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Hi All,

Thanks to those that previously provided feedback on my Jetty image - as mentioned I'm new to image editing and the feedback provided has been invaluable. As a result I'm hoping to get some more on the below.

I have included the original and the edited.

Thanks,
Ben
 

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Hi All,

Thanks to those that previously provided feedback on my Jetty image - as mentioned I'm new to image editing and the feedback provided has been invaluable. As a result I'm hoping to get some more on the below.

I have included the original and the edited.

Thanks,
Ben

I think its great that you are so invested in being a better photographer and I think there are a lot of people on this forum who can share their expertise. I also commend you for being brave hah I don't know that I could be so open and willing to be critiqued by random people on the web. It takes some balls and I wish I could do that so easily.

This image doesn't do nearly as much for me as the last one. More than editing I would focus on composition and developing an artistic eye.

This isn't something that I find comes naturally to me. I really have to work at it and maintain it. When I feel I really need to jump start my creative eye I will take my school black and white film camera and load enough film for 5 shots. Now why this is important is it takes a lot of work to develop film and then make them into prints so I have to be extremely selective about what 5 shots I am going to take. I find with me that if I use a digital camera for too long I start to just take pictures willy nilly because they can easily be erased and my SD card holds enough pictures for me to keep snapping away till the cows come home and I don't put as much thought into the framing and exposure.

Check out this article about composition techniques. This is always chapter 1 in any photography class. Consider these techniques as the photographers bible. When you take photos make sure you are using one of these techniques and I guarantee you will increase the quality of your shots.

For me you missed an opportunity in this shot. The bench that's to the left of your barn, I would have flown to just right behind that bench so your viewer would envision themself sitting on the bench gazing out onto the scene. In your comp, as a viewer I am confused by what the subject of the shot should be. I don't know if I should be looking out onto the water or if I should be looking at the barn. When your viewer looks at your photo it is important they know immediately what your subject is. editing techniques can help with this but it should really be programmed into the comp.

DJI_0216.jpg

I really didn't do anything with the composition on this one but I did purposely leave the space in front of the barn which helps me to understand the space in the frame better than having it cut off. I used a graduated filter from the top down to the grass line. This allowed me to gradually darken the sky but have it still look natural. I also used the same graduated filter from the bottom left corner to ther roof of your barn. This helps the viewer know the subject is in the upper right half of the frame, then the lines from the roof should further direct them to the shoreline. I used a tad of vignette to further direct the viewers eye. I crushed the blacks and boosted the whites. I also added a healthy amount of clarity effect.

In your rendition you have your highlights and whites boosted way too much and are loosing a lot of detail. In lightroom your exposure workflow should look like this:

Hold the option key and slide the "blacks" down till you see black pins starting to appear in your image. This is Lightroom telling you where the black point of your image is. Do the same for white but push it up until you see white pins coming through. White and black is something that can be measured and is a mechanical process. Shadows and highlights are where you can set the tone or mood of your image.
 
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What's changing your mind?

Well the color is good and there is good depth. I do like the lines from the barn pointing to the shoreline. You did a good job exposing the original allowed me to punch it just how I’d want to. Sometimes things just grow on ya you know?
 
@brett8883 is just right in his post. The original image has much potential your edited version is a bit over the top with the brightness. I just leave the link to my simple guide here and hope, you don't mind: Some easy steps to improve your drone images

I've to go to bed now, but I'll come back tomorrow and give some more input. :)

Greetings
Jürgen
 
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@brett8883 is just right in his post. The original image has much potential your edited version is a bit over the top with the brightness. I just leave the link to my simple guide here and hope, you don't mind: Some easy steps to improve your drone images

I've to go to bed now, but I'll come back tomorrow and give some more input. :)

Greetings
Jürgen

Thanks for the feedback @brett8883 - @Photo-Sorko thanks for the link, I look forward to your further comments.
 
Brett nailed it.!
I didn't even noticed the coast Till His final edit.
Was so focus on the cabin and the first tree line
Turned a ho-hum picture into a Great shot .!
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i think this has a lot of potential, but the time of day it was taken isn't helping that potential. early morning or late afternoon lighting would help a lot to set a mood or create drama in the scene. throw in some clouds or fog along with that and maybe some different perspectives. your initial exposure is good so that helps with different renderings.

I took this into lightroom and played with it a bit, just added some contrast and adjusted the lighting a bit, cropped it and cloned out the tree leefs along the bottom edge. I also added a vignette. watch out for things along the edge of the image that creek in there. i usually look along my image edge to make sure there aren't weird things creeping in. i also played with a toned version.

keep experimenting and trying different things!barn-0216.jpg
barn toned-0216.jpg
 
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i think this has a lot of potential, but the time of day it was taken isn't helping that potential. early morning or late afternoon lighting would help a lot to set a mood or create drama in the scene. throw in some clouds or fog along with that and maybe some different perspectives. your initial exposure is good so that helps with different renderings.

I took this into lightroom and played with it a bit, just added some contrast and adjusted the lighting a bit, cropped it and cloned out the tree leefs along the bottom edge. I also added a vignette. watch out for things along the edge of the image that creek in there. i usually look along my image edge to make sure there aren't weird things creeping in. i also played with a toned version.

keep experimenting and trying different things!View attachment 65335
View attachment 65336

Yea there you go much much better comp.

The leaves! How did I miss the leaves!!! Good catch @eastsidedronr
 
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As promised, a post which gets a bit more into detail. First: everything is just my personal opinion with no claim to be right in every point.



To the original picture: the exposure is spot on, the colors provide a very good base for editing. The composing is good but could be a little bit better. I’d placed the drone some meters to the left and a little bit to the bottom. Maybe even a little bit more distance. Not quite sure how the tree line would had covered the land in the far.



For editing, I do these steps:

  • Crop the image to 3:2 (I’m a sucker for 3:2) and straighten the barn: vertical lines should be vertical.
    2019-03-08-20_27_48-Window.jpg 2019-03-08-20_29_27-Window.jpg
  • Clone the grass over the leaves in the bottom, remove the sand(?) in the right. Fill the empty space with content aware fill
    2019-03-08-20_33_44-Window.jpg
  • Now the composition is how I want it. Time to get to the colors. I use the Camera Raw Filter.
    cr_filter.png
    2019-03-08-20_43_07-Window.jpg
  • The horizon isn’t exact straight, so I transform the background a bit, to get a straight horizon. Clone the Layer and distort it
    2019-03-08-20_45_48-Window.jpg 2019-03-08-20_59_42-Window.jpg
  • Go over some details (patterns from cloning, color banding form color grading and so on)
  • Resize the picture to a “web size” (in my case: 2400 x1600)
    2019-03-08 21_02_33-Window.png
Done:
barn.jpg

Greetings
Jürgen
 
As promised, a post which gets a bit more into detail. First: everything is just my personal opinion with no claim to be right in every point.



To the original picture: the exposure is spot on, the colors provide a very good base for editing. The composing is good but could be a little bit better. I’d placed the drone some meters to the left and a little bit to the bottom. Maybe even a little bit more distance. Not quite sure how the tree line would had covered the land in the far.



For editing, I do these steps:

Done:
View attachment 65413

Greetings
Jürgen

How did you figure out “web size.” Just pixel density?
 
Nah, it's not a standard or something else. Just large enough to have enough details but small enough for a not-to-big file size. And 2400x1600 is the way I go.
 
Thanks everyone for the feedback - I will take it all on board and hope that my next image I have shown improvement!!

Cheers,
Bizzy
 

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