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If you go look on skyvector right now there is a TFR for the 30th which I believe is the next launch window.
This is the normal launch TFR of late. Waaaay smaller than the VIP TFR.

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I was planning to fly my MA2 above my house to film the SpaceX Crew Dragon launch this happening in about an hour. However, when I checked for NOTAMs on 1800wxbrief.com, I discovered that my house is about 1 1/3 miles inside the temporary national defense no fly zone. ?

Here it is, just for laughs. The good parts are in red:

FL..AIRSPACE CAPE CANAVERAL, FL..TEMPORARY FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS. MAY 27, 2020 LOCAL. THIS NOTAM REPLACES NOTAM 0/1729 DUE TO CHANGE REGULATORY AUTHORITY AND ADDITION OF COORDINATION PHONE NUMBER IN PARAGRAPH A. PURSUANT TO 49 USC 40103(B)(3), THE FEDERAL AVIATION ADMINISTRATION (FAA) CLASSIFIES THE AIRSPACE DEFINED IN THIS NOTAM AS 'NATIONAL DEFENSE AIRSPACE'. PILOTS WHO DO NOT ADHERE TO THE FOLLOWING PROCEDURES MAY BE INTERCEPTED, DETAINED AND INTERVIEWED BY LAW ENFORCEMENT/SECURITY PERSONNEL. ANY OF THE FOLLOWING ADDITIONAL ACTIONS MAY ALSO BE TAKEN AGAINST A PILOT WHO DOES NOT COMPLY WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OR ANY SPECIAL INSTRUCTIONS OR PROCEDURES ANNOUNCED IN THIS NOTAM: A) THE FAA MAY TAKE ADMINISTRATIVE ACTION, INCLUDING IMPOSING CIVIL PENALTIES AND THE SUSPENSION OR REVOCATION OF AIRMEN CERTIFICATES; OR B) THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT MAY PURSUE CRIMINAL CHARGES, INCLUDING CHARGES UNDER TITLE 49 OF THE UNITED STATES CODE, SECTION 46307; OR C) THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT MAY USE DEADLY FORCE AGAINST THE AIRBORNE AIRCRAFT, IF IT IS DETERMINED THAT THE AIRCRAFT POSES AN IMMINENT SECURITY THREAT. PURSUANT TO TITLE 14, CODE OF FEDERAL REGULATIONS, SECTIONS 91.141 AND 99.7 SPECIAL SECURITY INSTRUCTIONS, ALL AIRCRAFT FLIGHT OPERATIONS ARE PROHIBITED WITHIN AN AREA DEFINED AS 40 NM RADIUS OF 283700N/0803700W (MLB009030.6) SFC-17999FT MSL EFFECTIVE 2005271630 UTC (1230 LOCAL 05/27/20) UNTIL 2005272130 UTC (1730 LOCAL 05/27/20). WITHIN AN AREA DEFINED AS 30 NM RADIUS OF 283700N/0803700W (MLB009030.6) SFC-17999FT MSL; EXCLUDING AN AREA DEFINED AS 285157N/0810725W (ORL030022.3) TO 285157N/0810200W (ORL039025) TO 284155N/0810200W (ORL060018.5) TO 284155N/0811116W (ORL040012.1) TO THE POINT OF ORIGIN. SFC-2000FT MSL EFFECTIVE 2005271630 UTC (1230 LOCAL 05/27/20) UNTIL 2005272130 UTC (1730 LOCAL 05/27/20). EXCEPT AS SPECIFIED BELOW AND/OR UNLESS AUTHORIZED BY ATC IN CONSULTATION WITH THE AIR TRAFFIC SECURITY COORDINATOR VIA THE DOMESTIC EVENTS NETWORK (DEN): A. ALL AIRCRAFT OPERATIONS WITHIN A 30 NMR AREA LISTED ABOVE, KNOWN AS THE INNER CORE, ARE PROHIBITED EXCEPT FOR: MILITARY AIRCRAFT IN SUPPORT OF LAUNCH ACTIVITIES, AIRCRAFT ASSOCIATED WITH CAPE CANAVERAL OPERATIONS, RESCUE/RECOVERY AIRCRAFT, APPROVED LAW ENFORCEMENT, APPROVED AIR AMBULANCE FLIGHTS, APPROVED