Because contrary to popular misconception, it's not illegal for them to fly below 400 ft.
Drone Hits Helicopter
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What does it matter? The idiot was violating a TFR!!!
Really? Suggest that "the media" lied about the incident and shrug it off?
Fox News, Huffington Post, and essentially every outlet in between reported the collision. You suggest that they might have all conspired to promote a falsehood?
Did I shrug something off?
Did I suggest a conspiracy among the media?
Whether or not someone believes the media is their business.
If you have 20 media outlets saying the same thing, it's because they have the same source. This isn't new.
I don't have a misconception. I'm curious as to why they need to fly below 400 feet?
I'm implying that there could be an easy compromise to get more eyes in the sky without causing more danger.
It's a question related to the situation. It wasn't a judgement on any guilt or innocence.
There are not enough dirty words in the book to describe that "pilot". Needs to have license suspended, and pull out the checkbook. Clown.
How in the hell do you not hear and see a helicopter? Very frustrating.
How in the hell do you not hear and see a helicopter? Very frustrating.
Just a guess but I'd jump to the conclusion that they were flying outside LOS. Just looking at the screen for what's in front of the drone.
I'm not saying that most of us haven't done the same thing, or been tempted to but especially in a TFR area, it's dumb.
Then go ask the helicopter pilot.
Who are you to suggest they were doing something wrong?
You weren't there, you have no idea what they were doing.
Given the emergency issues where this happened, there's a pretty good chance that whatever they were doing, it was important, which is why the TFR was in place, so that official aircraft would be able to fly without having to worry about drones getting in their way.
It's ridiculous to expect emergency operations to compromise, just so uninvolved and uncontrolled people can get their uninformed eyes in the sky.
This is mostly true. There is but one source and all the news media are reporting off the same source and it's the FB post from the government. If you read the news stories, they are all basically the same which means they copy each other but short on any new facts. Haven't heard anything new in a few days which usually means the story is about to change if the next update makes it to light but it's probably better if nothing else is added and everyone just believe whatever they are told in that tweet and leave it at that. Much easier to report the actual findings of the investigation later after the drone gets dragged for a week or two.
Will withhold my opinions about the county FB post and included comments about shooting down drones until later.....
You got the point.
We have been lied to before. Whether the media not doing their diligence in actually investigating a story, or the source of the story flat out lying to create a narrative.
Too often the first reports are not accurate and by the time the truth comes out there's a new big story so the information continues to be inaccurate.
I'm not saying the truth is never presented, I'm saying with the history of reporting accurately in the last decade, declining, I have natural skepticism, especially when the story is trying to create a villain.
anotherlab
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That was the situation. The pilot was violating a TFR. This has nothing to do with trying to blame the media or what altitude the drone was at. They should not have been flying there at all.
And a responsible pilot shouldn't require a TFR to know that it was entirely wrong and dangerous to be flying in that area with search and rescue operations in progress and people's lives hanging in the balance.
That's a common perspective and it's strongly promoted by certain powerful individuals. I'm always curious about examples, but I seldom see actual examples of the media inventing a story that was false.
anotherlab
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The original report was from Kerr County (TX). They posted this:
Kerr County said:
If you read what was being posted by the media local to Kerry County, at no point was a villain being created.
AMann
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And any type of helicopter-based visual ground surveys and other similar work (SARs, wildlife and park resource management projects, fire fighting, crop dusting, etc), often require helicopters to fly very low, even just tens of feet above ground level.
Besides not following the TFR, I wonder if that pilot was flying where he had an obstructed view of his horizon - a big mistake! This is why I do not let my drone linger above ridge tops if I am below it- you simply cannot see or hear what is coming over from the other side. We have a tanker base in our local airport, and they like to skim the ridges on their approaches. Entirely legal for them to do it as it’s over a remote area.
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Do you have a valid example? FOX is not news. They are an entertainment program (their words, not mine).You asked for an example of fake news (watch this, it's hilarous):
They also settled a $1.6 Billion lawsuit for $787,000,000.00 for reporting fake news.
They peddle in conspiracy theories and misinformation. Not a good example.
If you get to decide who is "the legitimate news" and what the definition of "inventing a story" is then sure, you are absolutely right there are very few examples. And, you can't claim we just report the news we don't create it. that's the very definition of fake news.
We don't yet know all the TX drone collision. I honestly believe there was a collision but no one has verified the timing or who was flying the drone and how can someone says the person had no permission unless and until all the facts are in? We don't know if a person has been caught, if the aircraft is back in service, etc.
Look, I understand not waiting until 100% of the facts are in and going with the news story when you only have some or most of the information and you believe your source(s) is credible and I understand a news report is not perfect and the press has a right to retract or update a previous statement. I support free speech and the rights of the press and that includes the right to tell the story how they see fit which is why I don't subscribe to all media is truthful.
You don't have to look further back than late last year with the drones over NJ. I've never seen so many lies and fake news and dishonestly in such a short timeframe. To me, a lie is when you say something and at the time, you know what you are saying is absolutely untrue regardless of the rationale for it.
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The county made it clear that this was a preventable collision.
You would think that collision and the public would have been enough, but another drone struck another ER helicopter and forced it down. Source: Drone strikes helicopter carrying Kerrville city officials during flood recovery – The Kerr County Lead
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