Do we have a problem with low flying airliners in the US?

[MA2 317]

I'm not in a bad area, am I?

"We'll visit you soon." .


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[MS Coast]

I'm not in a bad area, am I?

No.

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[mkg89]

No.

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It's not like I can illegally break that height anyway DJI is too strict

 

[MS Coast]

It's not like I can illegally break that height anyway DJI is too strict

What altitude limit?

 

[mkg89]

What altitude limit?

My house is right in the flight path of the airport even though the airport is 13 mi away, the usual 150m.

 

[MS Coast]

My house is right in the flight path of the airport even though the airport is 13 mi away, the usual 150m.

Don't you mean 120m/400' AGL?

DJi doesn't limit the drone's altitude in Class G airspace.
[EDIT: The Fly Safe system my restrict altitude in areas extended beyond airport runways that DJI defines.]

 

[mkg89]

What altitude limit?

My house is right in the flight path of the airport even though the airport is 13 mi away, the usual 150m

Don't you mean 120m/400' AGL?

DJi doesn't limit the drone's altitude in Class G airspace.

It says flight altitude limited to 150m

 

[mavic3usa]

My house is right in the flight path of the airport even though the airport is 13 mi away, the usual 150m

It says flight altitude limited to 150m

Curious warning : Altitude zone, 150 meters

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[mkg89]

Curious warning : Altitude zone, 150 meters

Screenshot_20210918-170609.jpg (1.65 MB, Down times: 5) Download attach 2021-9-26 Upload 150 meter altitude zone? Um, here in USA, we can't fly higher than 120 anyhow

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I know that. It tells me when I get to 393. I'm just saying, it says 150 meters so I'll say 150 meter because........that's what it says. Friend of mine went all the way up and it stopped him just shy of 500 feet. I was like hmmm. Might have someone knocking on your door soon lol

Curious warning : Altitude zone, 150 meters

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Just out of curiosity. Why let us go to 150 meters if the legal limit is 120? Same reason a vehicle can do 100 if the speed limit is 80? Also, where are the uncontrolled flight zones, and can you go over 150 meters there? I'm new to all this stuff and asking genuine questions.

 

[mavic3usa]

I know that. It tells me when I get to 393. I'm just saying, it says 150 meters so I'll say 150 meter because........that's what it says. Friend of mine went all the way up and it stopped him just shy of 500 feet. I was like hmmm. Might have someone knocking on your door soon lol

Just out of curiosity. Why let us go to 150 meters if the legal limit is 120? Same reason a vehicle can do 100 if the speed limit is 80? Also, where are the uncontrolled flight zones, and can you go over 150 meters there? I'm new to all this stuff and asking genuine questions.

I don't have all the answers for you but I'm curious if you have taken the TRUST test or not? The reason I ask is your statement and the fact that you said you live near an airport made me think about LAANC and honestly, I think you should be more concerned with LAANC before you dive into the world of altitude/AGL/limits which is going to be a bit more complex and a little bit more involved to get into. Don't get me wrong, it's all important and it's mostly all covered in the TRUST (which I personally don't believe is adequate or suitable) but to be specific, there are no "uncontrolled flight zones where you can go over 150 meters" meaning even in Class G, you have a 400' AGL.

 

[mkg89]

I don't have all the answers for you but I'm curious if you have taken the TRUST test or not? The reason I ask is your statement and the fact that you said you live near an airport made me think about LAANC and honestly, I think you should be more concerned with LAANC before you dive into the world of altitude/AGL/limits which is going to be a bit more complex and a little bit more involved to get into. Don't get me wrong, it's all important and it's mostly all covered in the TRUST (which I personally don't believe is adequate or suitable) but to be specific, there are no "uncontrolled flight zones where you can go over 150 meters" meaning even in Class G, you have a 400' AGL.

Yes I have. But I'm curious as to what others have to say because trust is kind of.....for lack of a better word. Bland. And I asked that question because in the DJI app it shows that path and says "approaching the edge of altitude zone" I believe is what it said. But that app link you gave me shows I'm not in said zone. So I'm kinda confused about the whole area.

