INCIDENT: Envoy E175 Collides With Drone In Chicago! - Mentour Pilot
An Envoy E175 hit a drone, as it climbed out of Chicago. The flight crew were able to return the aircraft for a safe landing, back in O’Hare.
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I'm skeptical on this one...... drone was supposedly at 12000 ft.... not impossible but improbable.
That would make more sense.... but from Dronedj "Sunday’s collision of the Embraer 175 passenger plane and a drone is one of the most alarming in a recent flurry of reported impacts and near-misses. Envoy Air’s flight ENY396 returned to O’Hare shortly after its regular 6:20 p.m. evening departure for Detroit, after pilots reported striking something at 12,000 feet. The plane landed safely with no injury to passengers or crew. Audio files of exchanges with air traffic control that night recorded pilots radioing in the collision shortly after it occurred. "12000'?
They reported striking it while climbing through 2500' MSL. They climbed to 6000' to burn off fuel weight before returning to the airport. KORD is at 680', so the drone was about 1820' AGL.
That would make more sense.... but from Dronedj "Sunday’s collision of the Embraer 175 passenger plane and a drone is one of the most alarming in a recent flurry of reported impacts and near-misses. Envoy Air’s flight ENY396 returned to O’Hare shortly after its regular 6:20 p.m. evening departure for Detroit, after pilots reported striking something at 12,000 feet. The plane landed safely with no injury to passengers or crew. Audio files of exchanges with air traffic control that night recorded pilots radioing in the collision shortly after it occurred. "
Seems a bit to "convenient" for them to say they hit a drone. Climbing past 2500' MSL - how fast are they going @ the time? Isn't the aircraft pitched up at this point? It was ~6:20 p.m. so the sun would be 'lower' in the sky, and behind them given they took off from on Runway 09C. Isn't there a transition time from take-off to flight, so they were doing things to make sure the plane was ready to go on to the destination? Plus still keeping a eye out for other aircraft since they were still close to O'Hare. It doesn't sound like had been handed off to the next ATC taking them out toward their destination. If they said they'd hit "something," that would have been different.
3600 meters altitude is pretty unlikely for a quad (with a hacked DJI or a DIY quad you'll burn the entire battery climbing that high, so you can be there for a minute maybe, and in that minute you hit a plane? XD)... but these days everything is caused by drones, even if they don't see the drone, it's a drone, always, no matter what ¬_¬U
Probably a bird, or maybe a ballon like those you use to put DIY weather stations in orbit... or a fixed wing, like a modified parrot disco, but pretty unlikely. Crashing mid air is not as easy as crashing in a bidimensional plane like a congested road.
Drone crashes at low altitude near the runaway?... yep, like the other day with the canadian policemen.
Drone crashes over wildfires? Yep, planes and copters flying low on a congested area, pretty likely to hit a drone recording the fires because they'll share lot of time in the same volume of airspace (50-120m)
Drone crashes at 3600 meters? Let me doubt that.
We even had a policeman a few months ago going after a "rogue drone" that was actually Jupiter... yep, the f* planet. Drones, drones everywhere ¬_¬U
Drones are an extremely marginal hobby, just like RC in general, and it's not going to change... so don't expect dronestorms anytime soon XD
Thanks for researching further. Seems like this incident gets more convoluted by the hour! ??I wrote to the author of this article mentioned is message #12 about the balloon report. His response - FAA Spokesman Tony Molinaro wrote in an email to me, "The FAA determined the object was a Mylar balloon."
That raises two questions.
Was the other aircrew report of a drone actually the same balloon?
Can a Mylar balloon cause the "minor damage" to the E175 that was reported?
Sure enough - I missed that! Thanks."Departure, Envoy 3169, we just hit something. I believe we just hit a drone about 30 seconds ago."
Sounds like you doubt that they hit a drone. What suggests another explanation for the damage to air airplane?
They'd just been advised of a drone in the area. As you point out, the sun was behind them, so visibility would be good ahead of them. And, as you say, they were keeping an eye out for other aircraft, probably specifically for the drone just reported.
MA2 317" data-source="post: 1302102" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch">Its always "May have hit a drone". This pilot just wants a night off to get some real sleepINCIDENT: Envoy E175 Collides With Drone In Chicago! - Mentour Pilot
An Envoy E175 hit a drone, as it climbed out of Chicago. The flight crew were able to return the aircraft for a safe landing, back in O’Hare.mentourpilot.com
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He said "May Have" which means May not have as well12000'?
They reported striking it while climbing through 2500' MSL. They climbed to 6000' to burn off fuel weight before returning to the airport. KORD is at 680', so the drone was about 1820' AGL.