FIRE FIGHTING OPERATIONS AND FLIGHTS APPROVED THROUGH THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF STATE. ALSO, REGULARLY SCHEDULED COMMERCIAL PASSENGER AND ALL-CARGO CARRIERS OPERATING UNDER ONE OF THE FOLLOWING TSA-APPROVED STANDARD SECURITY PROGRAMS/PROCEDURES: AIRCRAFT OPERATOR STANDARD SECURITY PROGRAM (AOSSP), FULL ALL-CARGO AIRCRAFT OPERATOR STANDARD SECURITY PROGRAM (FACAOSSP), MODEL SECURITY PROGRAM (MSP), TWELVE FIVE STANDARD SECURITY PROGRAM (TFSSP) ALL CARGO, OR ALL-CARGO INTERNATIONAL SECURITY PROCEDURE (ACISP) AND ARE ARRIVING INTO AND/OR DEPARTING FROM 14 CFR PART 139 AIRPORTS. ALL EMERGENCY/LIFE SAVING FLIGHT (MEDICAL/LAW ENFORCEMENT/FIREFIGHTING) OPERATIONS MUST COORDINATE WITH ATC PRIOR TO THEIR DEPARTURE AT 407-852-7553 TO AVOID POTENTIAL DELAYS. B. FOR OPERATIONS WITHIN THE AIRSPACE BETWEEN THE 30 NMR AND 40 NMR AREA(S) LISTED ABOVE, KNOWN AS THE OUTER RING: 1. ALL AIRCRAFT OPERATING WITHIN THE OUTER RING(S) LISTED ABOVE ARE LIMITED TO AIRCRAFT ARRIVING OR DEPARTING LOCAL AIRFIELDS, AND WORKLOAD PERMITTING, ATC MAY AUTHORIZE TRANSIT OPERATIONS. AIRCRAFT MAY NOT LOITER. ALL AIRCRAFT MUST BE ON AN ACTIVE IFR OR FILED VFR FLIGHT PLAN WITH A DISCRETE CODE ASSIGNED BY AN AIR TRAFFIC CONTROL (ATC) FACILITY. AIRCRAFT MUST BE SQUAWKING THE DISCRETE CODE PRIOR TO DEPARTURE AND AT ALL TIMES WHILE IN THE TFR AND MUST REMAIN IN TWO-WAY RADIO COMMUNICATIONS WITH ATC. 2. ALL VFR AIRCRAFT OPERATIONS WITHIN THE 30 TO 40 NM RADIUS TFR ARE RESTRICTED TO AN INDICATED AIRSPEED OF 180 KNOTS OR LESS, IF CAPABLE. IF UNABLE, THE PILOT MUST CONTACT THE APPROPRIATE ATC FACILITY AND ADVISE THEM OF THE AIRCRAFT'S OPERATIONAL LIMITATIONS. C. THE FOLLOWING OPERATIONS ARE NOT AUTHORIZED WITHIN THIS TFR: FLIGHT TRAINING, PRACTICE INSTRUMENT APPROACHES, AEROBATIC FLIGHT, GLIDER OPERATIONS, SEAPLANE OPERATIONS, PARACHUTE OPERATIONS, ULTRALIGHT, HANG GLIDING, BALLOON OPERATIONS, AGRICULTURE/CROP DUSTING, ANIMAL POPULATION CONTROL FLIGHT OPERATIONS, BANNER TOWING OPERATIONS, SIGHTSEEING OPERATIONS, MAINTENANCE TEST FLIGHTS, MODEL AIRCRAFT OPERATIONS, MODEL ROCKETRY, UNMANNED AIRCRAFT SYSTEMS (UAS), AND UTILITY AND PIPELINE SURVEY OPERATIONS. D. UAS OPERATORS WHO DO NOT COMPLY WITH APPLICABLE AIRSPACE RESTRICTIONS ARE WARNED THAT PURSUANT TO 10 U.S.C. SECTION 130I AND 6 U.S.C. SECTION 124N, THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE (DOD), THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY (DHS) OR THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE (DOJ) MAY TAKE SECURITY ACTION THAT RESULTS IN THE INTERFERENCE, DISRUPTION, SEIZURE, DAMAGING, OR DESTRUCTION OF UNMANNED AIRCRAFT DEEMED TO POSE A CREDIBLE SAFETY OR SECURITY THREAT TO PROTECTED PERSONNEL, FACILITIES, OR ASSETS. E. FAA RECOMMENDS THAT ALL AIRCRAFT OPERATORS CHECK NOTAMS FREQUENTLY FOR POSSIBLE CHANGES TO THIS TFR PRIOR TO OPERATIONS WITHIN THIS REGION. F. THE 1ST RANGE OPERATION SQUADRON, /45 SPACE WING/, TELEPHONE 321-853-5936, IS IN CHARGE OF THE OPERATION. 202005271630-202005272130
Yup?
 
