Controller

shawgod · Feb 16, 2023

Will this controller work with both the Mini 2 and Air 2S? I am looking at a a all in one controller for both.

DJI Smart Controller https://a.co/d/9FgLGU6

Ken1403 · Feb 16, 2023

Yes but will need to be PAIRED each time you switch aircraft.

shawgod · Feb 16, 2023

Is that hard?

Ken1403 · Feb 16, 2023

No but some say it is a PIA but i think it is quick and easy.

TruGreen · Feb 16, 2023

you turn the remote and drone on then go into the remote setting to link drone. remote will start beeping then you press and hold the power button on the drone for a few seconds it too will beep then the remote stops beeping and say linking complete and you should see image from drone on screen. its not hard but needs to be done each and every time you switch

moldorf · Feb 16, 2023

Ken1403 said:
Yes but will need to be PAIRED each time you switch aircraft.

which would be a problem if you didn't have an internet connection....correct?

Yorkshire_Pud · Feb 16, 2023

moldorf said:
which would be a problem if you didn't have an internet connection....correct?

The internet connection is only needed if you want to undo bindings and make new bindings.

Someone correct me if I am wrong but isn't it the idea that the smart controller will, once it has been linked to a drone, remembers that linking and, even if used with another drone in between times, it still remembers the linking and will automatically link to the drone when not actively linked to another controller.

Compatibity = DJI Smart Controller - DJI
Manual = https://dl.djicdn.com/downloads/smart controller/20210930/DJI_Smart_Controller_User_Manual_EN_202109.pdf

Bill Dunnuck · Feb 17, 2023

I use the Smart Controller with both my Mini 2 and Air 2. Works just fine. I don’t have an Air 2s. I wish I could use the SC with my Mini 3 Pro but need to switch to RC for that.

Ken1403 · Feb 17, 2023

Yorkshire_Pud said:
The internet connection is only needed if you want to undo bindings and make new bindings.

Someone correct me if I am wrong but isn't it the idea that the smart controller will, once it has been linked to a drone, remembers that linking and, even if used with another drone in between times, it still remembers the linking and will automatically link to the drone when not actively linked to another controller.

Compatibity = DJI Smart Controller - DJI
Manual = https://dl.djicdn.com/downloads/smart controller/20210930/DJI_Smart_Controller_User_Manual_EN_202109.pdf

The smart controller can be paired to only one aircraft at a time and that is what some say is a PIA. You add aircraft in AIRCREFT MANAGEMENT but if you change aircraft you MUST PAIR every time.

Yorkshire_Pud · Feb 17, 2023

This is what I meant.

zeusfl · Feb 17, 2023

shawgod said:
Will this controller work with both the Mini 2 and Air 2S? I am looking at a a all in one controller for both.

DJI Smart Controller https://a.co/d/9FgLGU6

$819 is way too much money for that age controller. If you decide to upgrade your drone for example Mavic 3, Classic, Air 2S, Mini 3, or Mini 3 pro, you can not bind this drone with that controller except for the Air 2S.

If I am you, I will get the DJI RC or DJI RC Pro for the Air 2S and forget the Mini2.

zeusfl · Feb 17, 2023

Or you can get a used smart controller for less.

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Yorkshire_Pud · Feb 17, 2023

Just a point, eBay's T&C over rules any conditions placed in the abvert by the seller ...... or at least they do in the UK and it seems that ebay's definition of used is

"Used: An item that has been used previously. The item may have some signs of cosmetic wear, but is fully operational and functions as intended. This item may be a floor model or store return that has been used. See the seller’s listing for full details and description of any imperfections. See all condition definitions"

moldorf · Feb 17, 2023

Yorkshire_Pud said:
This is what I meant.

