Mavic 4 Pro Fly More Combo In Stock at B&H?

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I just got a very surprising email from B&H:

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[td]DJI Mavic 4 Pro Drone with Fly More Combo is now in stock!

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Wow! I've already got mine, but thought y'all might want to know.

 

[MS Coast]

At $3549, it's about 30% more than the $2700 or so figure from Asian sellers on eBay.

Do the Trump tariffs account for the difference? Has anyone heard a report of an actual purchase from Japan or China that included tariffs levied by US Customs?

 

[mavic3usa]

I believe MSRP is $2799 so that's a bit more than I want to pay....last month. This month? We have no idea yet if the tariffs have started to kick in on our favorite Japanese and Korea ebay sellers so this might turn out to be a good deal especially if you have Payboo and can defer $330 in sales tax.

Also it appears you can add Allstate protection (2 yrs) for $1000.

 

[iceman77]

I seen the M4P Fly More Combo on B&H Photo Video this morning, but I agree with MS Coast, its about $900 more to what I paid to my Korean seller over eBay. Of course, I was sh****g my pants, that this Korean version will be crippled version, transmission wise, using CE instead of FCC (which is known to have limited range) and RID not working, I am so happy that I was wrong in both cases. Of course, warranty applies to Korea, so if something happens to it, I would have to send it to the other side of the globe (like I had to do with my initial purchase) but I am a happy M4P owner! I just love that drone!

 

[KS-6]

Nice, they have parallel charging hubs, I ordered a spare!

 

[GadgetGuy]

All sold out quickly.
Still no Creator Combos, though.

 

[GadgetGuy]

I seen the M4P Fly More Combo on B&H Photo Video this morning, but I agree with MS Coast, its about $900 more to what I paid to my Korean seller over eBay. Of course, I was sh****g my pants, that this Korean version will be crippled version, transmission wise, using CE instead of FCC (which is known to have limited range) and RID not working, I am so happy that I was wrong in both cases. Of course, warranty applies to Korea, so if something happens to it, I would have to send it to the other side of the globe (like I had to do with my initial purchase) but I am a happy M4P owner! I just love that drone!

I was hoping RID wouldn’t be working so I could use an external module instead.
Alas!

 

[russellg]

All sold out quickly.
Still no Creator Combos, though.

I don't think they received any creator combos yet, my creator combo has be on backorder since May 13th, patiently waiting.

 

[iceman77]

I was hoping RID wouldn’t be working so I could use an external module instead.
Alas!

Honestly, after learning details what this RID does, especially the part that it is exposing not just drone, but pilot's location as well, I am not so happy to have it. I was first worried, that I would get penalized and my drone confiscated, if I get caught flying a non-compliant drone here in US, but now, knowing all this, I am not so sure...

 

[MS Coast]

Honestly, after learning details what this RID does, especially the part that it is exposing not just drone, but pilot's location as well, I am not so happy to have it. I was first worried, that I would get penalized and my drone confiscated, if I get caught flying a non-compliant drone here in US, but now, knowing all this, I am not so sure...

What is the concern about the takeoff location or pilot's location being transmitted? In the months prior to the implementation of RID requirements, there were concerns expressed by some that criminals would use RID to track down drone pilots and steal their gear or attack them. It seemed like another imagined threat to me and still does. I've still not heard of a single instance of that happening. Anyone?

It's highly unlikely that a person operating a drone without RID would be detected or confronted by the authorities. But if there was a serious accident and the pilot was operating without RID when it was required, the consequences might be significant.

 

[iceman77]

What is the concern about the takeoff location or pilot's location being transmitted? In the months prior to the implementation of RID requirements, there were concerns expressed by some that criminals would use RID to track down drone pilots and steal their gear or attack them. It seemed like another imagined threat to me and still does. I've still not heard of a single instance of that happening. Anyone?

It's highly unlikely that a person operating a drone without RID would be detected or confronted by the authorities. But if there was a serious accident and the pilot was operating without RID when it was required, the consequences might be significant.

That concern about criminals tracking me down and stealing my expensive gear, not to mention attacking me, is one of them. Or harassment and confrontation from individuals who are against drones or feel their privacy is violated. Me, personally, I fly my drone up high (cca 250-300ft) when flying it for fun out of my backyard, never stop or hover so no one complains that I am spying on them, but this RID pilot tracking still concerns me.

I have installed this Air Sentinel app on my Android phone just to see if my location, as pilot, is indeed being transmitted as part of RID, but it looks like you need to have an approved account with them to see that. And to open such account you need to state your agency (local law enforcement, private security firm etc), I assume they verify such requests, so any "hill billy joe" can't just request it and track me down. But, this is just one app, I am sure there must be others, that criminals can use, as if this info is indeed transmitted OTA it is a matter of implementing a listener for it. My 2 cents

 

[Dogpilot]

Not to do a neener, neener here, but I just got a Creator Combo off eBay for $4500 2 day FedEx. I was able to do it sales tax free as well. My son was in Oregon inspecting a dig for a couple of days. Had it shipped to the hotel there. I'll snag it from him in Denver next week. Got to fly the plane out for business anyhow.

