worth upgrading?

[Eagle430]

I own a mavic 3 drone (not the pro, not the classic,) it was a major improvement from my mavic 2 pro drone,
Things i love on my mavic 3:
+ Image quality
+ Very stable in winds
+ Battery ,-flying time

Things i hate:
- I often tend to loose gps signal , for example i have 20-22 sattelites and all of a sudden they drop to 12-10-5-2 and it turns to atti mode, this happens often and also when the drone is not far from me, no more than 100 meters away. I feel that the dji rc controller am using has less signal strength compared to the n1 controller, ofcourse this might be due to the country-area am flying , near middle east.
-- Point of interest , this is very frustrating as a lot of times it gets confused and is losing the point of interest and it just shifts to nearby spots
-- Still struggling with my exp settings, i haven't found the sweet spot yet, it will either rotate-move slowly and then accelerate fast or be very sensitive , i didn't find any middle ground ..compared to mavic 2 pro i found the mavic 2 pro much more smoother for cinematic moves when using the sticks

Since the mavic 4 is out now, i don't know if it worths upgrading from mavic 3? I use my drone professionally for paid jobs

 

[Johnmcl7]

Slightly off topic I guess but curious to hear what you liked about the Mavic 3 over the Mavic 2 Pro?

 

[Meta4]

Things i hate:
- I often tend to loose gps signal , for example i have 20-22 sattelites and all of a sudden they drop to 12-10-5-2 and it turns to atti mode, this happens often and also when the drone is not far from me, no more than 100 meters away. I feel that the dji rc controller am using has less signal strength compared to the n1 controller, ofcourse this might be due to the country-area am flying , near middle east.

This has nothing to do with your drone or controller or how far away the drone is.
It's all about GPS jamming in your vicinity.
Any drone will have the same issues.

 

[Eagle430]

Slightly off topic I guess but curious to hear what you liked about the Mavic 3 over the Mavic 2 Pro?

Everything

 

[Phantomrain.org]

We make the Wet Suits and Rescue Jackets to fly in the Rain an Land on the Water and have been watching all the reviews of the Mavic 4 Pro an the only real advantage of this drone that I can see is better Picture Quality . The Downside is that the Round Camera Design which I feel is not yet Proven itself , along with its tricks that I have no use for.

I am very curious to see if DJI sticks with the Round camera Design :

Vertical Tilt Limitations
Gimbal Glitches on any of the angles
Camera Shakes badly in the wind
Auto Reseting of the Camera when it gets overwhelmed.
and you have some lagging issue s

Auto focus problems on both cameras the 70 and 168mm not as big a issue as this can be corrected in post.

Than you have larger files codecs that need Adobe or Better to decode and render

H.264/H.265 6K footage slow to process and lacks Pro Res and you need detailed software and Computer Power

Because it has so much going on its a much longer start up process which can be annoying for Storm Chasers .

This Design needs to prove itself , and they need some updates which based on how few have sold , may not be coming anytime to soon .

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Gear to fly your Mavic 3 in the Rain. land on the Water,

 

[YorksPhotos]

We make the Wet Suits and Rescue Jackets to fly in the Rain an Land on the Water and have been watching all the reviews of the Mavic 4 Pro an the only real advantage of this drone that I can see is better Picture Quality . The Downside is that the Round Camera Design which I feel is not yet Proven itself , along with its tricks that I have no use for.

I am very curious to see if DJI sticks with the Round camera Design :

Vertical Tilt Limitations
Gimbal Glitches on any of the angles
Camera Shakes badly in the wind
Auto Reseting of the Camera when it gets overwhelmed.
and you have some lagging issue s

Auto focus problems on both cameras the 70 and 168mm not as big a issue as this can be corrected in post.

Than you have larger files codecs that need Adobe or Better to decode and render

H.264/H.265 6K footage slow to process and lacks Pro Res and you need detailed software and Computer Power

Because it has so much going on its a much longer start up process which can be annoying for Storm Chasers .

This Design needs to prove itself , and they need some updates which based on how few have sold , may not be coming anytime to soon .

