Question for Gyroflow users

akdrone · Oct 24, 2022

I have tried to use Gyroflow with a few drones but even my Avata results in a notice that "...no motion data was found. The camera probably doesn't record motion data..." which is silly. I can't find any document or manual for Gyroflow. Any tips appreciated.

slup · Oct 24, 2022

A simple Google search for "motion data DJI Avata" gave this ... think it will explain everything.

TwoSticks · Oct 24, 2022

Main points for the Avata is Wide view and EIS off.

Jagerbomb52 · Oct 24, 2022

Also it was updated 7 days ago so make sure your up to date.

akdrone · Oct 24, 2022

Much appreciated.

akdrone · Oct 24, 2022

I just did my first simple export of a 2min 12sec, 2.2GB, MP4 from my avata. The 4K export took 8 min on my 2017 iMac. Reasonably well tricked out for what it is, but... Sheesh. I'll return to Gryo after I get a new M2 notebook. As it stands, for the kind of shooting I do, if the export times are roughly 4x the filming time I can't deal with that. Maybe silicone will lower those export times. Till then it's good to know it's there but I'll be using the built in stabilization. Too bad. Thought it might be a real tool but unless I'm missing something it's just too slow for me. If it batched I could see a workflow of setting up a series of shots and hit it and go off and do something different but nah. Is 4x the shot time about how long others with pre-silicone machines?

TwoSticks · Oct 24, 2022

I have been using the built in stabilization as well. I have the same iMac since there have been no real updates (Pro aside) for the 27" size. I am holding out hope they may run with the 30" again. I have a long list of things to work on otherwise with learning video production, color grading, flying better and the list goes on but GyroFlow is installed and tried but at this time not in regular use. If no iMac next year MacBook will be the next option and might be anyhow for portability. Glad it worked at least.

Eagle Eye 62 · Oct 25, 2022

I am wondering why many folks think the Avata's built in stabilization is not sufficient? I am mean, sure you can always make things smoother through software, but personally, I don't see the need to use it in most scenarios, not to mention the extra time and hassle factor. Am I missing something?

TwoSticks · Oct 25, 2022

Eagle Eye 62 said:
I am wondering why many folks think the Avata's built in stabilization is not sufficient? I am mean, sure you can always make things smoother through software, but personally, I don't see the need to use it in most scenarios, not to mention the extra time and hassle factor. Am I missing something?

GyroFlow is superior but not for everyone. You can modify parts of the video, in parts, with more or less effect.

akdrone · Oct 25, 2022

Eagle Eye 62 said:
I am wondering why many folks think the Avata's built in stabilization is not sufficient? I am mean, sure you can always make things smoother through software, but personally, I don't see the need to use it in most scenarios, not to mention the extra time and hassle factor. Am I missing something?

The reason I am exploring Gyroflow is for the ability to choose the level of "rocksteady". After shooting a scene it may well be that I would like some wild unstabilized action or a minute later a steady look and gryroflow will allow you to make that decision in post. I have not yet really explored it. I'm going to Arizona for a desert drone vacation and trying to grasp it's usefulness so as to not waste time down there. I'm just at the "interested in it" stage. A huge downside for me is the time it takes. On my older 2017 iMac processing a Gyroflow file takes 4x the video shoot time. I'll have a tricked out Macbook Pro when the M2 are announced so that time issue will diminish at least somewhat.

slup · Oct 25, 2022

Eagle Eye 62 said:
...Am I missing something?

In the clip in post #2 between 0:30 & 1:40 he goes over some reasons why you might want to apply the stabilization in post.

Another is that in camera stabilization require reasonably sharp frames in the vid. meaning the shutter needs to be rather fast, can be a problem if you want motion blur, this can even be a problem when you try to follow the 180 degree rule, already that is to much blur for the internal stabilization to work properly. Also, if the internal stabilization fails ... you're stuck, you can't make it undone, the clip is destroyed.