Request for Drone Pilots in the Southern PA area

[Seahawk Driver]

Hello to the Mavic pilots out there. I am hoping to enlist the help of 10 to 20 pilots in conducting a little test. I live in the vicinity of the Fairfield soaring club. They fly out of a small, local field. I am attempting to prove a concept that I am working on regarding drones and flying over them over airfields. This would not involve conducting this test at anytime during flight ops, however, the goal would be to run the op during the day and at night to be able to test the concepts I am trying to develop. The point of this effort is develop a viable counter drone concept that anticipates your launch point. But, as with any idea, its got to be proven in a real world scenario. It would involve the launch of 1 to 2 drones at a place and time of your choosing. It would then involve the launch of multiple drones for overflight of the field. I would not be privy to your plan, your launch time or your path. I am simply trying to develop a reporting process to formalize critical information highlighting detection of the drone, the amount of time the drone spends over the field, altitude, and when it departs. This is a nascent concept and I am trying to gauge the interest of members in providing flight services. There would be no pay - this is simply done if you feel like spending your time and skills in assisting me with this process. Thanks and have a great day.

 

[Cymruflyer]

I don't understand why a drone needs to be flying in the close proximity to a glider port. As a drone flyer and a pilot of gliders and powered aircraft, I see no earthly reason why you should be dabbling in the vicinity of an airport that is a sailplane club as well.

Such airports are almost always out in the country somewhere and you would have ample space to go and fly somewhere else, without bothering the local pilots, especially glider pilots, who no option but to land, when on finals. What concept are you trying to prove?

 

[Seahawk Driver]

I don't understand why a drone needs to be flying in the close proximity to a glider port. As a drone flyer and a pilot of gliders and powered aircraft, I see no earthly reason why you should be dabbling in the vicinity of an airport that is a sailplane club as well.

Such airports are almost always out in the country somewhere and you would have ample space to go and fly somewhere else, without bothering the local pilots, especially glider pilots, who no option but to land, when on finals. What concept are you trying to prove?

So first of all, I appreciate your question. This concept is trying to develop a process for a standardized reporting system for drone incursions in restricted airspace. The aim is to develop a methodology that will allow the formulation of a predictive model that will point out the most likely starting point for nefarious drone activity. The point of this effort is to protect the public from those that wish to use drones for illegal and dangerous purposes.

 

[GadgetGuy]

So first of all, I appreciate your question. This concept is trying to develop a process for a standardized reporting system for drone incursions in restricted airspace. The aim is to develop a methodology that will allow the formulation of a predictive model that will point out the most likely starting point for nefarious drone activity. The point of this effort is to protect the public from those that wish to use drones for illegal and dangerous purposes.

What is wrong with RID? Isn't that exactly what RID is intended to be used for, maintaining historical data of all past flights by each drone RID? Isn't that exactly what the DroneTag RIDER already does in its Cloud database of all flights in any given area?

 

[Cafguy]

Your late to the game.

the most likely starting point for nefarious drone activity.

that would be BEST BUY.

 

[Seahawk Driver]

What is wrong with RID? Isn't that exactly what RID is intended to be used for, maintaining historical data of all past flights by each drone RID? Isn't that exactly what the DroneTag RIDER already does in its Cloud database of all flights in any given area?

RID is a system (as you know) designed to provide the ID of the drone. The issue is not the majority of drone pilots that want to fly their systems legally. Its those folks that don't observe the rules or truthfully its those people with the intent to use the drone for nefarious ends. I'm sure you've heard of Gatwick International in the UK that happened in 2018. 1000 flights cancelled for one drone at the approach end of the runway that no system could successfully interdict, or worse yet find out who was driving the drone. The things that are taking place on the battlefield in Ukraine are changing the face of this capability for the worse. I want to do a test where developing the proper reporting mechanism will feed a capability that will allow for the development of a model that provides an understanding of where the flight might be originating from. This test is hopefully going to go in a direction to develop a capability that will keeping people at bay who wish to use drones for bad things.

 

[360 Guy]

My first impression in reading the post, is that someone (not mentioned) doesn't like drones and would like to develop a system that will shut them down when they enter the designated air space.
I'm out!!

 

[Cafguy]

This test is hopefully going to go in a direction to develop a capability that will keeping people at bay who wish to use drones for bad things.

This is what aeroscope and its replacements are doing.

 

[Seahawk Driver]

My first impression in reading the post, is that someone (not mentioned) doesn't like drones and would like to develop a system that will shut them down when they enter the designated air space.
I'm out!!

NYPD wants power to take down any dangerous drones flying over NYC

Police Commissioner Jessica Tisch says the department has already tracked over 75,000 drone flights this year—and with summer events heating up, that number is expected to spike.

newyork.news12.com

75000 drones reported in NY this year. These are NYPD numbers. Its not the guys that want to stop illegal drone flights that threaten your freedom. Its the 75000 reported drones that no one has an answer for. I appreciate your concern, but as a guy who served 26 years in the Navy defending the country, I assure you I cant be a part of something that takes away rights.

 

[hank970]

NYPD wants power to take down any dangerous drones flying over NYC

Police Commissioner Jessica Tisch says the department has already tracked over 75,000 drone flights this year—and with summer events heating up, that number is expected to spike.

newyork.news12.com

75000 drones reported in NY this year. These are NYPD numbers. Its not the guys that want to stop illegal drone flights that threaten your freedom. Its the 75000 reported drones that no one has an answer for. I appreciate your concern, but as a guy who served 26 years in the Navy defending the country, I assure you I cant be a part of something that takes away rights.

75,000 reported* drone flights in New York that no one has an answer for? What's the question that needs to be answered, to whom should drone pilots direct their answers, and why?

*Reported, perhaps, by a bunch of timid souls swept up in the recent hysteria about lights in the night sky over NJ and NY? If so, much ado about nothing.

 

[Felix le Chat]

RID is a system (as you know) designed to provide the ID of the drone. The issue is not the majority of drone pilots that want to fly their systems legally. Its those folks that don't observe the rules or truthfully its those people with the intent to use the drone for nefarious ends. I'm sure you've heard of Gatwick International in the UK that happened in 2018. 1000 flights cancelled for one drone at the approach end of the runway that no system could successfully interdict, or worse yet find out who was driving the drone. The things that are taking place on the battlefield in Ukraine are changing the face of this capability for the worse. I want to do a test where developing the proper reporting mechanism will feed a capability that will allow for the development of a model that provides an understanding of where the flight might be originating from. This test is hopefully going to go in a direction to develop a capability that will keeping people at bay who wish to use drones for bad things.

Just to interdict with a fact check here concerning my own home turf.

Regarding the "Gatwick Incident" (2018). It was proved that there was not one single "rogue drone" piloted by either a bonehead or malicious individual that set this incident off.

The only drone discovered to have been flown in regulated airport airspace during those three days had been deployed by the police (Matrice).

It was this drone deployed on a 'training exercise' that had been spotted and reported by members of the public that kicked this whole knee-jerk farce off.

This was backed up by the Aeroscope records taken from the system installed in the area. The police were.... reluctant.... to admit to their breach of a regulated FRZ.

I'm getting very tired of people citing spurious media driven reports of 'malicious and dangerous drone incursions' as justification for the targeting of the average drone user in the development of anti-drone initiatives.

Addendum
Just to set the record on an even straighter path: DJI Aeroscope is not limited to proprietary drones: it capable of receiving and recording UUID, positioning and telemetry data from drones produced by: DJI: Autel: Yuneec: Skydio: Parrot: Husban and whatever other drones transmit a control signal on both 2.4-2.48gHz and 5.8gHz.