Phantomrain.org
Gear to fly your Mavic 3 in the Rain. land on the Water,

I have tested 3 M4P's and haven't had any of the symptoms above. The gimbal even with limitations in portrait mode is one of the reasons I bought it. I like having full resolution in portrait. Works great for landscapes and my real estate photography. I to can't see using it for video as I dont to content on social media. Rotating in a video might be ok if used sparingly, to much on my 77 " oled might make me puke. I have been in windy conditions, enough that I was getting concerned and no gimbal glitches or resets. It has been a rock solid performer so far. No issues with auto focus or lagging. I have a fairly stout Windows 11 PC and haven't notice an issue with file processing. I don't do Apple or ProRes and avoid as much as possible although I do have an iPad.

I am curious at what updates that are needed that is affecting sales? Only issues I have read are a few have had collision avoidance problems. Unless its manufacturing or distribution. Everywhere I look they are selling out then replenished and selling out again. On power up to home point it seams simular to my Phantom 4 Pros. I haven't timed it and not concerned, not a storm chaser. Couldn't they get to the tornado quicker with the higher speed on the M4P? Are the other Mavics noticeably faster on power up?

 

[Filmarik]

When you say you are using drones profesionally for paid jobs, is it for taking stills or video or both?
The general answer to your question is: It depends.
To me it was not worth upgrading. I am a professional photographer. I also shoot videos but mostly for fun. I have developed my own workflow for processing DNG files from M3P and the IQ from all 3 cameras is very decent, especialy when considering that this is a constantly moving flying camera! I personally do not like how the main camera's QB sensor on M4P renders fine detail and how the color bleeds over sharp high contrast edges (buildings etc), especially in 100MP mode which also has some other serious issues like uggly color noise when shooting stills under low light. But the real dealbreaker for me was the 28mm lens projecting on 3:2 image ratio sensor. When taking photos the vertical field of view of this camera is significantly reduced when compared to 24mm lens projecting on 4:3 sensor. I often find myself shooting in situations where this would be a real problem. I personally do not need and quite frankly do not see much use for the 360 rotating gimbal in my line of work. I have RC Pro controller for my M3P and I am very happy with it. Never had range issue or GPS dropouts or waypoints issues or anything else. Try turning the obstacle avoidance off when you find responsivness too sensitive. This smooths out the flying characteristics of the drone.
To me the M3P is still an amazing and reliable work horse with 3 very usable cameras in the air. I can see keeping it for years to come.

 

[Phantomrain.org]

I have tested 3 M4P's and haven't had any of the symptoms above. The gimbal even with limitations in portrait mode is one of the reasons I bought it. I like having full resolution in portrait. Works great for landscapes and my real estate photography. I to can't see using it for video as I dont to content on social media. Rotating in a video might be ok if used sparingly, to much on my 77 " oled might make me puke. I have been in windy conditions, enough that I was getting concerned and no gimbal glitches or resets. It has been a rock solid performer so far. No issues with auto focus or lagging. I have a fairly stout Windows 11 PC and haven't notice an issue with file processing. I don't do Apple or ProRes and avoid as much as possible although I do have an iPad.

I am curious at what updates that are needed that is affecting sales? Only issues I have read are a few have had collision avoidance problems. Unless its manufacturing or distribution. Everywhere I look they are selling out then replenished and selling out again. On power up to home point it seams simular to my Phantom 4 Pros. I haven't timed it and not concerned, not a storm chaser. Couldn't they get to the tornado quicker with the higher speed on the M4P? Are the other Mavics noticeably faster on power up?

Yes I remember seeing your Post on drones coming from Korea and two from Japan I think , ugh !
Not for me sorry, Im struggling just getting a Mavic 3 Enterprise .. again.


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Gear to fly in the Rain... Land on the Water.