I'm not positive, but it looks like each time he switches drones, the controller reboots and it may be that part of the reboot requires an internet connection

that video is also over 3 years old and I thought I recall somebody saying that an update of the DJI Fly app made it next to impossible to switch between drones without an internet connection. But maybe that's wrong

I'd wonder if the RC-Pro allows you to have several drones bound at the same time and to be able to switch between them without internet. I spend a lot of time in remote areas without any internet at all. So any block on switching would be a non-starter

Yorkshire_Pud · Feb 17, 2023

I think the reboot is due to it switching apps, between possibly Pilot and Go4 and back to Pilot. As far as I saw he did not have to trigger linking on any of the drones
I have certainly switched a lesser controller, an RC231, between 3 mini 2s and wifi was unavailable and switched off, and the phone has no sim card but with each swap I had to trigger linking on both the drone and the controller.

zeusfl · Feb 17, 2023

Is my understanding that the switch is because the controller needs to set the firmware according to the drone. Each of the technologies has a different amount of dbm of transmission power and the controller to complain with FCC/CE specs for each unit needs to be adjusted. This is why an Allientech or booster is illegal since the change in the specs of transmission from the FCC/CE license for the unit. If any expert can confirm the statement will be appreciated. I know there is more technology involved on this other then the power that transmit but this explain why they change firmware each time you change from drone to drone.

Video Transmission System
DJI RC adopts OcuSync HD video transmission technology. When connected to other compatible drone models, DJI RC will switch to the corresponding video transmission technology.
With different aircraft hardware, the corresponding video transmission specifications are as follows:
DJI Mini 3 Pro: O3
DJI Mavic 3 Classic: O3+
DJI Mavic 3: O3+
DJI Mavic 3 Cine: O3+
DJI Air 2S: O3
Max. Transmission Distance (unobstructed, free of interference)
DJI Mini 3 Pro: 12 km (FCC); 8 km (CE/SRRC/MIC)
DJI Mavic 3 Classic: 15 km (FCC); 8 km (CE/SRRC/MIC)
DJI Mavic 3: 15 km (FCC); 8 km (CE/SRRC/MIC)
DJI Mavic 3 Cine: 15 km (FCC); 8 km (CE/SRRC/MIC)
DJI Air 2S: 12 km (FCC); 8 km (CE/SRRC/MIC)
Operating Frequency*
2.400-2.4835 GHz; 5.725-5.850 GHz
Antennas
2 antennas, 1T2R
Transmitter Power (EIRP)
2.400-2.4835 GHz: <26 dBm (FCC), <20 dBm (CE/SRRC/MIC)
5.725-5.850 GHz: <26 dBm (FCC), <23 dBm (SRRC), <14 dBm (CE)

zeusfl · Feb 17, 2023

Ocusync 2.0

Protocol	2.4GHZ	5.8GHz	Max Transmission Bitrate	Latency (Depending On Environmental Conditions)
FCC	≤26 dBm	≤26 dBm	12mbps	720p@30fps/1080@p30fps ≤ 120ms
CE	≤20 dBm	≤14 dBm	12mbps	720p@30fps/1080@p30fps ≤ 120ms
SRRC	≤20 dBm	≤26 dBm	12mbps	720p@30fps/1080@p30fps ≤ 120ms
MIC	≤20 dBm		12mbps	720p@30fps/1080@p30fps ≤ 120ms

OcuSync 3.0

Protocol	2.4GHZ	5.8GHz	Max Transmission Bitrate	Latency (Depending On Environmental Conditions)
FCC	≤ 31.5dBm	≤ 31.5dBm	50mbps	Low-Latency Mode: 810p/120fps ≤ 28ms High-Quality Mode: 810p/60fps ≤ 40ms
CE	≤20 dBm	≤14 dBm	50mbps	Low-Latency Mode: 810p/120fps ≤ 28ms High-Quality Mode: 810p/60fps ≤ 40ms
SRRC	≤20 dBm	≤25.5 dBm	50mbps	Low-Latency Mode: 810p/120fps ≤ 28ms High-Quality Mode: 810p/60fps ≤ 40ms
MIC	≤20 dBm		50mbps	Low-Latency Mode: 810p/120fps ≤ 28ms High-Quality Mode: 810p/60fps ≤ 40ms