Mavic 2 Wind Capability

[MavicFT1P]

Has anyone noticed that Mavic 2 struggles in common wind scenarios?
The constant Wind Warning's, in common wind are starting to have a point.

They say it is more Aerodynamic, and maybe it is but the fact It weighs more and has more surface area... I dunno.

It feels far less nimble/capable than Mavic Pro in moderate to fresh wind scenarios. Especially Higher Up (Pretend
hypothetically someone is flying above 120m. Madness I know but just pretend)

It's definitely a more stable Film platform in Wind than Mavic Pro,
but it's ability to cover distance in even moderate winds doesn't compare.
It starts to suck battery at an alarming rate.

Signal Bars aside, im scared to let it get too far away in wind, lest it not lumber it's way home.
What has your experience been?

 

[Meta4]

The constant Wind Warnings, in common wind are starting to have a point.

The wind warnings are not a reflection on the ability of the drone.
They come from the app and will display whenever whatever drone is being flown encounters a wind of 7 metres/sec (15.6 mph), which is not a particularly strong wind.

They say it is more Aerodynamic, and maybe
It feels far less nimble/capable than Mavic Pro in moderate to fresh wind scenarios. Especially Higher Up

The important details are that the Mavic has a higher top speed and a greater flight time.
Higher speed equals greater ability to handle wind.

It's definitely a more stable Film platform in Wind than Mavic Pro,
but it's ability to cover distance in even moderate winds doesn't compare.
It starts to suck battery at an alarming rate.

Doesn't compare?
You'd have to come up with actual data to substantiate that.

 

[old man mavic]

the wind warning you are on about is just that ,its just letting you know that the wind speed at the altitude you are flying at is approaching a level that could affect the mavs ability to make it back to home, this is why best practise is to fly out against the wind if possible so the return leg has the wind behind you, i have noticed that the latest app updates give me wind warnings more often than earlier ones did and more so since i changed from android to IOS but it could just have been that way all along

 

[MavicFT1P]

Gee thanks Meta for dissecting/dismissing my attempt at a serious discussion on Mavic 2 and wind.
I spent a whole 5 mins on the grammar, and spacing, so if you wanted to hurt my feelings on a Friday morning,
job well done..*sniff*

I was going to leave it there but for the record...

Higher speed equals greater ability to handle wind.

You said that..yes you did.
Your grandkids are going to google what you did in life and that will be your legacy

 

[sar104]

Has anyone noticed that Mavic 2 struggles in common wind scenarios?
The constant Wind Warning's, in common wind are starting to have a point.

They say it is more Aerodynamic, and maybe it is but the fact It weighs more and has more surface area... I dunno.

It feels far less nimble/capable than Mavic Pro in moderate to fresh wind scenarios. Especially Higher Up (Pretend
hypothetically someone is flying above 120m. Madness I know but just pretend)

It's definitely a more stable Film platform in Wind than Mavic Pro,
but it's ability to cover distance in even moderate winds doesn't compare.
It starts to suck battery at an alarming rate.

Signal Bars aside, im scared to let it get too far away in wind, lest it not lumber it's way home.
What has your experience been?

I'm not convinced - the performance data all indicate that the M2 is going to be more capable in terms of wind resistance. It has a higher maximum airspeed, which directly equates to faster ground speed into a headwind, at least in sport mode. It also seems to be able to hold position in higher wind speeds. The only obvious untested variable is battery life as a function of airspeed but, since it has a similar drag coefficient to the MP, that should be comparable. Do you have any flight logs that actually illustrate a performance difference?

 

[MavicFT1P]

I dont sar104. I dont want to dissect the issue too hardcore, but I appreciate your reply.

I just wanted to point out the obvious that that Higher speed (obtained or obtainable) doesn't equal Ability to accelerate against resistance, or in lamens terms 'Horsepower isn't the same as Torque'.

As you say the undiscussed variable is Battery drainage, and that is where i am seeing the difference.

Ignoring wind warnings for a sec
That extra 6 mins flight time seems to be getting sucked out in any sort of headwind.
Note this is over very familiar routes I have taken with my MP, in very similar conditions.

*Pretend I have a more agressive tilt angle enabled on the MP, so it has the ability to go as fast as my stock M2
on sport

What has your experience been with the Mavic 2 in wind's your familiar with on the MP?

 

[sar104]

I dont sar104. I dont want to dissect the issue too hardcore, but I appreciate your reply.

I just wanted to point out the obvious that that Higher speed (obtained or obtainable) doesn't equal Ability to accelerate against resistance, or in lamens terms 'Horsepower isn't the same as Torque'.

As you say the undiscussed variable is Battery drainage, and that is where i am seeing the difference.

Ignoring wind warnings for a sec
That extra 6 mins flight time seems to be getting sucked out in any sort of headwind.
Note this is over very familiar routes I have taken with my MP, in very similar conditions.

*Pretend I have a more agressive tilt angle enabled on the MP, so it has the ability to go as fast as my stock M2
on sport

What has your experience been with the Mavic 2 in wind's your familiar with on the MP?

Actually air speed is a direct measure of resistance to wind. Acceleration is only relevant if the aircraft is changing ground speed. Drag goes with the square of the wind speed (ignoring variation of drag coefficient with attitude), and so power and force have a simple relationship in this case.

On the battery issue it should be a simple test - establish the battery depletion rate for the M2 and the MP in hover, and then compare at, say, 25 mph. If the M2 becomes much less efficient at higher air speeds that will show up very easily. I haven't seen that (I have an MP and M2P) although I haven't done a careful study, but there is no obvious physics that I can think of that would support such a hypothesis.

I think you have to ignore the wind warnings in this comparison, since they are likely set at different thresholds.

 

[MavicFT1P]

I appreciate your discussion sar104 as always.

"Higher speed equals greater ability to handle wind" is a sentence fragment
not a Thermodynamic absolutism.

Maybe he was not throwing it up as one.

The salient point being; I was trying to discuss the variables like wind & battery on
the Mavic 2 at all speeds and being taken out of context.

Like i said i appreciate your input, but i think I'll leave it there

 

[Kazzaaz]

"Higher speed equals greater ability to handle wind" is a sentence fragment
not a Thermodynamic absolutism.

Like i said i appreciate your input, but i think I'll leave it there

Before disparaging other members who are trying to help you out, think for a moment and consider the fact that you may be wrong. (you are)
If you have two of the same objects flying/thrown into the same wind profile, the one that is traveling faster will, in all cases, gain more distance before it falls.
It won't matter WHAT is flying through the air, or how much drag it is dealing with, or how long until it actually falls, or anything else. More speed = more momentum = more work for the wind to stop the object.

There could be some discussion on how the software chooses to regulate motor speeds when flying into the wind, and weather or not that's 100% efficient, but that's not what you asked.

Sar gave a well-informed and thought out answer, and you refute it in an entirely dismissive and nonconstructive reply.

Your thread was about how well the Mavic 2 performs in the wind, compared to the Mavic 1.
The answer is - until you can provide insight on these other "variables" you're talking about - it performs better.
Sar's conclusion comes not only from basic physics but from what I assume are hundreds of flight logs as well.

 

[Thomas B]

I regularly shoot hyperlapse sunsets with my M2P and while the wind warnings do pop up on my screen, I have found that the drone will hold position and orientation in winds as high as 22-23mph. High winds in this range usually cost me 2-3 minutes of flight time, but the hover is stable in position and orientation.