1" Sensor on the Air 2S not as big as you think but still way bigger than Air 2

Bussty · Apr 7, 2021

Just checked and 1" isn't real it's actually only 15.86mm in a diagonal compared to the current 8mm of the Air 2 and Mavi Mini and Mini 2

To get to a full inch you get there by using an APS-C Digital Camera with a 26.7mm diagonal measurement.

So the sensor on the Air 2S is twice the diagonal measurement of the Air 2 BUT 4x the area of the Air 2, that's like comparing 1080 with 4K Wow!

So not so much of an issue for video but huge benefit for stills photographers...

Sensor Size Link

MGVision · Apr 7, 2021

Your calculations seems weird to say at least...

Bussty · Apr 7, 2021

If you think about it. Get a square one inch in diagonal (corner to corner) call that the Air 2 sensor. Now take a square twice the diagonal of the first square. That first square will now fit roughly 4 times into the second just like 1080 does into 4K.

If still not convinced look at the chart in this link Sensor Size Link

The area of the 1/2.3" sensor (what's on the Air 2) is 28mm2 compare that with the 1" sensor of the Air 2S and it's 116m2

That's pretty much an area of 4x the Air 2. Hard to believe but true...

MGVision · Apr 7, 2021

Bussty said:
If you think about it. Get a square one inch in diameter (corner to corner) call that the Air 2 sensor. Now take a square twice the diameter of the first square. That first square will now fit roughly 4 times into the second just like 1080 does into 4K.

If still not convinced look at the chart in this link Sensor Size Link

The area of the 1/2.3" sensor (what's on the Air 2) is 28mm2 compare that with the 1" sensor of the Air 2S and it's 116m2

That's pretty much an area of 4x the Air 2. Hard to believe but true...

You are wrong - Mavic air 2 have 1/2" inch sensor. 1/2.3" inch sensor have mini 2.

Bussty · Apr 7, 2021

macius said:
You are wrong - Mavic air 2 have 1/2" inch sensor. 1/2.3" inch sensor have mini 2.

Yeah but the basic maths is still the same. Expect approx 4x the sensor area on the Air 2s

SkyeHigh · Apr 7, 2021

Bussty said:
Yeah but the basic maths is still the same. Expect approx 4x the sensor area on the Air 2s

... and you don’t measure squares or rectangles with diameters, it’s ‘diagonal’.

GadgetGuy · Apr 7, 2021

The IMX686 is a 1/1.7” sensor, not a 1” sensor, so there appears to be a contradiction, since the same person posting the 1” sensor size video says the sensor is the IMX686.

"While @OsitaLV admits he’s speculating, he’s pretty specific. In fact, he suggests the drone will ship with an IMX686 sensor, capable 64 MP photos, and 4K, 60fps video"

MGVision · Apr 7, 2021

GadgetGuy said:
The IMX686 is a 1/1.7” sensor, not a 1” sensor, so there appears to be a contradiction, since the same person posting the 1” sensor size video says the sensor is the IMX686.

"While @OsitaLV admits he’s speculating, he’s pretty specific. In fact, he suggests the drone will ship with an IMX686 sensor, capable 64 MP photos, and 4K, 60fps video"

Seems to me when there is mention about 1 inch sensor on the box that mean exactly that

Bussty · Apr 7, 2021

SkyeHigh said:
... and you don’t measure squares or rectangles with diameters, it’s ‘diagonal’.

Yes yes I'm just so excited contemplating having a drone with a sensor with a surface area 4x the current Air 2 but with the weight and size of the Air 2S...

SkyeHigh · Apr 7, 2021

macius said:
Seems to me when there is mention about 1 inch sensor on the box that mean exactly that

Not at all, it’s a false statement made by marketing people for many, many years.

The original vacuum tube-based image sensors were circular so a diameter measurement was used. Even then the width of the tube was measured and not the active sensor area.

Marketing types have continued to use the same measurement but by measuring the diagonal size of the sensor and again not all of it is the active area.

