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Encounter with an Ornithologist

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Hi all,

Having read about confrontations people have had, I suppose it was inevitable to experience one myself. The closest I had ever come was either general curiosity (nice people) and one guy asked whether it was ok to fly where we were (he also owns a M2P).

A few days back I stopped by a pond adjacent to a hillside vineyard and thought it would make for nice shots and video as the hills here are still so green. I was just about to fly when a car pulled up, somewhat awkwardly next to me. I folded up the M2P and put it back in my car, assuming I would go elsewhere.

I began looking at AirMap to plot where I might go next when the woman driving the car knocked on my window. She had seen my M2P and suggested I shouldn't fly there because there were eagles nesting and she was there professionally to check on them. She then suggested some places to fly where people do other RC things. I had my Canon DSLR on the seat next to me and said that I'm not really interested in flying RC, and that I use my drone for the photography.

She seemed somewhat surprised at my answer and asked, "I know those things can shoot video, but is the quality really any good?"

I then showed her some photos, a short video, and a timelapse on my phone and she was genuinely stunned.

In an instant, she became supportive and began describing locations I could consider where wildflowers were blooming and where I could probably get some shots of the hills and valleys speckled with ponds and creeks.

From the moment she knocked on my window, while firm and committed to her message, she was completely professional and cordial. And once she understood that there are those of us who are not out to bother wildlife or people, but actually capture the beauty from a safe distance, she became incredibly friendly, helpful, and delightful. I traveled to one of her suggested locations, and as described it was lovely and a great location for flying.

I suspect all encounters won't end this way, but thought I would pass along a good outcome.
 
Very well done. KUDOS to you as well :)
 
I'm in a very liberal environmentalist type area. I haven't flown mines but will pretty soon. I think being kind and giving people info in how you pick spots to fly actually calms the down. But of course you will absolutely come across a bitter person who just doesn't not care for your opinion and will dictate that they are correct. For those people you just have to ignore and ask them to stop being a pee Wee Herman. That usually throws their game off. :p
 
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Hi all,

Having read about confrontations people have had, I suppose it was inevitable to experience one myself. The closest I had ever come was either general curiosity (nice people) and one guy asked whether it was ok to fly where we were (he also owns a M2P).

A few days back I stopped by a pond adjacent to a hillside vineyard and thought it would make for nice shots and video as the hills here are still so green. I was just about to fly when a car pulled up, somewhat awkwardly next to me. I folded up the M2P and put it back in my car, assuming I would go elsewhere.

I began looking at AirMap to plot where I might go next when the woman driving the car knocked on my window. She had seen my M2P and suggested I shouldn't fly there because there were eagles nesting and she was there professionally to check on them. She then suggested some places to fly where people do other RC things. I had my Canon DSLR on the seat next to me and said that I'm not really interested in flying RC, and that I use my drone for the photography.

She seemed somewhat surprised at my answer and asked, "I know those things can shoot video, but is the quality really any good?"

I then showed her some photos, a short video, and a timelapse on my phone and she was genuinely stunned.

In an instant, she became supportive and began describing locations I could consider where wildflowers were blooming and where I could probably get some shots of the hills and valleys speckled with ponds and creeks.

From the moment she knocked on my window, while firm and committed to her message, she was completely professional and cordial. And once she understood that there are those of us who are not out to bother wildlife or people, but actually capture the beauty from a safe distance, she became incredibly friendly, helpful, and delightful. I traveled to one of her suggested locations, and as described it was lovely and a great location for flying.

I suspect all encounters won't end this way, but thought I would pass along a good outcome.

Very nice! That’s the first legitimate concern I’ve ever heard from a bystander though. Eagles are federally protected and there are heavy fines for so much as disturbing them.

Bald and Golden Eagle Protection Act
The bald eagle will continue to be protected by the Bald and Golden Eagle Protection Act even though it has been delisted under the Endangered Species Act. This law, originally passed in 1940, provides for the protection of the bald eagle and the golden eagle (as amended in 1962) by prohibiting the take, possession, sale, purchase, barter, offer to sell, purchase or barter, transport, export or import, of any bald or golden eagle, alive or dead, including any part, nest, or egg, unless allowed by permit(16 U.S.C. 668(a); 50 CFR 22). "Take" includes pursue, shoot, shoot at, poison, wound, kill, capture, trap, collect, molest or disturb (16 U.S.C. 668c; 50 CFR 22.3). The 1972 amendments increased civil penalties for violating provisions of the Act to a maximum fine of $5,000 or one year imprisonment with $10,000 or not more than two years in prison for a second conviction. Felony convictions carry a maximum fine of $250,000 or two years of imprisonment. The fine doubles for an organization. Rewards are provided for information leading to arrest and conviction for violation of the Act.
 