 

[YorksPhotos]

Mostly stills maybe 10- 20% for video. I am coming from a Phantom 4 Pro so this is huge. Verticle on real estate is a big help. Most of the lots in my area are narrow and front shots in landscape gets the neighbors homes. Less editing and better resolution but sometimes doesnt work with the layout. My post is very simple, I shoot raw and spend less than a minute on each in Lightroom. On antenna inspections I had to get close for detail and heavy crops, portrait and the telphoto lenses is going to help looking at brackets, nuts and bolts etc.. I never had any RF interference with the Phantom. Nerves on edge the 1st time I did it. Hope its the same with the M4P. My son is helping me out, one is for him. The other is a ready to fly back up for either of us.

 

[ssvdh66]

I own a mavic 3 drone (not the pro, not the classic,) it was a major improvement from my mavic 2 pro drone,
Things i love on my mavic 3:
+ Image quality
+ Very stable in winds
+ Battery ,-flying time

Things i hate:
- I often tend to loose gps signal , for example i have 20-22 sattelites and all of a sudden they drop to 12-10-5-2 and it turns to atti mode, this happens often and also when the drone is not far from me, no more than 100 meters away. I feel that the dji rc controller am using has less signal strength compared to the n1 controller, ofcourse this might be due to the country-area am flying , near middle east.
-- Point of interest , this is very frustrating as a lot of times it gets confused and is losing the point of interest and it just shifts to nearby spots
-- Still struggling with my exp settings, i haven't found the sweet spot yet, it will either rotate-move slowly and then accelerate fast or be very sensitive , i didn't find any middle ground ..compared to mavic 2 pro i found the mavic 2 pro much more smoother for cinematic moves when using the sticks

Since the mavic 4 is out now, i don't know if it worths upgrading from mavic 3? I use my drone professionally for paid jobs

coming from a mavic pro 3 ,I have upgraded to pro 4 .It is definitely worth it .The pic quality is so much crisper and the zoom is so much better .Start up and satellite lock is vastly improved .I love that I can dial in the zoom .
I only do stills ,so can't comment on the video performance..

 

[Meta4]

The Downside is that the Round Camera Design which I feel is not yet Proven itself , along with its tricks that I have no use for.

I am very curious to see if DJI sticks with the Round camera Design :

Vertical Tilt Limitations
Gimbal Glitches on any of the angles
Camera Shakes badly in the wind
Auto Reseting of the Camera when it gets overwhelmed.
and you have some lagging issue s

Auto focus problems on both cameras the 70 and 168mm not as big a issue as this can be corrected in post.

Than you have larger files codecs that need Adobe or Better to decode and render

H.264/H.265 6K footage slow to process and lacks Pro Res and you need detailed software and Computer Power

Because it has so much going on its a much longer start up process which can be annoying for Storm Chasers .

This Design needs to prove itself , and they need some updates which based on how few have sold , may not be coming anytime to soon .

None of that is true
I'm surprised you've found so many faults with a drone you've never owned.

 

[Meta4]

To me it was not worth upgrading. I am a professional photographer. I shoot videos but mostly for fun. I have developed my own workflow for processing DNG files from M3P and the IQ from all 3 cameras I am able to achieve is pretty amazing. I personally do not like how the main camera's QB sensor on M4P renders fine detail and how the color bleeds over sharp high contrast edges (buildings etc), especially in 100MP mode which also has some other serious issues like uggly color noise when shooting stills under low light. But the real dealbreaker for me was the 28mm lens projecting on 3:2 image ratio sensor. When taking photos the vertical field of view of this camera is significantly smaller when compared to 24mm lens projecting on 4:3 sensor. I often find myself shooting in situations where this would be a real problem.

It's amazing how serious the imaginary problems with this drone are.

 

[Filmarik]

It's amazing how serious the imaginary problems with this drone are.

They are not imaginary. They might be inconsequential to you but that does not mean they do not exist. If someone is asking question if the M4P is a worthy upgrade to M3P people might have different opinion about that and that can only help the OP to decide.

 

[Meta4]

They are not imaginary. They might be nonconsequential to you but that does not mean they do not exist.

