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The way forward, or just a gimmick to catch the younger generation?

Can't wait to fly it around a natural history museum! I'm sure the staff won't have a problem with me flying it around dinosaur bones.
If you develop your skill and prove capable, you could very well make this happen. Promotional material is generated for marketing use and with a skilled professional and some precaution it's doable. You may not be allowed to power loop the bones but fly past/near I dont see why not.

I get the joke though.
 
I've been flying Fixed wings for decades and DJI drones since the Phantom 1.
DJI's FPV drone has been the most fantastic means of flight so far! That first person perspective is breathtaking. And the Motion Controller is so intuitive and reflexive - I love the experience.
That said, I just placed an order for the Avata. FPV flight is one of the few things that can make this soon to be 64 year old feel like a child again!
 
For me, it's the way forward.

I just got a new job, and it's been my intention since I accepted the offer on Saturday to buy a new drone when I get my first paycheck.

But which one? The three contenders were:

Mini-2
Avata
Second DJI FPV (for doing ride alongs)

Based on some general commentary here pre-release. I had concluded that I would not get the Avata. That's now reversed, and now I'm certain that's the new drone that I *will* get.

When I watched the DJI promo vid, my response was very strongly, "I'm going to take a closer look at this."

Then I watched the half hour commentary vid by "Original Dobo". I'd never seen him before, and he's really quite good. About 8 minutes in to the 31 minute vid, I said to myself, "I gotta get me one a' these!" So the drone that I'm getting with my first paycheck was no longer in question...it will be an Avata.

But then as I continued watching the vid, something that I hoped was true, turns out to be actually true.

I can use the controller and goggles from my existing DJI FPV with the Avata! He explicitly pointed out that this means if you have those, you can do "ride alongs", using the goggles that come with the DJI FPV, to let someone else watch the vid from the Avata on those goggles, in real time, while I fly it with the new goggles. I've wanted to do that since the first day I flew my DJI FPV!

So now the question is, instead of waiting for my first paycheck, how many days can I hold off before I buy my new Avata?

The price is the only reason for my hesitation. I could just buy the drone alone, and fly it with my existing RC and goggles, and at only $640, I'd do that in a heartbeat, if I thought that was the right answer for me.

But it isn't.

I want/need the second set of goggles for what I want to do. I want to get the IMC eventually. At a price of $1338 (+/-) for the full package, I have to catch my breath. I haven't priced it out yet, but I very strongly suspect that buying the components separately...just the drone now, and the goggles and IMC later...will cost a fair amount more that that. Have any of you priced that out?

I was worried that the Avata might make the existing DJI FPV obsolete, but it won't. For one thing, at 60 mph max speed, it's a snail compared to the 82 mph max for the DJI FPV. I've flown my DJI FPV at 82 mph, and that's very seriously more impressive than 60 mph.

So, the obvious answer is that I need one of each. The only real question is, how long will I hold off before making that happen?

At this point, it looks like DJI has hit a home run with the Avata. Thanks, DJI folks!

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Come on guys, I didn't mean to start any conflict, it was a genuine question since I thought of the restrictions placed upon LEGAL FPV flying solo, which would not suit my particular circumstances as I am usually solo when flying. I have to admit I hadn't thought of INDOOR flying, but in my case the cost of the Avata is prohibitive for the rare opportunities/will for indoor flying. That is why my first thoughts were that it would be better aimed at professional commercial users with the need to film such sequences. Like has been said, if FPV is your thing, then go for it. I still personally feel that for the average hobbyist like me who usually flies solo, then the temptation to ignore the law in pursuit of "enjoyment" might be encouraged by such generic advertising. Of course, there will always be those who ignore the law and put everyone else's "enjoyment" in jeopardy of tighter regulation, you only have to look at the illegal "distance" and "how high can it go" flights on You tube!
 
