Mavic 3 Pro Released with new FW Released as well

TheGroove · Apr 21, 2023

SteveR43 said:
Look at my video in post 78. I would not call that a social media shot or simple point and shoot. It's an effect you can only get with the zoom lens. I think it looks great myself. It's even zoomed to 28x digital. I could not create this effect in post either.

I don't mean to take that away, it's actually great video footage, the zoom is just not high enough quality for me and the work I do personally.

Wreckhunter · Apr 21, 2023

TheGroove said:
I don't mean to take that away, it's actually great video footage, the zoom is just not high enough quality for me and the work I do personally.

Digital zoom will always be digital zoom.good for identification purposes and that is it.
But the video,being a birder also all I can say is anytime you get to see,photo or video a bald
eagle is a treat.

waynorth · Apr 21, 2023

SteveR43 said:
MOST PEOPLE STILL CALL THIS LENS, TO GET CLOSEUPS, A "ZOOM" LENS, EVEN THOUGH IT IS A FIXED LENS.

It is still not a zoom lens.
And what about wideangle lenses? They can also be zoom lenses.
A zoom lens is a lens with variable focal length. A lens from 24-48mm can be called a 2x zoom lens. A lens from 70-210mm can be called a 3x zoom lens.
But the Mavic 3 has no lens with variable focal length, in fact it has two cameras with one fixed-focal lens each.

Oh, and almost none of the people I discuss photography with call a fixed lens a zoom lens. These people are either enthusiasts, professionals, or just genuinely interested in photography. One thing they have in common is that they understand the need for using the correct terminology.

Meta4 · Apr 21, 2023

SteveR43 said:
You say it's not semantics

That's because it's not semantics at all.

SteveR43 said:
but lets say I own a 35mm standard DSLR camera. I then think to myself, I want a lens that can see things further away. Lets say this lens is a fixed lens. MOST PEOPLE STILL CALL THIS LENS, TO GET CLOSEUPS, A "ZOOM" LENS, EVEN THOUGH IT IS A FIXED LENS. THEY CALL IT A ZOOM LENS BECAUSE THEY ARE COMPARING IT TO THEIR NATIVE 35MM LENS.

You are talking about people who know next to nothing about cameras and photography.
Referring to a fixed tele lens as a zoom, puts you in that category.
For 50 years photographers have made a clear distinction between fixed focal length telephoto lenses and variable focal length lenses.
A zoom lens isn't necessarily a tele lens.
There are plenty of wideangle zoom lenses.

Meta4 · Apr 21, 2023

SteveR43 said:
Look at my video in post 78. I would not call that a social media shot

Most photographers would.
Digital zoom turns your image to mush at high magnification.

SteveR43 said:
It's an effect you can only get with the zoom lens.

If you are talking about photography, try to use the appropriate terms
You mean you could only achieve this with a long lens.
Whether the lens is a zoom or not has nothing to do with it.

TheGroove · Apr 21, 2023

It’s just a little confusing with the zoom ranges and combos that DJI offers is all. In the end it appears you have two prime lenses at different focal lengths, only you have two different sensors/systems as well. When zooming around it jumps between them and uses hybrids where applicable, or so it seems.

To be fair those of us coming from the world of DSLR/mirrorless have to wrap our heads around this system. Not overly complex but still a learning curve and acceptance of lower quality than we’re used to seeing on some of the higher end cameras.

Meta4 · Apr 21, 2023

TheGroove said:
To be fair those of us coming from the world of DSLR/mirrorless have to wrap our heads around this system. Not overly complex but still a learning curve and acceptance of lower quality than we’re used to seeing on some of the higher end cameras.

Those of us coming from the world of DSLR/mirrorless just ignore digital zoom altogether.
We know we can do what it does in the computer.

TheGroove · Apr 21, 2023

Meta4 said:
Those of us coming from the world of DSLR/mirrorless just ignore digital zoom altogether.
We know we can do what it does in the computer.

Right, so you’re only either shooting at 3 or 7, right?

