Neighbor Hates Drone Questions for You Guys and Gals?

[ckorch]

ive had only one person in my area complain and he stopped and starting telling me about how he takes them out the sky with a laser pointer and blah blah blah. told him i'd be careful who i told that to as its a felony to point a laser pointer aircraft. Haven't heard from anyone since. but i do fly up to around 250ft at takeoff as to not annoy to many people.

 

[lisadoc]

One point I've made here before: Aircraft operating in accordance to FCC regs are exempt from noise ordinance in most jurisdictions.

You're not operating an aircraft, nor are you technically in compliance with FAA regs, as the FAA, by law, is not allowed to regulate the flying of UAS's or other model aircraft as a hobby.

 

[Ron_Dog]

You're not operating an aircraft, nor are you technically in compliance with FAA regs, as the FAA, by law, is not allowed to regulate the flying of UAS's or other model aircraft as a hobby.

"FAA, by law, is not allowed to regulate the flying of UAS's or other model aircraft as a hobby" They sure are trying too though!.

 

[chris765_2000]

I've got those dual LED mini flashlights that attach to a landing gear extender. These things are stupid bright -- and if you fly into fog it really makes a nice beam!

RE: The cranky neighbor. I think we *all* have at least one. One of mine called the cops on me for night flying (called in as noise complaint). It was before 9pm and I was up 400 feet. Cop couldn't even here it over the AC units and frogs croaking. I told him to tell the complainant to reach out to me and I will be happy to talk to him (If I knew who it was, I'd avoid their house). Well no one ever called or came by so I just do my thing. Haven't had any issues since.

I want to be a good neighbor and a responsible flyer, but I also am not going to apologize for my hobby and asserting my rights.

I think your neighbor is a miserable person and miserable people blaim their misery on everyone else. Ever notice how the most miserable people are the biggest complainers. If you were to stop shooting your gun and flying your drone then this person would find something else to ***** about. They want to blame all the their misery on anyone but themselves. Unfortunately this world is full of miserable people. Don't let them spread their misery onto you.

 

[BadRad]

I don't really have a neighbor problem. Most of my neighbors can't see my house directly from theirs so I can launch anywhere in the yard and they don't see it. We have some huge fields in the back and front of the yard and that is where I usually fly over. The only time the neighbors can really see it is when I have it down low in the front yard and I am practicing low level tripod mode moves. I am always directly over my yard though when I do that. So really I don't give a crap about what they think or do. I am good friends with our Sheriff, I grew up next door to his dad. I have never had anyone call the Sheriff to come out because of me flying, which I think they don't call because they are afraid they are going to find out they are doing something wrong themselves as the Sheriff visits most of them frequently. Which I think that is part of the whole reason they have a problem with me flying is because they are doing things they shouldn't be doing and they are paranoid that I am filming them and they don't want to get caught. But I really couldn't give a rat's behind what they are doing as long as they stay away from me and off my property. Which usually I don't have to worry about them for long because with the exception of two other families on my road, none of my neighbors are property owners, they all rent. Renters usually don't stay very long so I just have to give them 6 months to a year and they will be gone.

So today was trash pickup day and before I went to work I had to roll the can to the curb. It was dark, it was foggy, and I live on a dead end road in the country so I took my mini flashlight with me. I set the can out and start back to the house with my flashlight still on. Remember how it was cool when you were a kid to shine it into the fog like a light saber? Well it is still fun when you are 50. So I am walking back and I hear a neighbor out in the front yard three houses down yelling a few explicatives that include GD and F and a few others in conjunction with Neighbor and Drone. Keep in mind it is 05:00 and well I am the only one with a drone in the neighborhood so it has to be directed to me. Last thing I heard was why the F would that GD idiot be flying that F ing drone at this time of the morning, can't he give it a F ing rest! Now of course my Mavic was in the house in my bag waiting for me to take it to work with me so I wonder if this is the drone my neighbor was talking about? Can you guys tell me the best settings to put it on so I get good smooth flight control? Do I need FAA registration for it? If it happens that it crashes into my Neighbors as I tell them to shove it somewhere, would the FAA ban me from flying it? Do I need a COA to do that?

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Why not just confront the neighbor with the facts?

 

[Javier Lanza]

Drop a nuke bomb with your drone on top of her house.

 

[cderoche]

I would paint little green men onto your Mavic and maybe she'll think its a UFO, and report that to the Sheriff, then they can commit her.

 

[cderoche]

Drop a nuke bomb with your drone on top of her house.

lol they come in sizes less than 1 pound now?

 

[FlyGuy8675309]

You're not operating an aircraft

Please unpack this for me. I'd love to hear how the Mavic isn't an aircraft.

 

[lisadoc]

Please unpack this for me. I'd love to hear how the Mavic isn't an aircraft.

It is a "model aircraft", not an airplane. By law, FAA noise standards/restrictions apply to certificated aircraft, and most jurisdictions employ FAA standards, thereby making "model aircraft" inapplicable to any noise exemptions. (Noise restrictions also apply to airports and their flight paths and obviously those exemptions don't apply here either). A model aircraft is not a certificated airplane and receives no airworthiness certification, therefore to claim that one is flying "in accordance with FAA regs" is a legal stretch and I can't imagine a judge would uphold that type of exemption. Feel free to tout this presumed exemption to your local law enforcement agency and/or courts, but I personally wouldn't want to defend that specific legal conclusion in front of a judge.