If you go look on skyvector right now there is a TFR for the 30th which I believe is the next launch window.
This is the normal launch TFR of late. Waaaay smaller than the VIP TFR.

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I think that the TFR zone expands to the west, forming a circle around the launch site, on the day of the launch.
 
@Halcyon New TFR just came out. They just locked down all of Florida from the surface to 17,999 feet.
New TFR
 
@msstdenis According to the text, the TFR extends to a 40nm radius, and another at a 30nm radius. I don't understand why the interactive map shows the entire state being restricted. That doesn't seem likely.
 
lol it's not all of florida - just go look on skyvector.com it's free.
And those do not kick in until saturday at noon.
If you are in this TFR it would be interesting to see if DJI knows about it. - I'm thinking no because they might have to download a new geo file. Start your AC and see if you get locked out.



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Both round ones are VIP. If you click on the outer part it will tell you it's purpose. If you double click it it will goto the TFR text.
 
lol it's not all of florida - just go look on skyvector.com it's free.
And those do not kick in until saturday at noon.
If you are in this TFR it would be interesting to see if DJI knows about it. - I'm thinking no because they might have to download a new geo file. Start your AC and see if you get locked out.



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lol it's not all of florida - just go look on skyvector.com it's free.
And those do not kick in until saturday at noon.
If you are in this TFR it would be interesting to see if DJI knows about it. - I'm thinking no because they might have to download a new geo file. Start your AC and see if you get locked out.



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I actually did start my AC, twice, about 30 minutes before the launch was scheduled. The first time, the controller beeped incessantly but there was no warning in the app. I turned everything off, and on again a few minutes later. There was no beeping or warning message at all. I initiated a launch, but shut it down before the AC became airborne.
 
I actually did start my AC, twice, about 30 minutes before the launch was scheduled. The first time, the controller beeped incessantly but there was no warning in the app. I turned everything off, and on again a few minutes later. There was no beeping or warning message at all. I initiated a launch, but shut it down before the AC became airborne.
Just as I suspected DJ I can’t handle TFRs
Please don’t take off I don’t want to come visit you in jail.
 
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Once again, at the distance you are from the launch site any camera with a wide FOV will only show the rocket as a dot, you need a telephoto lens and preferably a big one from that distance. And, if the camera in the MA2 is not appropriate then the even wider FOV of a GoPro is even less appropriate.


Brian
 
Once again, at the distance you are from the launch site any camera with a wide FOV will only show the rocket as a dot, you need a telephoto lens and preferably a big one from that distance. And, if the camera in the MA2 is not appropriate then the even wider FOV of a GoPro is even less appropriate.


Brian
I'm aware of that having been a professional photographer longer than I care to admit. This is just for fun.
 
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I was planning to fly my MA2 above my house to film the SpaceX Crew Dragon launch this happening in about an hour. However, when I checked for NOTAMs on 1800wxbrief.com, I discovered that my house is about 1 1/3 miles inside the temporary national defense no fly zone. ?