The sensors are still tiny compared to a DSLR sensor - how else would you fit them in a smartphone?

The IMX686 is only 7.4 x 5.56mm (41sq mm). By comparison a Full Frame DSLR sensor is 36 x 24mm (864sq mm) and approximately 1” high. That’s 21 times the area.

The 1” measurement of the DSLR sensor is what they playing on in the hope people will believe the sensor is bigger than it really is and capable of DSLR image quality.

SkyeHigh · Apr 7, 2021

Bussty said:
Yes yes I'm just so excited contemplating having a drone with a sensor with a surface area 4x the current Air 2 but with the weight and size of the Air 2S...

It’s nowhere near 4x greater surface area. It is NOT a 1” sensor.

Bussty · Apr 7, 2021

SkyeHigh said:
It’s nowhere near 4x greater surface area. It is NOT a 1” sensor.

Well this is the debate isn't it. I know it's not a true physical 1" sensor but you would think having 1" on the front would suggest it's the adopted 13.2 x 8.8mm format for 1" sensors which does have 4x surface area (or close enough to) over the current Air 2.

It does sound too good to be true but pretty devious on DJI's part if it isn't...

SkyeHigh · Apr 7, 2021

Bussty said:
Well this is the debate isn't it. I know it's not a true physical 1" sensor but you would think having 1" on the front would suggest it's the adopted 13.2 x 8.8mm format for 1" sensors which does have 4x surface area (or close enough to) over the current Air 2.

It does sound too good to be true but pretty devious on DJI's part if it isn't...

Sure is devious, what marketing isn’t these days?

In Australia manufacturers use the term ‘Clinically tested’ because they haven’t been scientifically tested to accepted standards. They also slip in the term ‘May help’ because there is no scientific basis or proof the product does what it claims. The cosmetic industry is full of very questionable claims.

How about ‘Buy one get one free’. Nothing of the sort, you’re being charged for both.

Marketing, sadly, has become the art of deception. You really need to research these days to find the truth.

MGVision · Apr 7, 2021

SkyeHigh said:
Sure is devious, what marketing isn’t these days?

In Australia manufacturers use the term ‘Clinically tested’ because they haven’t been scientifically tested to accepted standards. They also slip in the term ‘May help’ because there is no scientific basis or proof the product does what it claims. The cosmetic industry is full of very questionable claims.

How about ‘Buy one get one free’. Nothing of the sort, you’re being charged for both.

Marketing, sadly, has become the art of deception. You really need to research these days to find the truth.

Well you know this psychological "hocus pokus" magic tricks but what about spinning ball throught infinite space paradigm deception?

Bussty · Apr 7, 2021

SkyeHigh said:
Sure is devious, what marketing isn’t these days?

In Australia manufacturers use the term ‘Clinically tested’ because they haven’t been scientifically tested to accepted standards. They also slip in the term ‘May help’ because there is no scientific basis or proof the product does what it claims. The cosmetic industry is full of very questionable claims.

How about ‘Buy one get one free’. Nothing of the sort, you’re being charged for both.

Marketing, sadly, has become the art of deception. You really need to research these days to find the truth.

I guess we haven't had firm confirmation of the sensor from DJI we are all guessing but I can't see how they can have a Mavic 2 Pro with 1 inch sensor and produce another Drone with a 1" sensor but make it smaller?

They clearly know what size a one inch sensor is DJI Confirming 1" sensor size

GadgetGuy · Apr 7, 2021

Bussty said:
I guess we haven't had firm confirmation of the sensor from DJI we are all guessing but I can't see how they can have a Mavic 2 Pro with 1 inch sensor and produce another Drone with a 1" sensor but make it smaller?

They clearly know what size a one inch sensor is DJI Confirming 1" sensor size

Well, it doesn't say Hasselblad, so maybe Hasselblad labelled 1” sensors are different than generic Chinese 1” sensors!