID being made available to anyone. If an airlines location and name attached to it, then why not drones. This was inevitable and legal. Im fact I would argue if you're so paranoid, then you're likely one of those who is breaking the law with your drone flights.

Happy droning!

Do you have a link to your information source?

 

[lookout]

You will need to search the internet for clues. Apparently there is some incompatibility with the app and IOS at some level; not exactly sure.

Apples have to have this agreement for anything to work with apple. Good luck with apple users finding you.

 

[lookout]

Phone model doesn't matter. If you can download the app from the app store, it will work.

Um...some phones have better capability than others. Some can only pick up wifi, others bluetooth.