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Wreckhunter
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I think now in order to keep doing what the small 107 cert companies are doing. You are gonna need a Drone builder!
True but I had a glimmer of hope until Bardwell said it. I have several homebuilds with Air units, guess I'll have to go with walksnails (they are great! IMO) when the time comes.
The only thing that makes me angry is I have all these DJI goggles and Equipment That will only work with OccuSync!
Darn, it appears that my days as a spy may be come to an end before I even get started. How will I be able to share aerial photos of the scenic rock formations a half mile behind my home with the Chinese Communist Party and the People's Liberation Army if there's a retroactive banning of my DJI drone? I'm sure that pictures of scenic sandstone outcrops would be of great strategic importance to them, and that the Chinese would be willing to spend vast sums of money to get them.
Rumor has it one of the 300 mile long tunnels from NORAD exits through this area pictured.
Cool pic and looks like a fun place to explore!
Would it be possible/legal/otherwise to purchase DJI in another country and bring it home to the US?
Speaking of NORAD, there were some Cold War tests conducted (1948-52) by DoD in Unaweep Canyon, about 20 miles SE of my home. They were meant to determine the seismic properties and blast-worthiness of granite before excavations began on the NORAD facility in Cheyenne Mountain. They dug two tunnels on-site, drilled some bore holes, and anchored dozens of steel plates on the granite, both inside and outside the tunnels, on which to mount geophones. I wandered around the site eleven years ago with some geologist friends and revisited it just a few weeks ago with my drone. I've attached some aerial shots of the tunnel entrances and an inside shot taken 11 years ago.
Closer to home, DoD also employed a plutonium trigger to touch off 500 tons (one million pounds!) of TNT at a site on Glade Park, about 10 miles SW of my home (Project Mixed Company -- 1972). At the time, it was billed as the largest non-nuclear explosion in history. They built three reinforced concrete blast structures, filled them with military vehicles, and scattered other vehicles and equipment around the site. The explosion produced a crater 140 feetCloser to home, DoD also employed a plutonium trigger to touch off 500 tons (one million pounds!) of TNT at a site on Glade Park, about 10 miles SW of my home (Project Mixed Company -- 1972). At the time, it was billed as the largest non-nuclear explosion in history. They built three reinforced concrete blast structures, filled them with military vehicles, and scattered other vehicles and equipment around the site. The explosion produced a crater 140 feet in diameter and 16 feet deep. in diameter and 18 feet deep. Following the blast, a rancher found a battered tank on his property, 2.5 miles from ground zero. I've attached photos of the blast structures. in diameter and 18 feet deep. Following the blast, a rancher found a battered tank on his property, 2.5 miles from ground zero. I've attached photos of the blast structures. Following the blast, a rancher found remnants of a battered tank on his property, 2.5 miles from ground zero.
My personal opinion is if the drone model does not have FCC approval, you won't be able to legally operate that drone model in the US NAS.
anotherlab
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If you purchase a DJI device that meets all US certifications, it's completely legal (right now) to buy it outside the country and bring it home with you. All of DJI's current drones are certified by the FCC.
With the potential for retroactive revocation of the certification, if deemed to pose a "security threat."
Why not, it's possible to buy drugs, humans, machine guns and assorted other banned things. Bringing it back and being able to legally use it are another matter.
jephoto
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Has any concrete proof been brought to light that any existing DJI drones /products have transmitted critical data or caused a problem with our communications networks?
And if so, how exactly would that happen? Especially now that no flight logs are shared with DJI?
Just trying to understand the justification for the bans.
Or is it all preemptive fears of what might happen as the tech evolves?
And if so, how exactly would that happen? Especially now that no flight logs are shared with DJI?
Just trying to understand the justification for the bans.
Or is it all preemptive fears of what might happen as the tech evolves?
anotherlab
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No, and DJI has passed previous audits.
DJI is an easy target for a politician to use to show they are standing up to China. DJI is a privately owned company, but has received investment money from state-owned enterprises. This is not unique to DJI; the Chinese government invests in many companies. It's also not unique to China; the Trump administration has acquired ownership in large US firms like Intel and U.S. Steel.
The Chinese government has invested heavily in Foxconn, one of the largest (if not the largest) manufacturers of iPhones. The Chinese government owns 30% of Wingtech, the Jiaxing-based company that is making the "made in America" Trump T1 phone. I would be more worried about security and surveillance features being added to a phone than to a consumer drone.
Human rights organizations have targeted DJI over the support it provided to the Chinese government for the tracking and surveillance of the Uyghur and other peoples in the Uyghur Region of East Turkistan. DJI has denied these allegations.
The concerns over networking gear are real. Routers and switches get compromised by the vulnerabilities in their code. When a hostile entity has control over the firmware or access to the source code, it is easier to exploit those vulnerabilities or add backdoors to the code. This happens all the time, and the US does it too. The Stuxnet cyber attack originated as an attack aimed at an Iranian nuclear power station.
This is political and economic theater.
Some of The concern is that while the latest and greatest weapons evolve, we stand a big risk of having to rely on a foreign nation to keep our national security.
BUT
The facts are, it just cost to much to produce electronics in the U.S. and while possible as you can see nobody wants to take a bath on trying. I know what your thinking......We in America have huge electronic companies, I mean GE right? American companies rely on Chinese electronic manufacturers for parts to produce their products.
The Government wants us all to buy American BUT They don't seem to understand ..WE CAN'T AFFORD THAT!! and why, The very Government that wants you to buy from an American producer, also wants to regulate that producer right out of business.
Walmart didnt make a billion because of their service, They made money cause we could afford to spend there...Thanks to all the products imported from China.
If the American government wants American companies to compete in a world market then stop overegulating everything!
BUT
The facts are, it just cost to much to produce electronics in the U.S. and while possible as you can see nobody wants to take a bath on trying. I know what your thinking......We in America have huge electronic companies, I mean GE right? American companies rely on Chinese electronic manufacturers for parts to produce their products.
The Government wants us all to buy American BUT They don't seem to understand ..WE CAN'T AFFORD THAT!! and why, The very Government that wants you to buy from an American producer, also wants to regulate that producer right out of business.
Walmart didnt make a billion because of their service, They made money cause we could afford to spend there...Thanks to all the products imported from China.
If the American government wants American companies to compete in a world market then stop overegulating everything!
anotherlab
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Does that mean eliminating minimum wage protections and workplace safety? A seamstress in a country like Vietnam makes the equivalent of $2.99 per hour, versus $18.00 in the US. That's a primary driver of why jobs left the US.
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