Fly App 1.4.2 Color Display Assist Option

[AtortPhotography]

A little video on the new color display assist feature for the Air 2S in the new Fly App 1.4.2 update just the other day. Hope it helps and subscribe if you are on YouTube and say hello! Thanks.

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[hiflyer201]

Don't have the A2s but that's a well done video. Thanks for sharing!

 

[AtortPhotography]

Don't have the A2s but that's a well done video. Thanks for sharing!

Thank you too. Aloha

 

[TerryToast]

Can someone please give me some help?

I bought a MA2 last week and I’ve been filming in DLOG-M using Color Display Assist. The footage looks great in DJI Fly (using Color Display), but when I get home, download the footage and apply the DJI “DLog-M to Rec709 LUT” it looks like garbage. I’ve also tried the Film Poets LUTs for the MA2S with no luck.

I am massively disappointed. I upgraded from a Mavic Air 2 to the Air 2S. Turns out my video footage looks much worse on the Air 2S. I really miss my Air 2 with it’s easy-to-use DCinelike color profile which I colour graded using the Film Poets LUTs for fantastic results.

 

[pommy]

The footage looks great in DJI Fly (using Color Display),

The "Color assist" feature is just a just preview of what your footage should/could look like AFTER grading (because DLOG looks so washed out on the Fly app/screen it helps a bit). It doesn't DO anything to the footage apart from make it look good in the app. That's the aim.

If you say it looks great in the app, then it can only be your grading. (The Air 2S footage is better than that of the MA2 - both stills and video).

D-Cinelike is just a flat profile, like DLOG. The D-Cinelike captures a broader range of color by comparison, so it might have "looked" better - but in fact, DLOG captures better details in the highlights, not at the expense of the shadows (being too dark).

Your LUT's will work, but not the same as they did with DLOG - it's a different profile, so you won't get the same results as with D-Cinelike.

 

[TerryToast]

The "Color assist" feature is just a just preview of what your footage should/could look like AFTER grading (because DLOG looks so washed out on the Fly app/screen it helps a bit). It doesn't DO anything to the footage apart from make it look good in the app. That's the aim.

If you say it looks great in the app, then it can only be your grading. (The Air 2S footage is better than that of the MA2 - both stills and video).

D-Cinelike is just a flat profile, like DLOG. The D-Cinelike captures a broader range of color by comparison, so it might have "looked" better - but in fact, DLOG captures better details in the highlights, not at the expense of the shadows (being too dark).

Your LUT's will work, but not the same as they did with DLOG - it's a different profile, so you won't get the same results as with D-Cinelike.

I don’t understand why DLog LUTs don’t work like DCinelike LUTs. The way I understood it, LUTs simply take the flat footage and reapply the color.

People keep saying that DLog is 10 bit and has more details and colour. But for some reason, applying the DLog LUTs doesn’t bring all the colour back. That’s nuts.

 

[AtortPhotography]

Can someone please give me some help?

I bought a MA2 last week and I’ve been filming in DLOG-M using Color Display Assist. The footage looks great in DJI Fly (using Color Display), but when I get home, download the footage and apply the DJI “DLog-M to Rec709 LUT” it looks like garbage. I’ve also tried the Film Poets LUTs for the MA2S with no luck.

I am massively disappointed. I upgraded from a Mavic Air 2 to the Air 2S. Turns out my video footage looks much worse on the Air 2S. I really miss my Air 2 with it’s easy-to-use DCinelike color profile which I colour graded using the Film Poets LUTs for fantastic results.

Normally with LUT's not all work well for each drone you I think know this. I use Buttery Film LUT's and others and usually add a contrast LUT that looks like it's getting the best results and then dial it down by either lower the amount of the LUT effect and add a color wheel for example and kind of work those until you get something you're looking for. If you want send me a file about what you're talking about and I can take a look if you want.

 

[pommy]

I don’t understand why DLog LUTs don’t work like DCinelike LUTs. The way I understood it, LUTs simply take the flat footage and reapply the color.

People keep saying that DLog is 10 bit and has more details and colour. But for some reason, applying the DLog LUTs doesn’t bring all the colour back. That’s nuts.

DLOG is 10 bit. That’s right.

I think it’s just a learning curve for you as the facts speak for themselves…

10-bit image = 1.07 billion colors vs. 8-bit image = 16.7 million colors.

The transition between colors (sky for example) on 8 bit can get banding. It’s much smoother with 10 bit.

 

[TerryToast]

Normally with LUT's not all work well for each drone you I think know this. I use Buttery Film LUT's and others and usually add a contrast LUT that looks like it's getting the best results and then dial it down by either lower the amount of the LUT effect and add a color wheel for example and kind of work those until you get something you're looking for. If you want send me a file about what you're talking about and I can take a look if you want.

Thanks Atort

DLOG is 10 bit. That’s right.

I think it’s just a learning curve for you as the facts speak for themselves…

10-bit image = 1.07 billion colors vs. 8-bit image = 16.7 million colors.

The transition between colors (sky for example) on 8 bit can get banding. It’s much smoother with 10 bit.

I don’t doubt DLog preserves more colours. I am just disappointed that DLog does not respond well to LUTs and the colours are so hard to “bring back”.

If you need to be an expert to bring those DLog colours back, then DJI should be offering the DCinelike option on the MA2S … it’s a consumer drone and most consumers are not colour grading experts.

 

[Dan AISCF]

Thanks Atort

I don’t doubt DLog preserves more colours. I am just disappointed that DLog does not respond well to LUTs and the colours are so hard to “bring back”.

If you need to be an expert to bring those DLog colours back, then DJI should be offering the DCinelike option on the MA2S … it’s a consumer drone and most consumers are not colour grading experts.

We've been shooting in DLog since day one. We use buttery luts for our Sony cameras and our DJI drones. There's a DJI one (well, 4) that we use specifically for the Air 2S and it brings all the color back immediately. Of course we do a lot of color grading for our own purposes, however, one would only really need to mess with exposure, saturation (MAYBE) and contrast after dropping the buttery lut on and everything looks great.. You can see some samples on our webiste (in Sig or our YouTube)... The current banner on our site was filmed with the Air 2S and color graded in 3 seconds (using the CinimeGrade plugin for Davinci Resolve)....

 

[TerryToast]

We've been shooting in DLog since day one. We use buttery luts for our Sony cameras and our DJI drones. There's a DJI one (well, 4) that we use specifically for the Air 2S and it brings all the color back immediately. Of course we do a lot of color grading for our own purposes, however, one would only really need to mess with exposure, saturation (MAYBE) and contrast after dropping the buttery lut on and everything looks great.. You can see some samples on our webiste (in Sig or our YouTube)... The current banner on our site was filmed with the Air 2S and color graded in 3 seconds (using the CinimeGrade plugin for Davinci Resolve)....

Thanks Dan.

For the benefit of everyone who is having the same issue, the Buttery LUTs are indeed the answer. They’re excellent.

 

[Kilrah]

To clarify it "does respond to LUTs", it's just that the LUT you want is different for each device/profile so you can't expect to reuse the ones you used with a previous camera.

 

[TerryToast]

To clarify it "does respond to LUTs", it's just that the LUT you want is different for each device/profile so you can't expect to reuse the ones you used with a previous camera.

Thanks, but I know that. I was using MA2 DCinelike LUTs and switched to MA2S DLog-M LUT.

The problem was that the DLog LUTs I switched to, we’re not very good. Based on Dan’s advice, I tried the Buttery DLog LUTs and they are excellent, which solved my problem.