2 Men face charges

[Daytona500]

Two men arrested following 'hazardous drone operation' near Boston airport

Two Massachusetts men are facing criminal charges this morning after operating what authorities have described as a "hazardous drone operation" near Boston's Logan Airport.

www.abc15.com

 

[GFields]

When I read things like this, my blood boils.

 

[bmwbob]

Drone paranoia is going to be even crazier after the Xmas drones hit the skies!

 

[mavic3usa]

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M

Post in thread 'DRONES FLYING OVER NEW JERSEY'

Dec 15, 2024

The arrests have begun. Don't have any concrete facts to comment on. Only thing I said earlier is if you are honest and just make a mistake or doing something pretty harmless or careless, they will track you down with all their resources (at least two dozen officers, agents, and troopers), capture you using force, seize everything you own, and punish you hard in multiple jurisdictions with at least a dozen different felony charges. "Education" is not an option on the table. They don't need fancy drone detection equipment, they don't need any "new laws" their hands are certainly...

• mavic3usa

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"Public officials have said investigators are unsure of where the drones came from or who they belong to, but maintain that there is no known threat to public safety."

No threats but arrests have been made? Does "unsure" mean you have no probable cause? The airports and the military bases and the critical infrastructure folks claim they have hundreds of incidents constantly over the years. This high-profile arrest is clearly an attempt to link the situation with the ongoing events in NJ in some way. As if these guys are responsible, now that they are in jail, does that mean the "drones" will stop? Are we going to arrest the hundreds of other people responsible for flying their drones illegally over and near places they shouldn't be? Do you think we can just arrest our way to solving this problem?

 

[Daytona500]

When I read things like this, my blood boils.

Me too

 

[Photo Booth]

These three doofuses (one of them reportedly got away in a small boat), if found guilty, deserve severe punishment. It's yo-yos like these three that make life more difficult for the rest of us. Make examples of them.

Mark

 

[mavic3usa]

These three doofuses (one of them reportedly got away in a small boat), if found guilty, deserve severe punishment. It's yo-yos like these three that make life more difficult for the rest of us. Make examples of them.

Mark

Guilty of what, do we even know the charges? All I've heard is trespassing. Details?

This is all I could find lately:

2 accused in Boston drone incident charged with trespassing

Jeremy Folcik and Robert Duffy were charged after Boston police say they were flying a drone close to Logan Airport.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[Daytona500]

I hope the FAA steps in and brings more charges. The only way this will stop is more arrest and charges and have it broadcast every were you break the rules your gonna pay the price.

 

[Starz]

Interesting that nothing is mentioned regarding whatever created the danger.
Was any hardware confiscated?

 

[MARK (LI)]

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M

Post in thread 'DRONES FLYING OVER NEW JERSEY'

Dec 15, 2024

The arrests have begun. Don't have any concrete facts to comment on. Only thing I said earlier is if you are honest and just make a mistake or doing something pretty harmless or careless, they will track you down with all their resources (at least two dozen officers, agents, and troopers), capture you using force, seize everything you own, and punish you hard in multiple jurisdictions with at least a dozen different felony charges. "Education" is not an option on the table. They don't need fancy drone detection equipment, they don't need any "new laws" their hands are certainly...

• mavic3usa

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"Public officials have said investigators are unsure of where the drones came from or who they belong to, but maintain that there is no known threat to public safety."

No threats but arrests have been made? Does "unsure" mean you have no probable cause? The airports and the military bases and the critical infrastructure folks claim they have hundreds of incidents constantly over the years. This high-profile arrest is clearly an attempt to link the situation with the ongoing events in NJ in some way. As if these guys are responsible, now that they are in jail, does that mean the "drones" will stop? Are we going to arrest the hundreds of other people responsible for flying their drones illegally over and near places they shouldn't be? Do you think we can just arrest our way to solving this problem?

How did you even dream up that they are linking these guys to the events in Jersey?.....in the story itself, there is reference to the East Coast....but nothing about the arrest being connected to the goings on in the State of New Jersey .....and the guys were "booked" and were scheduled for arraignment......they aren't in jail as you state. Calm down, I assure you that the sky will not fall.