Here it is, just for laughs. The good parts are in red:

FL..AIRSPACE CAPE CANAVERAL, FL..TEMPORARY FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS. MAY 27, 2020 LOCAL. THIS NOTAM REPLACES NOTAM 0/1729 DUE TO CHANGE REGULATORY AUTHORITY AND ADDITION OF COORDINATION PHONE NUMBER IN PARAGRAPH A. PURSUANT TO 49 USC 40103(B)(3), THE FEDERAL AVIATION ADMINISTRATION (FAA) CLASSIFIES THE AIRSPACE DEFINED IN THIS NOTAM AS 'NATIONAL DEFENSE AIRSPACE'. PILOTS WHO DO NOT ADHERE TO THE FOLLOWING PROCEDURES MAY BE INTERCEPTED, DETAINED AND INTERVIEWED BY LAW ENFORCEMENT/SECURITY PERSONNEL. ANY OF THE FOLLOWING ADDITIONAL ACTIONS MAY ALSO BE TAKEN AGAINST A PILOT WHO DOES NOT COMPLY WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OR ANY SPECIAL INSTRUCTIONS OR PROCEDURES ANNOUNCED IN THIS NOTAM: A) THE FAA MAY TAKE ADMINISTRATIVE ACTION, INCLUDING IMPOSING CIVIL PENALTIES AND THE SUSPENSION OR REVOCATION OF AIRMEN CERTIFICATES; OR B) THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT MAY PURSUE CRIMINAL CHARGES, INCLUDING CHARGES UNDER TITLE 49 OF THE UNITED STATES CODE, SECTION 46307; OR C) THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT MAY USE DEADLY FORCE AGAINST THE AIRBORNE AIRCRAFT, IF IT IS DETERMINED THAT THE AIRCRAFT POSES AN IMMINENT SECURITY THREAT. PURSUANT TO TITLE 14, CODE OF FEDERAL REGULATIONS, SECTIONS 91.141 AND 99.7 SPECIAL SECURITY INSTRUCTIONS, ALL AIRCRAFT FLIGHT OPERATIONS ARE PROHIBITED WITHIN AN AREA DEFINED AS 40 NM RADIUS OF 283700N/0803700W (MLB009030.6) SFC-17999FT MSL EFFECTIVE 2005271630 UTC (1230 LOCAL 05/27/20) UNTIL 2005272130 UTC (1730 LOCAL 05/27/20). WITHIN AN AREA DEFINED AS 30 NM RADIUS OF 283700N/0803700W (MLB009030.6) SFC-17999FT MSL; EXCLUDING AN AREA DEFINED AS 285157N/0810725W (ORL030022.3) TO 285157N/0810200W (ORL039025) TO 284155N/0810200W (ORL060018.5) TO 284155N/0811116W (ORL040012.1) TO THE POINT OF ORIGIN. SFC-2000FT MSL EFFECTIVE 2005271630 UTC (1230 LOCAL 05/27/20) UNTIL 2005272130 UTC (1730 LOCAL 05/27/20). EXCEPT AS SPECIFIED BELOW AND/OR UNLESS AUTHORIZED BY ATC IN CONSULTATION WITH THE AIR TRAFFIC SECURITY COORDINATOR VIA THE DOMESTIC EVENTS NETWORK (DEN): A. ALL AIRCRAFT OPERATIONS WITHIN A 30 NMR AREA LISTED ABOVE, KNOWN AS THE INNER CORE, ARE PROHIBITED EXCEPT FOR: MILITARY AIRCRAFT IN SUPPORT OF LAUNCH ACTIVITIES, AIRCRAFT ASSOCIATED WITH CAPE CANAVERAL OPERATIONS, RESCUE/RECOVERY AIRCRAFT, APPROVED LAW ENFORCEMENT, APPROVED AIR AMBULANCE FLIGHTS, APPROVED FIRE FIGHTING OPERATIONS AND FLIGHTS APPROVED THROUGH THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF STATE. ALSO, REGULARLY SCHEDULED COMMERCIAL PASSENGER AND ALL-CARGO CARRIERS OPERATING UNDER ONE OF THE FOLLOWING TSA-APPROVED STANDARD SECURITY PROGRAMS/PROCEDURES: AIRCRAFT OPERATOR STANDARD