Drone damage to airplanes?

[BigAl07]

I know they shoot frozen chicken into the bigger jet engines when testing for damage. It just chops it up and spits it out the back. Smaller planes like Cessna's no doubt would do prop, wing or fuselage damage.

You may want to research that just a tad bit and get the real story about "Frozen Birds" testing . . .

Also here's one of a bird strike (Live Bird not frozen) on a Canadian F-16 trainer aircraft It has been incorrectly identified as an F-16. The aircraft in the video linked is actually a CT-155 Hawk Trainer as correctly pointed out by fellow forum member @MavicFT1P . This Military Training Jet (Combat rated aircraft) is taking a bird ingestion into the engine nacelle. It forced an ejection of the occupants (2 failed relight attempts) and then the crash of the aircraft into a farm/field. For the record, the Instructor and student did everything Text Book perfect but there was no recovering from this one. Here's a detailed write-up of this event:

CF Hawk at Moosejaw

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*Edited to correct description/name of the plane involved in this incident. BigAl07

 

[Starfire3D]

I would think the most dangerous part of the drone would be the battery, its pretty heavy and could possibly explode if struck and shorted.

 

[DoomMeister]

The aircraft wing used was from a small twin seater that has a cruise speed of 13 knots

Would that be an ultralight aircraft? No they even fly faster than 13 kts.

 

[FoxhallGH]

Would that be an ultralight aircraft? No they even fly faster than 13 kts.

I'm sure that was an uncorrected typo on Dragonfly's post ... But even so - 130 kts is not correct. As has been pointed out in posts in this thread, the wing used was from a Mooney 4-seat light aircraft that has a cruising speed of around 200 kts. In other words, not a typical trainer, but definitely in the range of aircraft used for cross-country private flying.

 

[MavicFT1P]

You may want to research that just a tad bit and get the real story about "Frozen Birds" testing . . .

Also here's one of a bird strike (Live Bird not frozen) on a Canadian F-16 trainer aircraft (Combat rated aircraft) taking a bird ingestion into the engine nacelle. It forced an ejection of the occupants (2 failed relight attempts) and then the crash of the aircraft into a farm/field. For the record, the Instructor and student did everything Text Book perfect but there was no recovering from this one.

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Sorry to be on of those ppl, but..
Your link is dead, and the aircraft was a BAe Hawk.
It's a small Jet trainer.
I cant see a f-16 being taken down so easily

This is the airplane in the picture

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[Thomas B]

Used to fly with a friend in his Aeronca Chief... makes me shudder to think about what would have happened to one of these canvas skinned elders, even at its cruising speed of 126mph.

 

[WithTheBirds]

Sorry to be on of those ppl, but..
Your link is dead, and the aircraft was a BAe Hawk.
It's a small Jet trainer.
I cant see a f-16 being taken down so easily

This is the airplane in the picture

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CT-155.... I hate to be the person that corrects “those ppl” but your off the mark on two counts....

The link does work -and- a CT-155 hawk looks nothing like the aircraft in the video you posted.

Just because you can’t see something doesn’t mean it can’t happen. F16’s and birds don’t mix well- engine compressor stalls being a more common than might be expected occurrence.

 

[Starfire3D]

Don't modern military jets have guards that prevent birds and other objects from getting sucked into the jet intake?

 

[BigAl07]

For the record... I went purely by the description of the video uploaded which does seem to be inaccurate .... but it doesn't matter exactly what aircraft... this CT-155 Hawk , a $25M Military training jet was brought down by a bird ingestion.... that's really the bottom line. Let's not get too far off track and derail the topic at hand.

Sorry to be on of those ppl, but..
Your link is dead, and the aircraft was a BAe Hawk.
It's a small Jet trainer.

For some people the link won't play directly from the forum but it gives a link directly to YT so you should be able to see the video.

@MavicFT1P that video clip from the James Bond movie is Bede BD-5J not the CT-155 Hawk (which does appear to be the jet in the video I linked).

CT-155 Hawk Trainer#202 <<< Click here

BD-5 <<< Click here

....."The aircraft also appeared in the opening sequence of the James Bond film Octopussy.[1] "
The one used in the James Bond film was the variant called BD-5J (J for Jet).