 

[Photo Booth]

Guilty of what, do we even know the charges? All I've heard is trespassing. Details?

This is all I could find lately:

2 accused in Boston drone incident charged with trespassing

Jeremy Folcik and Robert Duffy were charged after Boston police say they were flying a drone close to Logan Airport.

www.cbsnews.com

I, for one, took the time to look up the location they were (allegedly) flying the drone. The FAA facility map clearly shows the allowable altitude at the location is 0 feet.

Further, common sense suggests the police officer who first investigated the drone was probably on the mainland, not the island. Thus, it seems highly likely these bozos were piloting the drone toward Logan.

Even if they were only flying over the island, in the absence of permission from the FAA, they were in violation the moment the drone lifted off.

Mark

 

[Photo Booth]

Interesting that nothing is mentioned regarding whatever created the danger.
Was any hardware confiscated?

The first story I read said the two had a backpack with a drone in it. It further indicated the drone ID matched the information the officer had detected remotely while the drone was in the air.

Mark

 

[Starz]

a backpack with a drone in it

Did someone actually witness them flying what they had. Something in a backpack doesn’t constitute guilt. Just seems a bit odd, but then again, it’s all just reading material at this point.

 

[mavic3usa]

How did you even dream up that they are linking these guys to the events in Jersey?.....in the story itself, there is reference to the East Coast....but nothing about the arrest being connected to the goings on in the State of New Jersey .....and the guys were "booked" and were scheduled for arraignment......they aren't in jail as you state.

the media is loosely making the link (not a hard link, nobody is saying these are the guys) by mentioning the arrest story everytime the nj story is mentioned. I would love them to treat it differently but it keeps coming up in all the discussion unlike the arrest at Vandenberg which is not mentioned. plus, they throw in the "we don't know for sure if this is tired to..." which is keeping that door open. why not just say "these aren't the guys!" proximity is close enough for people to not know the different, Long Island sounds like LI, NY when it isn't. Yep, I just read the story and I even posted it, these guys are out of jail, without having to post bond, so run the story one more time and then leave it alone otherwise....but I guess you can't do that when it keeps getting mentioned a 3rd suspect is on the run, on the loose after being chased (i.e. he left before the police got there and he's not that stupid to go turn himself in). my guess this is nothing more than a trespassing charge, shouldn't even be in the national news but it is....because a drone was found.

 

[mavic3usa]

I, for one, took the time to look up the location they were (allegedly) flying the drone. The FAA facility map clearly shows the allowable altitude at the location is 0 feet.

Further, common sense suggests the police officer who first investigated the drone was probably on the mainland, not the island. Thus, it seems highly likely these bozos were piloting the drone toward Logan.

Even if they were only flying over the island, in the absence of permission from the FAA, they were in violation the moment the drone lifted off.

Mark

Sure, you're not the only one who can see. I thought I saw a 50 and a 100 grid as well as a 0 on Long Island, am I mistaken? does a 0 grid means you absolutely cannot take off under any circumstances?

All I have is what the media has said in the papers so I can't take those as facts until we see some sort of official document. Until then, unless there are any drone violations charges, those bozos are innocent of "piloting a drone towards Logan" or "flying over the island in the absence of permission" or "in violation of lifting off a drone." For now, I see none of those.

So quick to throw fellow drone pilots under the bus during a time which is ripe to scapegoat and pick on drone pilots unfairly. What if they made a mistake? I don't know exactly what they done but is "education" not an option any more?

 

[Myetkt]

So quick to throw fellow drone pilots under the bus during a time which is ripe to scapegoat and pick on drone pilots unfairly. What if they made a mistake? I don't know exactly what they done but is "education" not an option any more?

Why did they run? Obviously they knew they were in the wrong. Maybe they were hooked for felony running.

