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I purchased the Mavic Air 2 Combo. Arrived 2 days ago and made my successful maiden flight yesterday. I fly other Mavics' (Mini and Air) to compare it to. I was very pleased with the solid contact I had with it (occusync). It quickly got farther out than I expected. View was great on my Note 8 (1000nits) in full sun. No lag in video. Felt like a nice, more secure upgrade from the MA, for me. I also felt like a more secure compass and sat contact. No compass calibration necessary and home was spot on. Did I mention the sound, much quieter (pitch) than the original MA. I noticed people walking their dogs, they gave it no notice. I did one RTH and it was within a foot upon return. I like the controller size and feel and position of phone mount.
I have hundreds of flights on my MA and this MA2 will get plenty of use. It will get out today. I am happy with this DJI offering and find that it is a good value for the money.
 
What a joy to fly!

Mine arrived yesterday. Had a great experience ordering from DJI. Zero snafus in the ordering process, and was delivered on time, exactly as promised.

As a child, I first started with a gas airplane, tethered by string to you, while it flew around in circles. I remember the glow plugs, smell of that fuel, and sticking your finger in the prop to start it. Then all the toys along the way over the years. But this MA2 is truly amazing. So easy to fly, and every kind of feature you can think of. Photos are breathtaking. Can't wait to get back out on the road touring with this. Doesn't take up much room on my motorcycle so it will be with me when I find new opportunities to use it.
Your recollection of the old gas airplanes brought back many vivid memories for me. These new Drones are certainly a technological marvel compared to those old airplanes.
 
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Maximum speed recorded in the Fly App in N mode was 18mph into a 10mph headwind, as recorded in AirData, where no wind is rated at 27mph. Maximum speed on the Mavic 2 in P mode into a 10mph headwind is 27 mph, where no wind is rated at 32mph. Do with the information as you wish. The discussion was about making headway into the wind. The Air 2 is half as efficient as the Mavic 2 when flying into the wind, losing a mile per hour for every mile per hour of headwind, instead of only half a mile per hour on the Mavic 2. Whether you want to attribute it to the much lighter weight of the aircraft, or the inefficiency of the motors, or a combination of the two, the result is still the same.
Sorry if there were posts subsequent to this one and your original impressions and comparisons with the Mavic 2 behaviour with wind.

First of all, I'm sure you're talking of wind speed at the flight altitude, since it's obviously greater than at ground level.

Secondly, some have said that the only measurement is GPS speed over the ground, since there is obviously no pitot tube to measure airspeed.

What those people may not realise is that the airspeed can be deduced by the FC by the power being sent to the motors, in conjunction with climb rate and maybe a few other things. In still air, and set conditions of air density and temperature, there will be a set relationship between motor power consumption and airspeed, with a minimum power draw at some moderate speed, perhaps around 8m/s, 18mph or so, and slightly higher power used in a hover.

Therefore I presume what you suggested in your initial post was that the Mavic 2 has a different strategy for dealing with wind, such that it perhaps increases power in an attempt to match the commanded speed, as determined by the controller stick position.

I think it would be wrong to describe this behaviour, if that's what's happening, as more or less "efficient", since you can't escape the laws of physics. If your aim is to maximise distance, it will be best to fly into a headwind at a higher power setting (higher speed) than for flight in still air, or with a tailwind.

In tailwind flight, I believe most drones will not exceed their maximum speed in still air, or at least not by much. Can you confirm this for the MA2?

If this is indeed the case, my guess is that the speed is limited by braking requirements, and the maximum available tilt. Exceeding the maximum speed could therefore result in overshoot.
 
What a joy to fly!

Mine arrived yesterday. Had a great experience ordering from DJI. Zero snafus in the ordering process, and was delivered on time, exactly as promised.