So you've never tried the drone, but your detailed objections (which actual users haven't found) aren't imaginary?
OK

 

[Filmarik]

So you've never tried the drone, but your detailed objections (which actual users haven't found) aren't imaginary?
OK

My opinion is based on rigorous testing of numerous DNG files from M4P which I downloaded and processed. I have had M3P for over 2 years and used its 3 cameras in variety of situations and lighting condition so I have pretty good idea what this drone is capable of and how the photos compare to those I processed from M4P. The 28mm over 3:2 ratio sensor and the consequence of that is not imaginary either. That is a fact many aspiring buyers might not be aware of. Again, inconsequential to some, potentially a serious limitation to others. Not imaginary at all.
I am not trying to bash M4P I am just stating why to me it is not a viable upgrade. Hope that is not a crime

 

[KS-6]

For me, it was worth it.

All three cameras are upgraded, love the 28mm vs 24mm, the files are just better and I have already adapted my workflow to them. The improvements in range and signal strength are no joke and the RC 2 Pro is fantastic, screen brightness, much better input controls and flip to vertical even if limited pitch range is superb.

Then there is the combo of a faster top speed, vertical up and down speeds with a longer flight time that really make a noticeable difference in hang time on the subject. It gets airborne very fast, GPS is quick, charging at 240W is quick, just need an aftermarket charger with a 60% setting and I will be good to go on maintaining battery health.

I sold my otherwise fantastic Mavic 3 Pro recently so I am fully committed to this platform, come what may warranty wise. I now have 8 batteries and an RC2 as a spare controller in addition to the RC2 Pro, just need to get a second bird and the system will be complete.

 

[YorksPhotos]

So you've never tried the drone, but your detailed objections (which actual users haven't found) aren't imaginary?
OK

I am fairly new to this forum. I was on a Phantom forum when mine were new several years ago. I also have been on a few photography forums for almost 20 years and this one is loaded with misinformation. I would recommend the OP to filter it out and do some other research. I have seen on the photography forums every time a new body comes a few of those that can afford it and buy it love it no matter what to rationalize the purchase. Those that can't afford it or still have a previous model seem to bring out the negatives true or not to rationalize not upgrading. I might take a beating on those comments but just my honest opinion of what I have noticed over the years. So far the only complaints or wishes I have had would be the air speed and tilt limitations of the gimbal when in portrait and the carry bag.

 

[Felix le Chat]

I own a mavic 3 drone (not the pro, not the classic,) it was a major improvement from my mavic 2 pro drone,
Things i love on my mavic 3:
+ Image quality
+ Very stable in winds
+ Battery ,-flying time

Things i hate:
- I often tend to loose gps signal , for example i have 20-22 sattelites and all of a sudden they drop to 12-10-5-2 and it turns to atti mode, this happens often and also when the drone is not far from me, no more than 100 meters away. I feel that the dji rc controller am using has less signal strength compared to the n1 controller, ofcourse this might be due to the country-area am flying , near middle east.
-- Point of interest , this is very frustrating as a lot of times it gets confused and is losing the point of interest and it just shifts to nearby spots
-- Still struggling with my exp settings, i haven't found the sweet spot yet, it will either rotate-move slowly and then accelerate fast or be very sensitive , i didn't find any middle ground ..compared to mavic 2 pro i found the mavic 2 pro much more smoother for cinematic moves when using the sticks

Since the mavic 4 is out now, i don't know if it worths upgrading from mavic 3? I use my drone professionally for paid jobs

I take it you're a Cypriot? I'm pretty certain that Cyprus is in a zone that is plagued by GPS jamming, does the satellite dropout increase the closer you get to the Turkish Cypriot border?

 

[GadgetGuy]

Auto focus problems on both cameras the 70 and 168mm not as big a issue as this can be corrected in post.

How exactly do you correct focus problems in post?

 

[Phantomrain.org]

How exactly do you correct focus problems in post?

I think my point was that I did not feel after watching all the Reviews on this drone that any of the Focus or soft pictures or weak corners or color profiles or anything zoomed in was to alarming . Much of which AI can fix pretty quickly.

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Gear to fly in the Rain, Land on the Water.