I was going to wait until they eventually became available , but could not pass on the alignment of the stars and planets. Saving the sales tax made it the same as if they sold them for regular prices.

 

[GadgetGuy]

I don't think they received any creator combos yet, my creator combo has be on backorder since May 13th, patiently waiting.

Exactly!
While Adorama has been reliably getting the Creator Combo on their "Expected Arrival" schedule. I got mine from them. However, no notification email of "in stock" from B&H for the Creator Combo has ever been received by me either.

 

[GadgetGuy]

Not to do a neener, neener here, but I just got a Creator Combo off eBay for $4500 2 day FedEx. I was able to do it sales tax free as well. My son was in Oregon inspecting a dig for a couple of days. Had it shipped to the hotel there. I'll snag it from him in Denver next week. Got to fly the plane out for business anyhow.

I was going to wait until they eventually became available , but could not pass on the alignment of the stars and planets. Saving the sales tax made it the same as if they sold them for regular prices.
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Was this eBay seller in the U.S., flipping a Korean sourced unit, or were you able to get one directly from a Korean eBay seller where they now are charging $4500 to cover tariffs?

 

[Dogpilot]

The seller was in City of Industry in LA. Paid on Tuesday evening, delivered today. It was this guy, he also takes offers, which I did and he accepted:
Mavic 4 Creator on eBay

 

[mavic3usa]

Was this eBay seller in the U.S., flipping a Korean sourced unit, or were you able to get one directly from a Korean eBay seller where they now are charging $4500 to cover tariffs?

The seller was in City of Industry in LA. Paid on Tuesday evening, delivered today. It was this guy, he also takes offers, which I did and he accepted:
Mavic 4 Creator on eBay

I notice this seller has the following note on his listing:

"Mavic 4 Pro Drone is global version, not KR/South Korea version that may have issues with power adapters/Remote ID/FCC mode."

What is a "global" version, is that simply a non-Korean version? Does that mean he got it from Japan, do you know?

 

[Dogpilot]

No, what it means is the plug on your power adaptor. FCC mode is dependent on your GPS location. So if detects your in one of the low power areas, like Europe, you do not get FCC mode. RID type is also dependent on location.

 

[GadgetGuy]

I notice this seller has the following note on his listing:

"Mavic 4 Pro Drone is global version, not KR/South Korea version that may have issues with power adapters/Remote ID/FCC mode."

What is a "global" version, is that simply a non-Korean version? Does that mean he got it from Japan, do you know?

More importantly, is there still a possibility that the (KR) South Korean versions do not have the ability to broadcast RID in the U.S.? That would allow for use instead of an external RID module, that cannot update the pilot location after launch, if you then relocate, for pilot safety.

There must be a reason our three YT gurus cautioned that the KR versions do not broadcast RID, nor have FCC capability, corroborated by an international DJI rep on the phone, and now supported by this seller's disclaimer, and that of at least one of the Korean eBay sellers from whom I purchased.

We just need to explain why our one member with a Japanese sourced unit was, in fact, broadcasting RID. Bit of a fly in the ointment.

I'm reluctant to unbox either of my KR units to verify myself, until I know for certain that RID cannot be broadcast by them, as, otherwise, I intend upon reselling them as factory sealed units, as opposed to already activated, with motors armed, to verify no RID transmission, only to find out they are broadcasting RID, reducing their resale value, as used!

 

[GadgetGuy]

No, what it means is the plug on your power adaptor. FCC mode is dependent on your GPS location. So if detects your in one of the low power areas, like Europe, you do not get FCC mode. RID type is also dependent on location.

Can you clarify "RID type is dependent upon location?"

The KR/South Korean units have no need for RID broadcasting, as Korea has no RID requirement, and the boxes are specifically labeled as KR units on the serial number sticker.

Is there any possibility that DJI removed the RID modules from the KR labelled units?

If so, that would mean the KR/S. Korean units cannot broadcast RID, no matter what FW updates are installed, even when they are then flown in the U.S., because these KR labeled units are only intended for use in S. Korea.

Or, is it your belief that the necessary RID module is still present, even in the S. Korean units, and will broadcast compliant RID in the U.S., once activated here, as it is only requires a FW update to activate the RID transmission?

 

[UAVquadman]

Can you clarify "RID type is dependent upon location?"

The KR/South Korean units have no need for RID broadcasting, as Korea has no RID requirement, and the boxes are specifically labeled as KR units on the serial number sticker.

Is there any possibility that DJI removed the RID modules from the KR labelled units?

If so, that would mean the KR/S. Korean units cannot broadcast RID, no matter what FW updates are installed, even when they are then flown in the U.S., because these KR labeled units are only intended for use in S. Korea.

Or, is it your belief that the necessary RID module is still present, even in the S. Korean units, and will broadcast compliant RID in the U.S., once activated here, as it is only requires a FW update to activate the RID transmission?

DJI knows people travel to the USA often and bring there drones, plus they know S. Korea bulk buyers are selling them to the USA on eBay. If I was DJI for sure I would make RID work in the USA.