SECURITY PROGRAM (AOSSP), FULL ALL-CARGO AIRCRAFT OPERATOR STANDARD SECURITY PROGRAM (FACAOSSP), MODEL SECURITY PROGRAM (MSP), TWELVE FIVE STANDARD SECURITY PROGRAM (TFSSP) ALL CARGO, OR ALL-CARGO INTERNATIONAL SECURITY PROCEDURE (ACISP) AND ARE ARRIVING INTO AND/OR DEPARTING FROM 14 CFR PART 139 AIRPORTS. ALL EMERGENCY/LIFE SAVING FLIGHT (MEDICAL/LAW ENFORCEMENT/FIREFIGHTING) OPERATIONS MUST COORDINATE WITH ATC PRIOR TO THEIR DEPARTURE AT 407-852-7553 TO AVOID POTENTIAL DELAYS. B. FOR OPERATIONS WITHIN THE AIRSPACE BETWEEN THE 30 NMR AND 40 NMR AREA(S) LISTED ABOVE, KNOWN AS THE OUTER RING: 1. ALL AIRCRAFT OPERATING WITHIN THE OUTER RING(S) LISTED ABOVE ARE LIMITED TO AIRCRAFT ARRIVING OR DEPARTING LOCAL AIRFIELDS, AND WORKLOAD PERMITTING, ATC MAY AUTHORIZE TRANSIT OPERATIONS. AIRCRAFT MAY NOT LOITER. ALL AIRCRAFT MUST BE ON AN ACTIVE IFR OR FILED VFR FLIGHT PLAN WITH A DISCRETE CODE ASSIGNED BY AN AIR TRAFFIC CONTROL (ATC) FACILITY. AIRCRAFT MUST BE SQUAWKING THE DISCRETE CODE PRIOR TO DEPARTURE AND AT ALL TIMES WHILE IN THE TFR AND MUST REMAIN IN TWO-WAY RADIO COMMUNICATIONS WITH ATC. 2. ALL VFR AIRCRAFT OPERATIONS WITHIN THE 30 TO 40 NM RADIUS TFR ARE RESTRICTED TO AN INDICATED AIRSPEED OF 180 KNOTS OR LESS, IF CAPABLE. IF UNABLE, THE PILOT MUST CONTACT THE APPROPRIATE ATC FACILITY AND ADVISE THEM OF THE AIRCRAFT'S OPERATIONAL LIMITATIONS. C. THE FOLLOWING OPERATIONS ARE NOT AUTHORIZED WITHIN THIS TFR: FLIGHT TRAINING, PRACTICE INSTRUMENT APPROACHES, AEROBATIC FLIGHT, GLIDER OPERATIONS, SEAPLANE OPERATIONS, PARACHUTE OPERATIONS, ULTRALIGHT, HANG GLIDING, BALLOON OPERATIONS, AGRICULTURE/CROP DUSTING, ANIMAL POPULATION CONTROL FLIGHT OPERATIONS, BANNER TOWING OPERATIONS, SIGHTSEEING OPERATIONS, MAINTENANCE TEST FLIGHTS, MODEL AIRCRAFT OPERATIONS, MODEL ROCKETRY, UNMANNED AIRCRAFT SYSTEMS (UAS), AND UTILITY AND PIPELINE SURVEY OPERATIONS. D. UAS OPERATORS WHO DO NOT COMPLY WITH APPLICABLE AIRSPACE RESTRICTIONS ARE WARNED THAT PURSUANT TO 10 U.S.C. SECTION 130I AND 6 U.S.C. SECTION 124N, THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE (DOD), THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY (DHS) OR THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE (DOJ) MAY TAKE SECURITY ACTION THAT RESULTS IN THE INTERFERENCE, DISRUPTION, SEIZURE, DAMAGING, OR DESTRUCTION OF UNMANNED AIRCRAFT DEEMED TO POSE A CREDIBLE SAFETY OR SECURITY THREAT TO PROTECTED PERSONNEL, FACILITIES, OR ASSETS. E. FAA RECOMMENDS THAT ALL AIRCRAFT OPERATORS CHECK NOTAMS FREQUENTLY FOR POSSIBLE CHANGES TO THIS TFR PRIOR TO OPERATIONS WITHIN THIS REGION. F. THE 1ST RANGE OPERATION SQUADRON, /45 SPACE WING/, TELEPHONE 321-853-5936, IS IN CHARGE OF THE OPERATION. 202005271630-202005272130
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