Meta4 · Apr 21, 2023

TheGroove said:
Right, so you’re only either shooting at 3 or 7, right?

Yes

TheGroove · Apr 21, 2023

Meta4 said:
Yes

A point of confusion for me is the hybrid system, so it’s strictly digital zoom then?

Meta4 · Apr 21, 2023

TheGroove said:
A point of confusion for me is the hybrid system, so it’s strictly digital zoom then?

Yes ... the people that keep referring to a zoom lens have no idea what zoom means.
The drone has two fixed focus lenses and anything other than 1X and 7X are using digital zoom.
The Mavic 3 pro will have 3x as well.

TheGroove · Apr 21, 2023

Meta4 said:
Yes ... the people that keep referring to a zoom lens have no idea what zoom means.

Yes, clearly we should all be ashamed of ourselves for not fully understanding the DJI system. Hoping to become a real photographer someday.

gogorokokoko · Apr 21, 2023

back on topic

these are the versions and the accessories

DJI Mavic 3 Pro with RC
DJI Mavic 3 Pro Fly More Combo with RC
DJI Mavic 3 Pro Fly More Combo with RC Pro
DJI Mavic 3 Pro Cine Premium Combo
DJI Mavic 3 Pro Storage Cover
DJI Mavic 3 Pro ND Filter Set 8/16/32/64
DJI Mavic 3 Pro Wide-Angle Lens
DJI Mavic 3 Pro Propeller Guard

waynorth · Apr 21, 2023

gogorokokoko said:
back on topic
these are the versions and the accessories

DJI Mavic 3 Pro with RC
DJI Mavic 3 Pro Fly More Combo with RC
DJI Mavic 3 Pro Fly More Combo with RC Pro
DJI Mavic 3 Pro Cine Premium Combo
DJI Mavic 3 Pro Storage Cover
DJI Mavic 3 Pro ND Filter Set 8/16/32/64
DJI Mavic 3 Pro Wide-Angle Lens
DJI Mavic 3 Pro Propeller Guard

Pro Cine Premium Combo sounds very expensive!

TheGroove · Apr 23, 2023

More from Jasper on Twitter.

gogorokokoko · Apr 23, 2023

some more leaks here

https://twitter.com/Quadro_News

thomasthomas · Apr 23, 2023

gogorokokoko said:
some more leaks here

https://twitter.com/Quadro_News

Is he reliable? Where does he get his info from?

If he's right, then the only change is the addition of a third camera. That's good for recent Mavic 3 buyers. At least they won't have much buyer's remorse.

TheGroove · Apr 23, 2023

thomasthomas said:
Is he reliable? Where does he get his info from?

I have no real idea here but it does appear that he has product details, as if they're marketing notes.

thomasthomas said:
If he's right, then the only change is the addition of a third camera. That's good for recent Mavic 3 buyers. At least they won't have much buyer's remorse.

It will be interesting to know which sensors they're on and how it's configured.

3rdof5 · Apr 23, 2023

If the advertised data is correct, other than the 3rd camera, the only other improvement is frame rates, maybe due to the faster SSD drive? Or will that be FW dependent and the other models will get that as well with a future FW update? It's a sweet aircraft but I certainly have no buyers remorse for recently purchasing a Classic. I'm not a pro photographer so the Classic is more than adequate for my needs and far less expensive. And for all of you with the dual cam Mavic 3, I don’t forsee anyone rushing to upgrade. Seems an odd strategy here from DJI...

Meta4 · Apr 23, 2023

3rdof5 said:
the only other improvement is frame rates, maybe due to the faster SSD drive? Or will that be FW dependent and the other models will get that as well with a future FW update?

It's due to replacing the Sony 272 sensor with the 472.

3rdof5 said:
And for all of you with the dual cam Mavic 3, I don’t forsee anyone rushing to upgrade. Seems an odd strategy here from DJI...

That's going to depend on the requirements of the individual user.
The 7x camera is fairly extreme and a big jump beyond the main camera.
For my kind of photography, I often want something different from the very wideangle of the main camera and a 70mm equivalent would be a big plus for me and more useful than the 7x..