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Hi all,

Having read about confrontations people have had, I suppose it was inevitable to experience one myself. The closest I had ever come was either general curiosity (nice people) and one guy asked whether it was ok to fly where we were (he also owns a M2P).

A few days back I stopped by a pond adjacent to a hillside vineyard and thought it would make for nice shots and video as the hills here are still so green. I was just about to fly when a car pulled up, somewhat awkwardly next to me. I folded up the M2P and put it back in my car, assuming I would go elsewhere.

I began looking at AirMap to plot where I might go next when the woman driving the car knocked on my window. She had seen my M2P and suggested I shouldn't fly there because there were eagles nesting and she was there professionally to check on them. She then suggested some places to fly where people do other RC things. I had my Canon DSLR on the seat next to me and said that I'm not really interested in flying RC, and that I use my drone for the photography.

She seemed somewhat surprised at my answer and asked, "I know those things can shoot video, but is the quality really any good?"

I then showed her some photos, a short video, and a timelapse on my phone and she was genuinely stunned.

In an instant, she became supportive and began describing locations I could consider where wildflowers were blooming and where I could probably get some shots of the hills and valleys speckled with ponds and creeks.

From the moment she knocked on my window, while firm and committed to her message, she was completely professional and cordial. And once she understood that there are those of us who are not out to bother wildlife or people, but actually capture the beauty from a safe distance, she became incredibly friendly, helpful, and delightful. I traveled to one of her suggested locations, and as described it was lovely and a great location for flying.

I suspect all encounters won't end this way, but thought I would pass along a good outcome.
Great! As s bird watcher myself I'm proud of you and her
 
Hi all,

Having read about confrontations people have had, I suppose it was inevitable to experience one myself. The closest I had ever come was either general curiosity (nice people) and one guy asked whether it was ok to fly where we were (he also owns a M2P).

A few days back I stopped by a pond adjacent to a hillside vineyard and thought it would make for nice shots and video as the hills here are still so green. I was just about to fly when a car pulled up, somewhat awkwardly next to me. I folded up the M2P and put it back in my car, assuming I would go elsewhere.

I began looking at AirMap to plot where I might go next when the woman driving the car knocked on my window. She had seen my M2P and suggested I shouldn't fly there because there were eagles nesting and she was there professionally to check on them. She then suggested some places to fly where people do other RC things. I had my Canon DSLR on the seat next to me and said that I'm not really interested in flying RC, and that I use my drone for the photography.

She seemed somewhat surprised at my answer and asked, "I know those things can shoot video, but is the quality really any good?"

I then showed her some photos, a short video, and a timelapse on my phone and she was genuinely stunned.

In an instant, she became supportive and began describing locations I could consider where wildflowers were blooming and where I could probably get some shots of the hills and valleys speckled with ponds and creeks.

From the moment she knocked on my window, while firm and committed to her message, she was completely professional and cordial. And once she understood that there are those of us who are not out to bother wildlife or people, but actually capture the beauty from a safe distance, she became incredibly friendly, helpful, and delightful. I traveled to one of her suggested locations, and as described it was lovely and a great location for flying.

I suspect all encounters won't end this way, but thought I would pass along a good outcome.

I wonder with an M2Z you could offer to get pics far enough away to not disturb but optically close enough to make a difference?
 
You ran into a good one. My ratio is 10:1. For every 10 people that want to know about the drone and ask all the standard questions:

How much
How far
How Long
A Camera
Can I see the screen
etc

I get one that just wants to impose thier feelings on my rights in a very forceful way.

So you have 9 more to go. LOL

You will know them when you encounter them! Sometimes even before by reading thier body language.
 
I think the worst ones are females. At least from th yt videos that I've seen. They start pointing a finger in your face and with a high pitch voice tell you that you are illegally flying. It's why I will only fly alone in the hills. Plus what more do you want? Oh wait... Some nice city skylines would be cool. :\
 

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