First look inside Putin's lethal drone factory

[mavic3usa]

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Definitely propaganda but disturbing nonetheless. I can't believe America was so unplugged and detached from the world that all of this was going on under our nose. Way back in the day, we would have been all over this but I guess we're busy fighting each other and bogged down on fighting in the ME for decades while everyone else moved ahead. If we don't jump into this with two feet (and leave China alone), the tide is probably going to turn on Ukraine; not sure how much longer they can hold out without a ton of help from the West/NATO. Again, I'm just shocked we don't appear to have any of this and you can't tell me we didn't know about this or what was going on. I guess when your intelligence services are only interested in your own people, you miss things. This will cost us.

 

[AnzacJack]

Your guys know/knew about this. We did and this form of intelligence is shared among allies.
Its not a question of knowing, but more about taking it seriously.
You have an arms market making $billions from high tech. They dont want to be thinking about what can be achieved on a budget in ‘the back shed”.
In the interview i was interested in the fellow comparing this to the tank war in the 40s.
Germany went high quality, extremely well engineered tanks. The soviets went the mass production route. We know how that ended for the Germans.
Its going to be an interesting theatre of war over the next 12 months

 

[Max Headroom]

Yep. The propellor is clearly shown a few times

Would that be big enough this is a small air cooled engine

 

[AnzacJack]

Easy. These things aren’t going for high speed. And they would be fairly light
They look to need assisted take off so loitering on that prop wouldn’t be a hard thing

 

[hank970]

Your guys know/knew about this. We did and this form of intelligence is shared among allies.
Its not a question of knowing, but more about taking it seriously.
You have an arms market making $billions from high tech. They dont want to be thinking about what can be achieved on a budget in ‘the back shed”.
In the interview i was interested in the fellow comparing this to the tank war in the 40s.
Germany went high quality, extremely well engineered tanks. The soviets went the mass production route. We know how that ended for the Germans.
Its going to be an interesting theatre of war over the next 12 months

I think the Soviets get too much credit for their "victory" in WWII. First off, they were engaged only in a one-front war against a single adversary -- an adversary that was facing challenges on multiple fronts. They didn't join the allies' efforts in North Africa or Italy or Normandy or fight the Japanese in the Pacific. They declared war on Japan only after the US dropped its A-bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Then, they opportunistically occupied Japanese territory, which they still hold today. They also benefitted greatly during WWII from Lend/Lease equipment furnished them by the US. Russia has always relied upon a large output of rather crudely made but durable stuff and large numbers of unwitting manpower to achieve its goals. There's little world demand for what Russia produces* other than oil and gas (with the benefit of US technology) and weaponry. Oh, and Matrioshka nesting dolls. If Hitler hadn't been such a greedy fool and picked so many fights at the same time, Germany would have cleaned the USSR's clock.

Even now, Russia has trouble projecting conventional force around the world or even against its smaller neighbors. All of those tanks clanking toward Kyiv didn't fare very well, did they? Imagine this: Its one antiquated, oil burning aircraft carrier sank in dry-dock.

*Consider for a minute the Lada Riva, Russia's shoddy copy of a Fiat 124. It was laughingly referred to as "the car built by people who don't care for people who don't have a choice."

 

[Riteguy]

At the end of the video it shows assembled drones they have a small air cooled engine can anyone see a propeller?

Yes, there was a single small propeller in the back.

 

[Intrceptor]

t the end of the video it shows assembled drones they have a small air cooled engine can anyone see a propeller?

At the end of the video it shows assembled drones they have a small air cooled engine can anyone see a propeller?

Look at 1:45. It's small, but it sure looks like a propeller.

 

[AnzacJack]

I think the Soviets get too much credit for their "victory" in WWII. First off, they were engaged only in a one-front war against a single adversary -- an adversary that was facing challenges on multiple fronts. They didn't join the allies' efforts in North Africa or Italy or Normandy or fight the Japanese in the Pacific. They declared war on Japan only after the US dropped its A-bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Then, they opportunistically occupied Japanese territory, which they still hold today. They also benefitted greatly during WWII from Lend/Lease equipment furnished them by the US. Russia has always relied upon a large output of rather crudely made but durable stuff and large numbers of unwitting manpower to achieve its goals. There's little world demand for what Russia produces* other than oil and gas (with the benefit of US technology) and weaponry. Oh, and Matrioshka nesting dolls. If Hitler hadn't been such a greedy fool and picked so many fights at the same time, Germany would have cleaned the USSR's clock.