Here's an article about the exact one used in the movie when it went up for auction in 2015:

Fly Like Bond In Octopussy’s Jet - Maxim

The pint-sized plane will facilitate your escape from villains, but it only flies if the pilot is wearing velour.

www.maxim.com

But suffice to say that even a fairly robust aircraft can be taken down by something seemingly unsubstantial which SHOULD make all of us realize the risks we are taking when flying in areas, altitudes, and manners we should not.

 

[MavicFT1P]

Lol relax BigAl07. Your "record" speaks for Itself.
Thats why I was poking fun at you
The random 007 clip (and it's opening seconds) were to make that much clear

 

[BigAl07]

Lol relax BigAl07. Your "record" speaks for Itself.
Thats why I was poking fun at you
The random 007 clip (and it's opening seconds) were to make that much clear

No worry bud. I'm just poking back my friend. Hard to get "emotion" (good or bad or neutral) from typed text and I'm guilty of being "to the point" and it coming off as rude. I definitely need to work on that.

 

[hyper]

I thought it was a wing, at least that is what they lead me to believe.

 

[m0j0]

No that wasn’t aimed at you @Porky but I thought it was necessary to point out that the video was controversial and not scientific. One would have hoped CNBC would have done this but when “news organizations” refuse to do their job somebody has to step up and do it for them.

CNBC - LOL no thanks.

 

[Tom-Air]

You may want to research that just a tad bit and get the real story about "Frozen Birds" testing . . .

Also here's one of a bird strike (Live Bird not frozen) on a Canadian F-16 trainer aircraft It has been incorrectly identified as an F-16. The aircraft in the video linked is actually a CT-155 Hawk Trainer as correctly pointed out by fellow forum member @MavicFT1P . This Military Training Jet (Combat rated aircraft) is taking a bird ingestion into the engine nacelle. It forced an ejection of the occupants (2 failed relight attempts) and then the crash of the aircraft into a farm/field. For the record, the Instructor and student did everything Text Book perfect but there was no recovering from this one. Here's a detailed write-up of this event:

CF Hawk at Moosejaw

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*Edited to correct description/name of the plane involved in this incident. BigAl07

It says video unavailable.
Here are tests done with birds carcasses:

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The Chicken Cannon

Did British train engineers receive help from the FAA about the proper use of a chicken launcher?

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Not everyone fires thawed birds: before switching to fake birds, the U.S. Air Force traditionally launched frozen ones. (Sensitive to the concerns of animal-rights activists, they now fling birds made of clay and plastic at canopies and engines.) The way the Air Force had it figured, if a canopy could survive an impact with a frozen bird, it would certainly live through a chance introduction to one that could still fly under its own power. They further believed cold chickens provided a better simulation of a bird that had tensed to prepare for the impact.

 

[MavicFT1P]

It says video unavailable.
Here are tests done with birds carcasses:

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The Chicken Cannon

Did British train engineers receive help from the FAA about the proper use of a chicken launcher?

www.snopes.com

Not everyone fires thawed birds: before switching to fake birds, the U.S. Air Force traditionally launched frozen ones. (Sensitive to the concerns of animal-rights activists, they now fling birds made of clay and plastic at canopies and engines.) The way the Air Force had it figured, if a canopy could survive an impact with a frozen bird, it would certainly live through a chance introduction to one that could still fly under its own power. They further believed cold chickens provided a better simulation of a bird that had tensed to prepare for the impact.

Tensed. LoL i like that. Dont they know you should go limp before impact.
The Air Force can do as it likes.
I certainly hope the Airlines arent using anything but chicken. Would suck
for a Airliner to go down because they got the canadian goose Tolerance
wrong to satisfy PITA.

Imo Bird/Bug Strikes, are the bigger risk to Airplanes as that glass breaks and you go blind.
Apparently a b-52 nearly went down after flying through a swarm of Locusts
completely blocking the windscreen.
Landed using Airtower and INstruments (would have been some youtube video)
but it was around 95' i think