Curious if I can fly in this area (UK)

[irpnetgb]

Pay NO attention to the "noflydrone" site. Its NOT official and absolutely anyone can just email them and get their garden/house/swimming pool/outdoor toilet listed as a no-fly zone.
Use the official NATs source which is DroneAssist (via Altitude Angel data). Definitely do not rely on DJIs inbuilt geomap as its horrifically inaccurate.

The noflydrone site can safely be ignored. Its dishonest in claiming there are no-fly zones.

Just make sure you have the correct filters applied on DroneAssist or you'll mistakingly think there are more nofly areas than there actually are.

"Definitely do not rely on DJIs inbuilt geomap as its horrifically inaccurate." - I would agree to a point. It may indeed be inaccurate (I have a demolished prison nearby, but it still shows as a NFZ), but your drone (DJI) will not allow you to fly on no fly zones in it's database, or may require you to get authorisation before allowing you to fly.

 

[RonW]

I hated all the inconsistencies with the different maps when I got my Mavic Mini it was stressing me out trying to make sure I was compliant.

First I checked the Drone Assist App:

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At this point I was thinking "Just return the Drone and get your money back"

Then the UAV Forcast App:

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Not as bad but clearly missing the airport south of Chester.

The DJI Fly app:

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This made much more sense (and included the Airport in Chester)

Ultimately it is the fly app that controls where you can fly so if that allows you to fly or not. I email Liverpool Airport to ask for guidance for the main area I was going to fly in and got a private response from one of the staff that said what basically matched what the DJI Fly app says. The only other thing is that the massive red area show in the Drone Assist app is due to Helicopter travel around the region (not including a few other things like Schools, Government Offices etc). All of this backed by the Drone code. They said this before I informed them that my drone was 249g.

What I do now is Declare the flight on Drone Assist, Check Flightradar24 for any scheduled active helicopters flights, and keep a close eye on my bird so that is I get hit by interference I know what's going on.

I have also added the full KML data set showing everything into Google Earth so that when I plan to go somewhere I can check terrain and no-fly info ahead of time to be sure.

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DATASET HERE: NATS-UK.ead-it.com

Now sure if any of that even helps; it was more me just ranting about all the crazy differnces in the map data..... but there it is all the same.

My advice, spend the money, get the Drone and find a place, it will be all good and fun (Well until November when the CAA send out the no-fun police for people)

Hi, where do you normally fly your bird? I live in Wirral near to where the lowest map shows. I usually fly on west and north coast of Wirral with my M1P.
Max height you can fly around area west of Eastham Country Park is 60mtrs, due to runway extension zone shown in lower map, aircraft usually pass over here when landing. I find the DJI geo mapping better, although I use Litchi 99.9% of time.

 

[gnirtS]

Both DJI and Litch will allow you to fly in many places that are illegal. NATS/Altitude angel is the official data.

Just a few examples:-





Screenshots of DJI Geo than Altitude Angel Drone Assist for the Dover area.

Note a few things, Lydd airport is a real airport, is active, busy, has a no fly zone but Geo doesnt show it.
Port of dover has a permanent exclusion zone around it for 1.5nm radius, shown on AA but not Geo.
The absolutely HUGE flight restriction zone in the channel (for border force BVLOS droes escorting in illegals) is a no-drone area and no shown on Geo.

The NFZ around the nuclear power plant is on AA but doesnt existon Geo.

There are lots of small examples on the same shot.

Another example, Swansea airport in the UK. Its a popular, busy airport with lots of GA and low level traffic in a scenic area.





Although Geo shows the airport it has no restriction or no-fly zones. The actual real map shows plenty of no-fly areas.

Pretty much everywhere in the UK is this. Geo has data for the bigger places (and some outdated data) but its coverage is extremely poor and will allow you to unknowingly fly illegally (hence committing an offence with fairly hefty fines now).

 

[SMLP]

Hi, where do you normally fly your bird? I live in Wirral near to where the lowest map shows. I usually fly on west and north coast of Wirral with my M1P.
Max height you can fly around area west of Eastham Country Park is 60mtrs, due to runway extension zone shown in lower map, aircraft usually pass over here when landing. I find the DJI geo mapping better, although I use Litchi 99.9% of time.

I’ve been flying in Eastham Country Park (under 60m) and also around the M53 just south of Eastham Ferry...

Thurstaston seems to be best place to fly locally over the Dee; but I have only been there once.

 

[stum]

Hi there,
Just been reading through this thread as I’m thinking of buying a drone, mostly photography/film making, for fun. Probably going to get the DJI mini 3 pro…incase it makes a difference. My Dad is RC made and belongs to a club with a field about 30 miles from me so I’ll have somewhere to practice and learn with lots of experienced flyers. What I wanted to ask is, as I live in area that is smack bang in the middle of an ATZ (Pembrey Airport- base for Dyfed-Powys Police helicopter) and Pembrey Danger Zone (Chinook’s, Eurofighters, Tornadoes, Hawks, Hercules and lots of live fire and general low level shenanigans) will I still be able to fly here? Nothing suggests NFZ (according to Drone Assist), is it that I will need to check, via the contact numbers for these areas the times/days when it is safe to do so? Will the DJI be restricted in this area by its program? I realise this thread is quite old so apologies if I’ve posted in the wrong place, just seemed as though people were talking sense on here. Sorry for long post too. Stu