Even now, Russia has trouble projecting conventional force around the world or even against its smaller neighbors. All of those tanks clanking toward Kyiv didn't fare very well, did they? Imagine this: Its one antiquated, oil burning aircraft carrier sank in dry-dock.

*Consider for a minute the Lada Riva, Russia's shoddy copy of a Fiat 124. It was laughingly referred to as "the car built by people who don't care for people who don't have a choice."

Sure. But over 100,000 tanks was nothing to sneeze at. Im not pro russian. Just saying when they want to they get get the mass production thing happening

 

[hank970]

Sure. But over 100,000 tanks was nothing to sneeze at. Im not pro russian. Just saying when they want to they get get the mass production thing happening

Big deal. During WWII, the US produced only 86,000 tanks. But the US also produced 300,000 aircraft (some of which we gave to Russia under lend/lease), more than 6700 major naval vessels (aircraft carriers down to destroyers), and 23,000 landing craft. My father was too old for the draft but, in addition to his regular job, he was also obliged to work at a giant defense plant just north of Cincinnati which made Wright Allison engines for B-17s. I was only a youngster then, but when I'd accompany my mother out to the Wright plant to pick him up after his shift, I recall seeing endless rows of wooden crates housing the big 18-cylinder radial engines awaiting shipment to the assembly plants that made the planes.

Further, we weren't just loading our production of tanks and other materiel onto rail cars and hustling it off to a war zone on our own borders (I'm thankful for that). We were delivering it across the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans to multiple theaters of war in far-flung (for us) corners of the globe.

Not only did we supply the Soviets with war materiel, but we also supplied them with many of the machine tools they needed to make theirs. I've seen many pictures in history books of workers in wartime Russia playing their trades on machines which were clearly identified as being manufactured in Cincinnati by R.K. LeBlond and Cincinnati Milling.

 

[Chip]

I think the Soviets get too much credit for their "victory" in WWII.

Soviet Union: 24,000,000
USA: 400,000

 

[Chip]

"British brains, American steel, and Soviet blood."
Joseph Stalin 1943

 

[hank970]

Soviet Union: 24,000,000
USA: 400,000

Yes, the Soviets suffered grievous losses of both civilians and military personnel, the latter because they ordered massive waves of exposed troops (cannon fodder) to charge and overwhelm enemy positions. Russia has tried the same tactic in Ukraine, with correspondingly high casualty rates. Apparently, the life of an individual doesn't hold the same value for them as it does for us, particularly if the individual hails from the hinterlands of Russia's eastern provinces or from North Korea. Relatively few of Russia's civilian losses in WWII were a direct consequence of injuries sustained in combat zones. They just starved or froze or were worked to death.

 

[AnzacJack]

Big deal. During WWII, the US produced only 86,000 tanks. But the US also produced 300,000 aircraft (some of which we gave to Russia under lend/lease), more than 6700 major naval vessels (aircraft carriers down to destroyers), and 23,000 landing craft. My father was too old for the draft but, in addition to his regular job, he was also obliged to work at a giant defense plant just north of Cincinnati which made Wright Allison engines for B-17s. I was only a youngster then, but when I'd accompany my mother out to the Wright plant to pick him up after his shift, I recall seeing endless rows of wooden crates housing the big 18-cylinder radial engines awaiting shipment to the assembly plants that made the planes.

Further, we weren't just loading our production of tanks and other materiel onto rail cars and hustling it off to a war zone on our own borders (I'm thankful for that). We were delivering it across the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans to multiple theaters of war in far-flung (for us) corners of the globe.

Not only did we supply the Soviets with war materiel, but we also supplied them with many of the machine tools they needed to make theirs. I've seen many pictures in history books of workers in wartime Russia playing their trades on machines which were clearly identified as being manufactured in Cincinnati by R.K. LeBlond and Cincinnati Milling.

“Big deal” ??
Im not here to argue with you dude, i was just making some comments.
Ill leave you to your opinion and find better things to do with my time.

 

[Mike2Fst]

Gotta love the eerie music. Would the video have the same vibe with Talking Heads Burning Down the House ?