I don't have all the answers for you but I'm curious if you have taken the TRUST test or not? The reason I ask is your statement and the fact that you said you live near an airport made me think about LAANC and honestly, I think you should be more concerned with LAANC before you dive into the world of altitude/AGL/limits which is going to be a bit more complex and a little bit more involved to get into. Don't get me wrong, it's all important and it's mostly all covered in the TRUST (which I personally don't believe is adequate or suitable) but to be specific, there are no "uncontrolled flight zones where you can go over 150 meters" meaning even in Class G, you have a 400' AGL.

Yes I have. But I'm curious as to what others have to say because trust is kind of.....for lack of a better word. Bland. And I asked that question because in the DJI app it shows that path and says "approaching the edge of altitude zone" I believe is what it said. But that app link you gave me shows I'm not in said zone. So I'm kinda confused about the whole area.

 

[mavic3usa]

Yes I have. But I'm curious as to what others have to say because trust is kind of.....for lack of a better word. Bland. And I asked that question because in the DJI app it shows that path and says "approaching the edge of altitude zone" I believe is what it said. But that app link you gave me shows I'm not in said zone. So I'm kinda confused about the whole area.

I did not provide the link (someone else did) but you may need to know that DJI data is not the same and often conflicts with data from other sources especially from the more popular and authorized drone apps. I would give those approved apps more priority but of course your drone cannot ignore what built-in DJI is telling it. If you live near an airport and you get a proper authorization via LAANC, then honestly nothing else matters (besides a possible TFR) except for simply making sure you give way to all manned aircraft.

The TRUST should have made it clear as a recreational pilot you are never authorized to fly your drone about 400' AGL in any class of airspace. I'm not sure what all is going on in that thread from the DJI public forum but you can see there are others who have the same concerns as you.

 

[mkg89]

I don't have all the answers for you but I'm curious if you have taken the TRUST test or not? The reason I ask is your statement and the fact that you said you live near an airport made me think about LAANC and honestly, I think you should be more concerned with LAANC before you dive into the world of altitude/AGL/limits which is going to be a bit more complex and a little bit more involved to get into. Don't get me wrong, it's all important and it's mostly all covered in the TRUST (which I personally don't believe is adequate or suitable) but to be specific, there are no "uncontrolled flight zones where you can go over 150 meters" meaning even in Class G, you have a 400' AGL.

Here's a better overview of the entire thing, I wasn't signed in so things were looking a little different on the map. I generally want to learn as much as I can both through tests and other more experienced people such as yourself. It's very easy for somebody not well versed in drones to just buy one and proceed to fly it not thinking of anything else such as trust test local laws neighbors getting mad for flying above them. There's a whole lot for me to learn, and without forums and Google searches is very easy to not understand the extent of it all.

 

[MA2 317]

Just out of curiosity. Why let us go to 150 meters if the legal limit is 120?

Here's an example that may help.

I would fly from the shore line of a lake in the valley surrounded by hills that are much higher than 400' above the launch point from the shoreline.

As a recreational pilot you're allowed to fly within 400' of the terrain as you travel up the hillside.

You can change the altitude settings to the max and reach the top of the hill as you follow the terrain.

Your not allowed to fly straight up and over as this may be over a 1000 feet, but if you set the max altitude and follow the terrain under 400' to the top, you're good.


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[mkg89]

Here's an example that may help.

I would fly from the shore line of a lake in the valley surrounded by hills that are much higher than 400' above the launch point from the shoreline.

As a recreational pilot you're allowed to fly within 400' of the terrain as you travel up the hillside.

You can change the altitude settings to the max and reach the top of the hill as you follow the terrain.

Your not allowed to fly straight up and over as this may be over a 1000 feet, but if you set the max altitude and follow the terrain under 400' to the top, you're good.


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That is very well explained sir, thank you very much makes perfect sense. I don't know why I was looking earlier at the restricted altitude zone as a restricted airspace, but I think that's actually considered special use airspace if I'm correct which I may not be.

 

[MS Coast]

That is very well explained sir, thank you very much makes perfect sense. I don't know why I was looking earlier at the restricted altitude zone as a restricted airspace, but I think that's actually considered special use airspace if I'm correct which I may not be.

The limitations near your location shown in the figure in post #33 are entirely DJI's, not the FAA's. The FAA poses no special limitations there.