 

[Roc Rat]

I recall a quote from Mark Twain, "As soon as you realize that nobody is "normal"...everything else makes sense."

 

[cderoche]

Please unpack this for me. I'd love to hear how the Mavic isn't an aircraft.

 

[FlyGuy8675309]

It is a "model aircraft", not an airplane. By law, FAA noise standards/restrictions apply to certificated aircraft, and most jurisdictions employ FAA standards, thereby making "model aircraft" inapplicable to any noise exemptions. (Noise restrictions also apply to airports and their flight paths and obviously those exemptions don't apply here either). A model aircraft is not a certificated airplane and receives no airworthiness certification, therefore to claim that one is flying "in accordance with FAA regs" is a legal stretch and I can't imagine a judge would uphold that type of exemption. Feel free to tout this presumed exemption to your local law enforcement agency and/or courts, but I personally wouldn't want to defend that specific legal conclusion in front of a judge.

Well you're entitled to your opinions but not your own facts. The fact is the FAA considers drones to be bona-fide aircraft, and that's really all that matters. (Also the fact that you stated "it's not an aircraft", and then called it an aircraft twice in your explanation also doesn't help your argument LOLOLOLOL)

 

[MavPro75]

LOL! Glad I'm not the only one that does this at my age

Ps. Those cheap laser pointers are great in the fog too!

I am 72 and still think of the flashlight in the fog as a light saber. Have fun and screw the neighbors. You are never "too" old. Besides, your grandchildren will love it!

 

[MavPro75]

I knew they had mental problems before the incident. Off the drone topic but I have a gun range at my house as well, again I live in the country. I was out there practicing a few weeks ago and I hear yelling and screaming and turn around and here she comes across my yard towards the range arms flailing in the air. All that to tell me she lost her boyfriend and I needed to stop all the noise and show some respect. Well first what idiot goes hollering, yelling, screaming, arm flailing towards someone holding a loaded gun? Second it ended up her and her boyfriend got in a fight and he ran off. IDIOT is exactly what she is.

The boyfriend was the "smart" one!

 

[MavPro75]

I think your neighbor is a miserable person and miserable people blaim their misery on everyone else. Ever notice how the most miserable people are the biggest complainers. If you were to stop shooting your gun and flying your drone then this person would find something else to ***** about. They want to blame all the their misery on anyone but themselves. Unfortunately this world is full of miserable people. Don't let them spread their misery onto you.

Disagree. This world is full of compassionate people. The few miserable people get most of the attention.

 

[Gerald Ellis]

I sense a "5150" coming on.....
Google it.....

I BINGED it because I don't use the Gargle (sic) search and it is something that looks like it could be abused easily.
Bad manners is not not a criminal or mental illness offense. Besides the problem with his neighbor sounds like ***** envy.
My neighbor has this problem and confiscated my first Mavic after it landed on his property after going into low battery mode due to the sun causing the obstacle avoidance system to interrupt the flight. My error was not cancelling the mission (it was on the way home) and yawing it away from the sun. Anyway I can't prove he stole it because the video (on my tablet) shut off after it landed. I just know it wasn't where it landed 10 minutes later when I went to get it. And he claimed he never saw it but he has mentioned to another neighbor that "There should be law against people flying these camera drones." Bear in mind this is a rural area with lots from 3 to 20 acres and his house is about 1/4 mile away from mine. It's not my fault he was born with a small *****.

 

[Gerald Ellis]

It is a "model aircraft", not an airplane. By law, FAA noise standards/restrictions apply to certificated aircraft, and most jurisdictions employ FAA standards, thereby making "model aircraft" inapplicable to any noise exemptions. (Noise restrictions also apply to airports and their flight paths and obviously those exemptions don't apply here either). A model aircraft is not a certificated airplane and receives no airworthiness certification, therefore to claim that one is flying "in accordance with FAA regs" is a legal stretch and I can't imagine a judge would uphold that type of exemption. Feel free to tout this presumed exemption to your local law enforcement agency and/or courts, but I personally wouldn't want to defend that specific legal conclusion in front of a judge.

It may be a model aircraft but it is still an aircraft because "it flies through the air with or without the greatest of ease." And the FAA does class it as an aircraft and that's the reason they are gung-ho about regulating hobby "aircraft" and are lobbying congress to change the exemption law. If not for AMA we would probably be banned from flying multicopters above 25' and 50' away the transmitter.

 

[cderoche]

Have fun and screw the neighbors.

Hahah that sounds like an old Halloween Party game we used to play.

 

[Claybond]

It may be a model aircraft but it is still an aircraft because "it flies through the air with or without the greatest of ease." And the FAA does class it as an aircraft and that's the reason they are gung-ho about regulating hobby "aircraft" and are lobbying congress to change the exemption law. If not for AMA we would probably be banned from flying multicopters above 25' and 50' away the transmitter.

Jesus you two, let it go already, your taking up pages to have a bloody argument, it's an aircraft, and a model airplane and unless you 2 high and mighty's do something that involves a plot of destruction or otherwise, neither of you is gonna ever be anywhere near the FAA, or a courtroom having your stupid debate over what the hell it is