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Come o guys, I didn't mean to start any conflict, it was a genuine question since I thought of the restrictions placed upon LEGAL FPV flying solo, which would not suit my particular circumstances as I am usually solo when flying. I have to admit I hadn't thought of INDOOR flying, but in my case the cost of the Avata is prohibitive for the rare opportunities/will for indoor flying. That is why my first thoughts were that it would be better aimed at professional commercial users with the need to film such sequences. Like has been said, if FPV is your thing, then go for it. I still personally feel that for the average hobbyist like me who usually flies solo, then the temptation to ignore the law in pursuit of "enjoyment" might be encouraged by such generic advertising. Of course, there will always be those who ignore the law and put everyone else's "enjoyment" in jeopardy of tighter regulation, you only have to look at the illegal "distance" and "how high can it go" flights on You tube!
I get it. Maybe Part 108 will come along sooner than later. It includes shielded operations and BVLOS which would allow for FPV solo legally. We are a few years out but I think it says the need has been recognized so they are taking a look. It’s also been said the FAA is not looking for FPV pilots who fly responsibly. It’s good to have a spotter if you are going to be in the goggles but I hope we can agree if iyou’re not in an area with people it should be ok to operate with the current rules. People could be around when making real estate video but you hope not since you dont want them in the shot. A cinewhoop like the Avata will be a great tool for the purpose and if you’re not above the level of the house, you’re not going to interfere with other air traffic but again, I hear you rules are rules.
 
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Flying an FPV indoors is something I can understand. I am puzzled how it can be legal
to fly an FPV outdoors and still be legal. I recall learning for my Part 107 from Greg’s course that the PIC must maintain VLOS and cannot rely on a spotter. I assume that if I am wearing the goggles, I am the PIC. Perhaps somebody can explain how to legally fly an FPV with goggles outdoors in the US.
 
Flying an FPV indoors is something I can understand. I am puzzled how it can be legal
to fly an FPV outdoors and still be legal. I recall learning for my Part 107 from Greg’s course that the PIC must maintain VLOS and cannot rely on a spotter. I assume that if I am wearing the goggles, I am the PIC. Perhaps somebody can explain how to legally fly an FPV with goggles outdoors in the US.
Legally (under part 107) you can fly BVLOS with a spotter. Greg even has a course to train the official spotter now as part of his curriculum.
 
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Based on the YouTube videos I've watched, it looks like this drone has a very quick learning curve in Normal or Sport mode compared to typical, fully manual, FPV drones. The YT'ers I watched were easily flying around and through obstacles that by their own admission, they would never think about trying with their DJI camera drones. When they switched to manual mode, it was a whole different story. That's where the hours and hours of practice come into play. It does include a simulator for this purpose.

For the price, It's not something I would buy, but it does look like fun. My immediate reaction was the same as many previous commenters - wouldn't you need a VO to be legal?
 
Videos that you maybe or may not have the skills to shoot, and legality aside, it sure looks like a lot of fun to fly!
 
Not necessarily true. Greg from Pilot Institute has a video on the Avata and in it, he has one of his people who's never flown a drone, no less an FPV cinewhoop, and she was able to fly it with no issues. Sure, to be proficient and do the stunts and things like in the video you need to practice, but that goes for any drone, or for that matter...ANYTHING at all. There are slick car ads everywhere, but that doesn't mean a new driver is going to be able to drive with proficiency the first time they get behind the wheel of a car. LOL
Greg has a vid on the Avata???

I now know what drone vid I'm going to watch next!

Thx!
 
Sadly what the slick advertising doesn't show you, is how many hours of practice it requires to reach the level as seen
i notice right at the end it says performed by professionals,
flying FPV with goggles will ,and does produce some amazing footage ,and for those that have the necessary skills to do it ,i say good luck to them
I'll consider myself a very lucky man if I can find enough time to fly my drones enough to get half as good as that.

Fortunately, I love 'em just fine at my current medium-skill level!

:)
 
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