This image is from the first link under Quick Links on the FAA UAS Facility Maps page. The FAA just tells you to stay below 400' AGL at your location. (You would need LAANC authorization to fly in the areas inside the circle to the south.) DJI goes beyond that and tries to keep you out of areas that they define based on airport runways. Those areas aren't FAA Restricted Airspace or Special Use Airspace.

UAS Facility Maps | Federal Aviation Administration

UAS Facility Maps show the maximum altitudes around airports where the FAA may authorize part 107 UAS operations without additional safety analysis. The maps should be used to inform requests for part 107 airspace authorizations and waivers in controlled airspace.

www.faa.gov

 

[mkg89]

The limitations near your location shown in the figure in post #33 are entirely DJI's, not the FAA's. The FAA poses no special limitations there.

This image is from the first link under Quick Links on the FAA UAS Facility Maps page. The FAA just tells you to stay below 400' AGL at your location. (You would need LAANC authorization to fly in the areas inside the circle to the south.) DJI goes beyond that and tries to keep you out of areas that they define based on airport runways. Those areas aren't FAA Restricted Airspace of Special Use Airspace.

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UAS Facility Maps | Federal Aviation Administration

UAS Facility Maps show the maximum altitudes around airports where the FAA may authorize part 107 UAS operations without additional safety analysis. The maps should be used to inform requests for part 107 airspace authorizations and waivers in controlled airspace.

www.faa.gov

Thank you for all of the info good sir

 

[akdrone]

I had a plane at maybe 75 or 100 feet AGL come out from in back of me off to my side. Luckily I was at 50ft with my drone only 100 ft ahead. Freaked me out. Got down FAST.

 

[Cymruflyer]

I see 2 or more incidents per week, I fly the drone multiple times a day, this means if I don't have live feed on local air traffic I might have an issue if I don't pay attention. It isn't jets its light GA. I simply have the expectation when I fly that there could be the possiblity of someone flying into my space and I plan accordingly. IE: couple weeks ago a cessna was flying around at not more than 250 ft right over my property. I still flew the drone but made sure not to go above 50ft to maintain seperation. Since there are 40ft trees I was flying next to I figured I was safe to go to 50ft. (The multiple flights a day are for sunrise and sunset captures)

I seriously doubt it was that low. Most pilots are sensible and safety conscious when flying. I will assume you have never been a pilot, because flying so low in a Cessna requires far too much attention that it would not be any fun to do.

Ive been flying real airplanes most of my life and was a flight instructor for many years, so I have a good understanding of what a pilot does and does not do. There is safety in altitude and at 250ft, even 500ft, if there is a stutter in the engine, you have a few seconds to figure it out, at best, if it starts to loose power, before you impact the ground or a tree. That is why a pilot will not intentionally fly so low.

Unless you are in an ultralight, which flies slow, then it will be far too dangerous for a pilot to be flying at that altitude, wailfully. Most people WAY over judge, the wrong way, as to how low an aircraft is flying. Go out to your local airport and measure out 250ft from a small airplane and see just how large that looks to you, then you'll have an idea of how far away the Cessna actually was in your area.

 

[chadCO]

I seriously doubt it was that low. Most pilots are sensible and safety conscious when flying. I will assume you have never been a pilot, because flying so low in a Cessna requires far too much attention that it would not be any fun to do.

Ive been flying real airplanes most of my life and was a flight instructor for many years, so I have a good understanding of what a pilot does and does not do. There is safety in altitude and at 250ft, even 500ft, if there is a stutter in the engine, you have a few seconds to figure it out, at best, if it starts to loose power, before you impact the ground or a tree. That is why a pilot will not intentionally fly so low.

Unless you are in an ultralight, which flies slow, then it will be far too dangerous for a pilot to be flying at that altitude, wailfully. Most people WAY over judge, the wrong way, as to how low an aircraft is flying. Go out to your local airport and measure out 250ft from a small airplane and see just how large that looks to you, then you'll have an idea of how far away the Cessna actually was in your area.

I'm basing it on whether they are above me or below me in the camera view. I don't know their altitude, but I do know mine. There is an airport about 5 miles away and we see them all the time.