As a child, I first started with a gas airplane, tethered by string to you, while it flew around in circles. I remember the glow plugs, smell of that fuel, and sticking your finger in the prop to start it. Then all the toys along the way over the years. But this MA2 is truly amazing. So easy to fly, and every kind of feature you can think of. Photos are breathtaking. Can't wait to get back out on the road touring with this. Doesn't take up much room on my motorcycle so it will be with me when I find new opportunities to use it.
Wow, I was just thinking about that very thing this morning, memories of flying a tethered, gas-powered, home-built wooden model plane in a school parking lot when I was a kid. It took forever to get the engine started, sometimes catching a finger on the prop in the process. And when I did get it off the ground it often ended in a crash on the pavement. I kept patching that thing up till it was more glue & tape than wood. But for those moments you did have it flying, in its way, what a thrill. Eleven year-old me could never imagine being able to fly something like today’s drones. But it’s funny how 40-something years later that same basic thrill is still there every time I fly a drone.
 
I got mine Mother's Day but didn't fly because, you know, wife.

But I flew it today, only got to go through 2 batteries. This is my first Mavic, I had a cheap GPS drone before this one so I have nothing really to compare to other than this thing was freaking awesome. Flew perfectly, great vision on the screen, App was good. I can see why people were concerned because it is probably lacking some of the features everyone is use to but for me this was a huge upgrade and I thought it was amazing.

My neighbor/friend that got me in to this has a MP2 and a Zoom and he was out there with me for my first run at it and he was super impressed with how quiet it was and the quality of the build, for what that's worth (he's been in this for years now).

So it was really cool and I have zero buyers remorse, and wish I had 2 just because... ha!
I have gone through four batteries. My obsernations:
The drone is as or more responsive as my Mavic 2 Pro. It is quicker to stop than the Pro in Normal mode. The Fly App is easy to use for flight and simple to use for photos and video. I flew it in a 22mph wind and it handled the wind fine. Did go through the battery in 16 minutes. As expected.

I find the 4k video to be acceptable, not a Pro 2 quality, but the Bayer array on the camera does a nice job. I like the option of HDR. I decided to use smart photo mode because I don't want to consider the options every time. This will be my fast shoot drone. For that reason the smart photo option is great. The Pro will be used when setup time is available. The 8K Hyperlaps is problematic. Photos are quite good. Overall a B.

The controller is big, but with a tablet mounted, it is comfortable to hold. Need to get used to the button placement. Controllers are touch typing and they moved the vowels.

The shoulder case is too small for me. Clearly designed for the mavic mini crowd. I pack more stuff. Even leaving charger behind, no room for tablet, mount, extra cables, etc.. it is in my LoePro backpack.

Follow mode tracked bike at 28 MPH in parallel with no problem. The lack of upward sensors certainly can be a problem on complex environments.

You have to know what this is. It is not a PRO, but it seems to be a solid flyer within its limits.
 
Come on now you know you've flown one, what did ya think?
Truly the crapiest bird I have ever owned ... it's going back .....
I can't put this thing down ... it is addicting as hell .... I love it! It's not perfect. It would be nice to get a little bit more control of the camera & exposure setting during HDR Video & Smart Photo.
It flies perfect!

Cheers, Jon
 
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For me coming from Spark, it was night and day. No comparison whatsoever. Also, all the talk about DJI geofencing got me worried. I live about 4 miles from the airport but I was pleasantly surprised when the drone allowed me to take off in my backyard. I thought it won't even turn on based on what I was hearing. I did not fly more than 20 feet above the ground. I'm sure I will probably get a warning if I go much higher but I won't do that. So far very happy with my purchase. Glad I didn't go for used MP2.
 
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Hi there, just wanted to point out you need a Canadian RPAS (pilot) certificate to fly in Canada, currently that requires you are a Canadian citizen and pass an exam. In the past as a visitor you could apply for a SFOC, even that was rescinded a little while back. Our government effectively crushed drone tourism with that move. Hope it changes in the future, but you risk nasty consequences if you get caught. As a Canadian, I must say "sorry" about this.;)
Not if the drone is under 250G. Thus why I am keeping the Mini for Canada and the Air 2 will stay home.

Most US rules except registration apply even below 250G
In Canada, the Mini is a Micro Drone. Basic Rule = Don't be stupid.
It does not fall under either Basic or Advance Operation rules.

"Micro drones (under 250 grams) and drones that weigh more than 25 kilograms do not fall into the basic or advanced operations categories. If you have a micro drone, you must never put people or aircraft in danger. Always fly responsibly. "

One site interprets this sentence as meaning this:
Which is a good set of guidelines, but one could argue the same rules for a kite are the ones you would use for a Micro drone (toy)

And my answer if asked about it. Oh sorry, it's just a toy. I will put it away..
 
