New DJI camera

dam · Oct 31, 2016

hmm seems DJI is always bringing out good stuff

BruteForce65 · Oct 31, 2016

Really cool!

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Raptorman · Oct 31, 2016

DJI is really looking to be a player in the camera market -- it;s just a matter of time before they sell a stand-alone camera for the general public.

Brian

CactusJackSlade · Oct 31, 2016

I wonder if it can be adapted for the Inspire?

Raptorman · Oct 31, 2016

CactusJackSlade said:
I wonder if it can be adapted for the Inspire?

I'm not sure why at this stage they decided on an HD camera when 4K is the real deal. At just HD there's not much reason for someone with videography as a goal to go with this camera versus the X5.

Brian

CactusJackSlade · Nov 2, 2016

Raptorman said:
I'm not sure why at this stage they decided on an HD camera when 4K is the real deal. At just HD there's not much reason for someone with videography as a goal to go with this camera versus the X5.

Brian

I think it's all about the 30x (optical) zoom lens.

Raptorman · Nov 2, 2016

CactusJackSlade said:
I think it's all about the 30x (optical) zoom lens.

I get that, but why not a 30X lens AND a 4K sensor -- best of both worlds...

Actually, with a 4K sensor you could get by with a lesser zoom ratio which would permit a faster lens and/or a lighter lens.

Brian

The Editor · Nov 2, 2016

dam said:
hmm seems DJI is always bringing out good stuff

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Look at the specs carefully.
This is NOT a general purpose camera - it has a very specific niche market with a resolution way below what anyone would want for aerial video production.

This is more suited to surveillance application where a zoom is important but image quality isn't.

I would say this is more a proof of concept type product (30x zoom) rather than something they expect to sell a lot of!

Raptorman · Nov 2, 2016

The Editor said:
Look at the specs carefully.
This is NOT a general purpose camera - it has a very specific niche market with a resolution way below what anyone would want for aerial video production.

This is more suited to surveillance application where a zoom is important but image quality isn't.

I would say this is more a proof of concept type product (30x zoom) rather than something they expect to sell a lot of!

I wouldn't call HD resolution WAY below the norm but with 4K quickly becoming the norm it is below what most people expect. I don't know that a 30X zoom lens obviate the need for a high res sensor as the point of a 30X lens is to zoom in to get detail that a lesser focal length would not. You get pretty much all of that benefit with a higher res sensor though you do tend to give up a bit of low light capability.

No doubt if the application is surveillance then an HD sensor with a big lens maybe preferred over a higher res sensor with a shorter lens. But, my point is you can do both: have a long lens AND a high res sensor and then binning when lower light performance is desired. Yes, binning is misstated in some cases but the ability to make a high res sensor act like a more sensitive lower res sensor is what I'm getting at.

Brian

180Productions · Nov 5, 2016

What's the price of this unit?

CactusJackSlade · Nov 6, 2016

Can't find a price.... but here is the info page: Zenmuse Z30 - Closing the Distance

bschaub · Nov 6, 2016

I doubt that DJI will get into the crowed and declining standalone camera business with ever improving phone cams encroaching from the bottom. I also don't see much use for the Karma detachable given the viewing angle. Pretty much useless.

CactusJackSlade · Nov 6, 2016

bschaub said:
I doubt that DJI will get into the crowed and declining standalone camera business with ever improving phone cams encroaching from the bottom. I also don't see much use for the Karma detachable given the viewing angle. Pretty much useless.

I would agree, I do think that they could do very well in the specialty gimbaled (stabilized) "sport cam" market

Exception · Nov 6, 2016

Very affordable $8,999 these guys are taking preorders, you'd better get in now lol
DJI Zenmuse Z30 Camera/Gimbal w/30x Optical Zoom

Fireblade · Nov 13, 2016

CactusJackSlade said:
I would agree, I do think that they could do very well in the specialty gimbaled (stabilized) "sport cam" market

the only true stabilized camera out there is Sony's new action cam. It's built in o.s. Makes the videos look like they're on their own gimbal. Hopefully action cam makers will copy n drive the prices down in the future.

Here's a couple of vids for comparison (against hero 5)

Grey Wolf · Nov 14, 2016

Raptorman said:
I'm not sure why at this stage they decided on an HD camera when 4K is the real deal. At just HD there's not much reason for someone with videography as a goal to go with this camera versus the X5.

Brian

Obviously you didn't even bother to read the specs.
It is designed for surveillance use only, not a cinema camera at all.
Resolution is too small to be a video camera.

Raptorman · Nov 14, 2016

Grey Wolf said:
Obviously you didn't even bother to read the specs.
It is designed for surveillance use only, not a cinema camera at all.
Resolution is too small to be a video camera.

Obviously you didn't read MY post. I know full well what role it's intended for but disagree on the use of a lower resolution seonsor, NOT because of cinematic needs but because in the surveillance role you want to be able to read license plates etc. Easier to do that with a higher resolution sensor.

There is a pervasive surveillance program designed to watch, from above, a large portion of an urban area. They built the system using something like 600 smartphone cameras built into an array so that they overlap and produce an effective resolution around 6 GPixel as I recall. At the distance they will operate they don't need to worry about having much DOF so they can operate the lens wide open for maximum light day and night. It is utter nonsense that a surveillance camera needs to have a low resolution sensor. WTF would they have a 30X zoom lens if they had no need to see small things!

Brian

flumpet · Nov 16, 2016

Raptorman said:
Obviously you didn't read MY post. I know full well what role it's intended for but disagree on the use of a lower resolution seonsor, NOT because of cinematic needs but because in the surveillance role you want to be able to read license plates etc. Easier to do that with a higher resolution sensor.

There is a pervasive surveillance program designed to watch, from above, a large portion of an urban area. They built the system using something like 600 smartphone cameras built into an array so that they overlap and produce an effective resolution around 6 GPixel as I recall. At the distance they will operate they don't need to worry about having much DOF so they can operate the lens wide open for maximum light day and night. It is utter nonsense that a surveillance camera needs to have a low resolution sensor. WTF would they have a 30X zoom lens if they had no need to see small things!

Brian

Chill. It doesn't matter who is right in this issue. DJI doesnt just roll a dice and decide to make a new camera out of thin air.
Come on, this is DJI, they fitted 4k camera to the phantom 3 series, so they have experience in this. Don't you think before they make this camera, a large group of people would have sat down and brain storm over the requirements? Do you think the few of us in this thread have a greater combined brainpower than all their engineers, scientists or decision makers?

The end point of DJi discussion is a 1080P camera with a long zoom. That is their decision. And i'm sure they have their reasons for that. Why not 4K, perhaps marketing wants to keep it for the next "upgrade", just like anything else.

Stop arguing amongst each other over such silly stuff.