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Wow, I never thought of this question until you asked it.

A speed limit is not listed in 44809 or is it listed in the TRUST course/test I took.

This would be up to the CBO (Community Based Organization).

I would research the AMA guidelines since some of their members have some crazy models they fly.
 
In the United States, the maximum legal speed for a drone is 100 miles per hour (mph). This limit is set by the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) in Part 107. Recreational pilots are Flying under an exemption of Part 107. So 100MPH is the Legal Speed limit.
 
You just said it though. The 100 mph is for flying under Part 107. If flying recreationally you fly according to the guidlines of a CBO as part of 44809. The AMA has UA that are allowed to fly over 100 mph as part of their large plane program. My only question is if this applies to drones since if you read through it it seems like model planes and helicoptors. This program is not their normal guidelines though and is for their more advanced pilots and apparently must be done at AMA fields or sanctioned events. So this is not very practical for those who want to fly fast whenever and whereever.

 
If flying recreationally you fly according to the guidlines of a CBO as part of 44809
In the U.S. it is actually illegal to fly a drone...............Without a part 107 cert.
When you are flying for recreation, You are doing so under the exemptions for part 107.
 
Looking back at the OPs original question I went off on a tangent. The Large Model route for over 100 mph is not for him.

What you just said is mostly true. Part 107 outlines th rule for small drones.
Next you keep saying exemption, 44809 is an exception.



If you fly under this exception and have your Trust, and meet the rest of the exception you can then follow a CBO. If the CBO had a path to fly faster than 100 mph you would be good.
For a small drone I do not see this path. AMA's Large Plane guidance seems to be for RC airplanes.

GOing off on tangent again since this will not help the OP. Your statement on Part 107 being the only way to fly a small drone. If you are part of a governement entity you can fly under Part 91 as a Public Aircraft. These pilots could fly without a Part 107 as long as they meet Part 91 and their COA states how to certify these Public Aircraft operators. We did this at work until we stopped and just made people get a Part 107 and then wrote this into our Part 91 COA. It is easier to self certify pilots with a proven Part 107 process then it was to create a self certification that met or exceeded part 107 with Part 107 making changes (Remote ID, OOP, Flying at night). So our COA now has in the Pilot Certification section that all pilots will obtain a Part 107 and will complete the recurrency training, but we could of just kept self certifying meaning that the pilot flying a legit public aircraft operation would not have a Part 107. Some public safety departments go this route.



A cool demonstration we just had with a vendor had a COA pilot (No Part 107) fly a drone from a computer in a building. This person had no Part 107. The Dock Drone was controlled by this person while a VO watched for safety. We watched through their awesome live stream platform. This was similar to FLight Hub 2, but better tuned to public safety since it connected to thier CAD (Dispatch software and workflow).

My point is there are more ways than just a Part 107 to fly a small UAS, but since I am on a tangent, these will not help the OP.
 
right basically my question was on the 100mph limit that is normal to Part 107. I was thinking that possibly there may be an exception to registration for being < 0.55lbs where you couldn't even go 100mph but this seems not the case at least not in the law code; it seems what ever the CBO has is what needs to be followed
 
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right basically my question was on the 100mph limit that is normal to Part 107. I was thinking that possibly there may be an exception to registration for being < 0.55lbs where you couldn't even go 100mph but this seems not the case at least not in the lab code; it seems what ever the CBO has is what needs to be followed
Sorry for obscuring your question with a tangent.

For what you want to do, no you will not be able to go over that speed limit.

Do you have a drone that even approaches this?

Of drones that are manufacturer built, I can only think of one off of the top of my head that claims this.
right basically my question was on the 100mph limit that is normal to Part 107. I was thinking that possibly there may be an exception to registration for being < 0.55lbs where you couldn't even go 100mph but this seems not the case at least not in the lab code; it seems what ever the CBO has is what needs to be followed

OP I finally got to read some of the AMA guidelines. I had read their basic guidelines before that they provide for RC and drone pilots as part of their CBO duties. I browsed through their Large Model and turbine guidlines as well as a FPV document also.

As Cafguy said it seems like 100 mph is going to be your max with a non-fixed wing drone.

FPV UA are limited to 100 mph.