It doesn't handle wind at all well, which makes the 34 minutes flight time at 11 mph with no wind a very misleading flight time with any wind. Like the Mini, it's too light to efficiently make headway into the wind. Every mile of headwind results in a mile of reduced top speed in both Normal and Sports modes, while the Mavic 2 loses less than a half a mile of top speed, per mile of headwind, and is most efficient at 31mph, while the Mavic Air 2 is most efficient at 27mph.

Flying into a 10mph headwind, top speed was 18mph in Normal mode (27mph max).
Switching to Sport mode (42.5mph max) only increased the top speed to 31mph.
Stayed in Sport on the outleg, and returned in Normal mode at 27mph.
Landing at 7% remaining battery resulted in only a 22.5 minute flight time, covering only 9 miles. No net gain in flight time, and no gain in total distance over the Mavic 2 for my style of flying.

Mavic 2 in P mode into a 10 mile headwind would be at 26mph with only a 10% reduction in flight time over no wind, and a 23 minute average flight time to 5% remaining battery, but easily covering 10 miles.

A second MA2 flight, with lots of hovering for 6 panos and staying in Normal mode in between the panos resulted in a 27 minute flight time covering only 5.2 miles, landing at 5% remaining battery.

No ability to save the 26 original images for the panos, let alone shoot them in DNG. No expo control over the yaw for smoother turns. 20MP saved original stills from the M2P from panos run circles around the 13MP final stitched result on the MA2 with no access to the 12MP originals. 48MP capability from the 1/2” sensor is decent and better than a plain 12MP shot, but still can't match the dynamic range of a 20MP still from the 1” sensor on the M2P. No control over the front red LED's to keep them off.

Note: The Remote Identification Broadcast toggle to OFF does not survive a reboot, and must be manually turned off as part of the preflight routine, upon every boot up! Much like the GEO toggle of yore, expect this toggle to soon disappear, forcing the broadcast of your flight to everyone with DJI's detecting smartphone app!

You'll need to use the iPad app to unlock any authorization zones as the iPhone version won't let you enter the six digit authorization code in the boxes on the screen!

Careful about the much lighter airframe. I didn't initially unfold the props, and the spin up caused the drone to slide off my small launching table, almost leading to disaster, until I gave full left throttle to immediately lift it off the table.

Turn your phone volume down to almost zero, unless you want your neighbors to hear every announcement, including every loud shutter click of a 26 shot pano, which screams "I'm taking pictures of you!" even though the drone is 1/2 a mile away! The annoying beeping below 10% is on the RC, so it is still annoying, but not nearly as loud as the M2 remote. It will still attract unwanted attention.

You'll need a longer USB-C to Lightning cable for any iPad use, and most table mounts still work. No place for a lanyard, though.

4K 60fps video is buttery, but the lack of yaw expo reduction means the turns are still too whippy.

Charge all the batteries in the FlyMore kit off the Hub separately on the original charger for the initial charge from hibernation.

Your wind experience doesn't match mine. I was impressed with the wind performance. Had speeds of 20 mph in 12 mile/hour head wind in normal mode for a loss of about .6 mph per mile of head wind. Didn't try sport mode. Got a total flight time of 26 minutes with 8% remaining. It is a huge improvement over the Mini's wind performance, as to be expected and significantly better performance over the MA 1. My only real complaint is the lack of gimbal pitch speed and smoothness adjustments which hopefully will be added in an update. The 8K hyperlapse has too long an interval (6 secs) to be smooth and is kind of 'gimicky' but works pretty well in 1080 (2 sec interval). I would assume that interval on the 8K is hardware driven and unlikely to be improved. Sub sampling to a 4K hyperlapse should be doable if they decide to add it. Overall, I've been impressed with the flight performance and the video/photo capabilities.
 
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It doesn't handle wind at all well, which makes the 34 minutes flight time at 11 mph with no wind a very misleading flight time with any wind. Like the Mini, it's too light to efficiently make headway into the wind. Every mile of headwind results in a mile of reduced top speed in both Normal and Sports modes, while the Mavic 2 loses less than a half a mile of top speed, per mile of headwind, and is most efficient at 31mph, while the Mavic Air 2 is most efficient at 27mph.

