This will be our fourth Ireland trip, went on two with the John Byrne Band(PHL based Irish band), one by ourselves with me driving, and a CIE Northern tour after one of the band tours was over. BnB's are great and every hotel we've stayed in was great as well. Our next self driving tour is with one of my wife's friends who is in SCA. WE're going to do Dublin to Westport, Clare Island, to Galway, to Bunratty, to Dingle and back to Dublin with the idea that we might get a route that would attract some of her SCA friends who might like to go back in 2020. Also, our Irish band is planning a big trip to the west and NW of the land in 2020 if our own idea of agroup trip doesn't work out.