Why some of your FreePanos may not show as takeable (solved)

[Bussty]

I learned something today after trying to take several FreePano's in the weekend with the 6x Camera. Anything a little complex or large came up with a message saying the angle was too high or number of images too great. I tested again a few days later and it seemed I could take whatever I wanted in 6x FreePano mode. I thought it was a controller upgrade in the weekend but it was something else. If you have panorama stitching set to Jpeg in the menu (default) you will get issues when trying to take large or high pitch FreePanos however if you switch that setting off Freepano will let you capture anything. Only problem is this setting can only be set when in the air and defaults to "Jpeg" so you have to switch it to "None" everytime you fly the drone if wanting to do FreePanos.

In case you haven't tried FreePano stitches (especially 2.5x and 6x) can give you stunning high quality images of parts of your normal 28mm frame when you stitch a mosaic of images to make up one large high quality image. Is a game changer for Photo users and is like having a much higher quality camera in the sky

 

[GadgetGuy]

I learned something today after trying to take several FreePano's in the weekend with the 6x Camera. Anything a little complex or large came up with a message saying the angle was too high or number of images too great. I tested again a few days later and it seemed I could take whatever I wanted in 6x FreePano mode. I thought it was a controller upgrade in the weekend but it was something else. If you have panorama stitching set to Jpeg in the menu (default) you will get issues when trying to take large or high pitch FreePanos however if you switch that setting off Freepano will let you capture anything. Only problem is this setting can only be set when in the air and defaults to "Jpeg" so you have to switch it to "None" everytime you fly the drone if wanting to do FreePanos.

In case you haven't tried FreePano stitches (especially 2.5x and 6x) can give you stunning high quality images of parts of your normal 28mm frame when you stitch a mosaic of images to make up one large high quality image. Is a game changer for Photo users and is like having a much higher quality camera in the sky

Good information. However, for clarification, you must mean the menu setting for whether or not to save original Free Pano images. The three options should be "Yes" with the option to save them as either JPG or DNG or "None" which saves no images except the in camera created stitch from the original Free Pano photos.

Makes sense, as in order to both save originals and stitch requires JPG for the originals. If you select DNG instead, no in camera stitch is available. Too much processing overhead and DNG's are unable to be stitched in camera.

When using the 2.5x and 6x cameras for exceptionally large Free Panos requiring lots of photos, in order to process such a large stitch, the camera can't simultaneously write all those photos to the microSD card. On large Free Panos you have to forgo saving any of the original JPG images, and hope the in camera stitch worked out well.

Is there an option of a full Spherical Pano using the 6x telephoto, or is that option limited to just the 2.5x and 1x cameras?

 

[Bussty]

Good information. However, for clarification, you must mean the menu setting for whether or not to save original Free Pano images. The three options should be "Yes" with the option to save them as either JPG or DNG or "None" which saves no images except the in camera created stitch from the original Free Pano photos.

Makes sense, as in order to both save originals and stitch requires JPG for the originals. If you select DNG instead, no in camera stitch is available. Too much processing overhead and DNG's are unable to be stitched in camera.

When using the 2.5x and 6x cameras for exceptionally large Free Panos requiring lots of photos, in order to process such a large stitch, the camera can't simultaneously write all those photos to the microSD card. On large Free Panos you have to forgo saving any of the original JPG images, and hope the in camera stitch worked out well.

Is there an option of a full Spherical Pano using the 6x telephoto, or is that option limited to just the 2.5x and 1x cameras?

I think it is different with freepano only two settings there..


Sorry no 6x spherical pano at this point but how many images would that take?

 

[GadgetGuy]

I think it is different with freepano only two settings there..
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Sorry no 6x spherical pano at this point but how many images would that take?

Output Format refers to the final stitched image which can only be None or JPEG. If you first set Photo Type to RAW the only Output Format option should Off.

So the three options are: 1. Photo Type JPEG with Output Format JPG (Stitch)
2. Photo Type JPEG with Output Format Off (No stitch)
3. Photo Type RAW with Output Format Off (No stitch)

Thanks for clarifying the lack of 6x spherical pano, which would be around 500 images! No technical reason would prevent it, as the images are just shot and saved into a folder for later stitching with software. You could certainly shoot it manually in either JPEG and/or DNG, with enough patience and good technique. Probably 20 minutes shot manually, which could be reduced to 10 with DJI automation.

So, exactly how wide in degrees can you shoot the 6x Free panos, if you set output format to Off?
Can you even do a 90° pano? How about a 180° pano?
If one could just shoot five 90° panos (allowing for 25% overlap), one could then create a 6x Spherical Pano with automation support, but no originals. One would just need to manually stitch together the 5 resulting JPG images.

 

[Bussty]

Output Format refers to the final stitched image which can only be None or JPEG. If you first set Photo Type to RAW the only Output Format option should Off.

So the three options are: 1. Photo Type JPEG with Output Format JPG (Stitch)
2. Photo Type JPEG with Output Format Off (No stitch)
3. Photo Type RAW with Output Format Off (No stitch)

Thanks for clarifying the lack of 6x spherical pano, which would be around 500 images! No technical reason would prevent it, as the images are just shot and saved into a folder for later stitching with software. You could certainly shoot it manually in either JPEG and/or DNG, with enough patience and good technique. Probably 20 minutes shot manually, which could be reduced to 10 with DJI automation.

So, exactly how wide in degrees can you shoot the 6x Free panos, if you set output format to Off?
Can you even do a 90° pano? How about a 180° pano?
If one could just shoot five 90° panos (allowing for 25% overlap), one could then create a 6x Spherical Pano with automation support, but no originals. One would just need to manually stitch together the 5 resulting JPG images.

I'm pretty sure with that stitch option to off the sky is the limit except up and down is limited to 60 degrees. Might test this tomorrow too. I had test runs at 215 images and still no warning it couldn't take them. Encouraging!

 

[GadgetGuy]

I'm pretty sure with that stitch option to off the sky is the limit except up and down is limited to 60 degrees. Might test this tomorrow too. I had test runs at 215 images and still no warning it couldn't take them. Encouraging!

Sounds great! Keep pushing the envelope. Can you select 50MP stills instead of 12MP stills with the same freedom? Find the max field of view the Free Pano will allow or the max images. Try testing a single row going around 180°. Even a 360° single row image stitch would be cool. 3 rows of 180° would make a great image!
Have you had any resulting stitches that had glitches in the stitch, where the horizon or lines in the photo are misaligned?

 

[Bussty]

Sounds great! Keep pushing the envelope. Can you select 50MP stills instead of 12MP stills with the same freedom? Find the max field of view the Free Pano will allow or the max images. Try testing a single row going around 180°. Even a 360° single row image stitch would be cool. 3 rows of 180° would make a great image!
Have you had any resulting stitches that had glitches in the stitch, where the horizon or lines in the photo are misaligned?

Haven't tried the 50MP from what I have seen the magenta / green banding creeps back in, was bad on the mini 3 pro. But I will try this. I'll also put it on Freepano no-stitch and see what horizontal angle I can clock up. I am thinking it will do at least 360.

The cool thing about Freepano is if you select one row it gives you three anyway which is pretty cool as it thinks you want the window view so it goes outside that for convergence errors I guess making sure you get what you want.

As I stitch my own I seldom get stitching errors, using Panorama Studio Pro you can mask out some errors but to be honest with the 6x the stitches should be easier as less distortion.

Will keep you posted.