 

[Photo Booth]

Sure, you're not the only one who can see. I thought I saw a 50 and a 100 grid as well as a 0 on Long Island, am I mistaken? does a 0 grid means you absolutely cannot take off under any circumstances?

All I have is what the media has said in the papers so I can't take those as facts until we see some sort of official document. Until then, unless there are any drone violations charges, those bozos are innocent of "piloting a drone towards Logan" or "flying over the island in the absence of permission" or "in violation of lifting off a drone." For now, I see none of those.

So quick to throw fellow drone pilots under the bus during a time which is ripe to scapegoat and pick on drone pilots unfairly. What if they made a mistake? I don't know exactly what they done but is "education" not an option any more?

This is the first article I read about the incident:

https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/15/us/drone-boston-airport-arrest/index.html

From the article:

"The officer used advanced UAS monitoring technology to identify the drone’s location, flight history and its operators’ position on the largely uninhabited Boston Harbor Island known as Long Island, police said.

The Boston Police Harbor Patrol Unit was dispatched to the island and found three people inside the decommissioned Long Island Health Campus, police said. The suspects fled on foot, but two were captured and a drone was found inside one suspect’s backpack, according to police. The third person is believed to have fled in a small vessel, and the search is ongoing."

Long Island Health Campus is very much within the 0 grid over Boston Harbor Island.

Being inside ANY part of controlled airspace requires, at minimum, LAANC approval to fly there. It is VERY doubtful that LAANC approval would be given for a 0 grid area.

What the majority of the U.S. population is "ripe" for is more reasons to ban drones ENTIRELY. These three idiots have just given people another reason to "fear" drones, another reason to dislike and distrust drone pilots, and another reason for Congress (under pressure from their constituents) to ban drones.

So, yeah, if these morons are guilty, you are darn tootin' I want them prosecuted to the fullest extend of the law. I want the punishment to be as severe as possible. I want them to be an example so that others might think twice before doing something stupid that affects other people. And the drone community should be UNITED in scorning these types of idiots.

Mark

 

[Myetkt]

I don't know exactly what they done but is "education" not an option any more?

These guys could have been warned, advised, educated, taken out for a steak dinner and tucked into bed, and you would still say the Police did wrong. That’s the way you think and have written about in numerous posts. When new laws are introduced, as you are so against, blame clowns like these, not the law makers.

 

[Photo Booth]

This is a screen grab of a portion of the FAA's UAS (drone) Facility Map for the location under discussion. I placed a blue dot on Long Island to mark the location of the decommissioned Long Island Health Campus, the place from which the perps were (allegedly) flying the drone. The distance from the blue dot to Logan airport is approximately 3 miles.

Mark

 

[mavic3usa]

This is the first article I read about the incident:

https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/15/us/drone-boston-airport-arrest/index.html

From the article:

"The officer used advanced UAS monitoring technology to identify the drone’s location, flight history and its operators’ position on the largely uninhabited Boston Harbor Island known as Long Island, police said.

The Boston Police Harbor Patrol Unit was dispatched to the island and found three people inside the decommissioned Long Island Health Campus, police said. The suspects fled on foot, but two were captured and a drone was found inside one suspect’s backpack, according to police. The third person is believed to have fled in a small vessel, and the search is ongoing."

Long Island Health Campus is very much within the 0 grid over Boston Harbor Island.

Being inside ANY part of controlled airspace requires, at minimum, LAANC approval to fly there. It is VERY doubtful that LAANC approval would be given for a 0 grid area.

What the majority of the U.S. population is "ripe" for is more reasons to ban drones ENTIRELY. These three idiots have just given people another reason to "fear" drones, another reason to dislike and distrust drone pilots, and another reason for Congress (under pressure from their constituents) to ban drones.

So, yeah, if these morons are guilty, you are darn tootin' I want them prosecuted to the fullest extend of the law. I want the punishment to be as severe as possible. I want them to be an example so that others might think twice before doing something stupid that affects other people. And the drone community should be UNITED in scorning these types of idiots.

Mark

CNN is fake news. I'll believe the facts when I read them in a charging document or an affidavit.