Flying into a 10mph headwind, top speed was 18mph in Normal mode (27mph max).
Switching to Sport mode (42.5mph max) only increased the top speed to 31mph.
Stayed in Sport on the outleg, and returned in Normal mode at 27mph.
Landing at 7% remaining battery resulted in only a 22.5 minute flight time, covering only 9 miles. No net gain in flight time, and no gain in total distance over the Mavic 2 for my style of flying.

Mavic 2 in P mode into a 10 mile headwind would be at 26mph with only a 10% reduction in flight time over no wind, and a 23 minute average flight time to 5% remaining battery, but easily covering 10 miles.

A second MA2 flight, with lots of hovering for 6 panos and staying in Normal mode in between the panos resulted in a 27 minute flight time covering only 5.2 miles, landing at 5% remaining battery.

No ability to save the 26 original images for the panos, let alone shoot them in DNG. No expo control over the yaw for smoother turns. 20MP saved original stills from the M2P from panos run circles around the 13MP final stitched result on the MA2 with no access to the 12MP originals. 48MP capability from the 1/2” sensor is decent and better than a plain 12MP shot, but still can't match the dynamic range of a 20MP still from the 1” sensor on the M2P. No control over the front red LED's to keep them off.

Note: The Remote Identification Broadcast toggle to OFF does not survive a reboot, and must be manually turned off as part of the preflight routine, upon every boot up! Much like the GEO toggle of yore, expect this toggle to soon disappear, forcing the broadcast of your flight to everyone with DJI's detecting smartphone app!

You'll need to use the iPad app to unlock any authorization zones as the iPhone version won't let you enter the six digit authorization code in the boxes on the screen!

Careful about the much lighter airframe. I didn't initially unfold the props, and the spin up caused the drone to slide off my small launching table, almost leading to disaster, until I gave full left throttle to immediately lift it off the table.

Turn your phone volume down to almost zero, unless you want your neighbors to hear every announcement, including every loud shutter click of a 26 shot pano, which screams "I'm taking pictures of you!" even though the drone is 1/2 a mile away! The annoying beeping below 10% is on the RC, so it is still annoying, but not nearly as loud as the M2 remote. It will still attract unwanted attention.

You'll need a longer USB-C to Lightning cable for any iPad use, and most table mounts still work. No place for a lanyard, though.

4K 60fps video is buttery, but the lack of yaw expo reduction means the turns are still too whippy.

Charge all the batteries in the FlyMore kit off the Hub separately on the original charger for the initial charge from hibernation.
Holy sh@t .... I just flew in 15mph+ & gusts to 30mph & no issues, not even with video ...... REMOVE Your Gimbal Lock .... that bubble in front of your camera ;) ;) Maybe it's broken because of a fall ;)

Cheers, Jon
 
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I posted the experience that my Air2 impressed me the most in a different thread. But I will share the video here...
I am only a hobby flyer, so I haven’t explored the full capabilities of the bird. But I’m in love with hyperlapse, HDR video and active track. Check this out;

 
What a joy to fly!

Mine arrived yesterday. Had a great experience ordering from DJI. Zero snafus in the ordering process, and was delivered on time, exactly as promised.

As a child, I first started with a gas airplane, tethered by string to you, while it flew around in circles. I remember the glow plugs, smell of that fuel, and sticking your finger in the prop to start it. Then all the toys along the way over the years. But this MA2 is truly amazing. So easy to fly, and every kind of feature you can think of. Photos are breathtaking. Can't wait to get back out on the road touring with this. Doesn't take up much room on my motorcycle so it will be with me when I find new opportunities to use it.
Yea, the control line gas airplanes were great hey, I absolutely loved them.I loved making them from pals wood kits. And then the tissue and dope on the wings and fuselage..I an still smell it now! I think I started with them when I was about 9 or 10!. Small kids wouldn't be allowed anywhere near such a dangerous, finger chopping device nowadays..very sad really!. I’m really glad I grew up when I did and had all that stuff. Poor kids only have computer games today…and actually think them exciting!!
 

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