On turbine powered UA, 100 mph for rotary craft and 200 mph for a fixed wing configuration.

It seems like a lot of their operations need to be done at an AMA field or sanctioned event also.

The pretty cool thing about all of this is the AMA have this written out in a methodical manner. The AMA waiver process for these special aircraft seems to maximize safety.

I did not read all of the documents, I just browsed through. Maybe an AMA member will read this and elaborate more.
 
I have been an AMA member almost my entire life. I have not seen such a flight BUT I would say If you receive a waiver for a flight like this, It can probably only be done at an AMA field with no spectators at a specified time and the fields flight director would probably want to be there, to check things out first......For safety.
Thats IF they would even allow it.
Speed records and such are usually not permitted at all or frowned upon on the fields property. especially when spectators are present.
 
For 107 is 100mph the limit it seems?
If so is it also the limit for drones < 0.55lbs?
Under FAA Part 107, the maximum allowable speed for small unmanned aircraft systems (sUAS) is 100 mph (87 knots), regardless of the drone's weight. This limit applies to all drones operating under Part 107, including those that weigh less than 0.55 lbs (250 grams).

The 0.55 lbs threshold primarily affects registration requirements for recreational drones, but it doesn’t create exemptions from operational rules like speed limits under Part 107. Therefore, even ultra-light drones must adhere to the 100 mph speed limit when flown commercially or under Part 107 regulations.
 
Under FAA Part 107, the maximum allowable speed for small unmanned aircraft systems (sUAS) is 100 mph (87 knots), regardless of the drone's weight. This limit applies to all drones operating under Part 107, including those that weigh less than 0.55 lbs (250 grams).

The 0.55 lbs threshold primarily affects registration requirements for recreational drones, but it doesn’t create exemptions from operational rules like speed limits under Part 107. Therefore, even ultra-light drones must adhere to the 100 mph speed limit when flown commercially or under Part 107 regulations.
That was my understanding, I was primarily concerned with them restricting your max speed even further if you flew under the personal/recreational rules with UASs under 0.55lbs. But its obvious now theres no additional restrictions.
 
Under FAA Part 107, the maximum allowable speed for small unmanned aircraft systems (sUAS) is 100 mph (87 knots), regardless of the drone's weight. This limit applies to all drones operating under Part 107, including those that weigh less than 0.55 lbs (250 grams).

The 0.55 lbs threshold primarily affects registration requirements for recreational drones, but it doesn’t create exemptions from operational rules like speed limits under Part 107. Therefore, even ultra-light drones must adhere to the 100 mph speed limit when flown commercially or under Part 107 regulations.
Nobody is disputing the speed limit while flying under Part 107.

The AMA which is a CBO has a path for an UA to fly over that speed limit. As stated, it will no help with the OP's initial question. It was more a though experiment.

Read 44809. It has 8 provisions that must be met. Speed limit is not listed. If flying under the AMA as the CBO, you can fly over 100 mph if you get the AMA waiver, fly at thier field and meet the other requirements of said waiver. The AMA can do this because "(A)the unmanned aircraft complies with standards and limitations developed by a community-based organization and approved by the Administrator; ", this being copied and pasted straight from 44809.

Again we are in agreement with the rules on Part 107. We are on agreement that the above does not apply help the OP's problem. We diverge on that fact that AMA on their website, has a path to go over the 100 mph for certain UA meeting what they term a waiver. They also have a path to fly UA over 55 lbs. They can do this because they are a CBO with "standards and limitations developed by a community-based organization and approved by the Administrator;".
 
you can fly over 100 mph if you get the AMA waiver, fly at thier field and meet the other requirements of said waiver. The AMA can do this because "(A)the unmanned aircraft complies with standards and limitations developed by a community-based organization and approved by the Administrator; "
That was put in place for RC jets. you are allowed 200 MPH with an RC jet IF you install a thrust limiter. (170 mph without)
I don't know of any AMA field that would give you permission to fly a drone that fast if they even had the authority to.
Not many are allowed to fly their jets at our field and there are lots of classes and flight tests to take before the field boss lets you do it on your own. also if others arrive on the field while you are flying jets you MUST stop and make them aware that you are doing it and that they are to stay well away. That's our field here anyways and we are way out in the Boonies.
 

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