Are Automatics , technology & AI ruining skills and the industry ?

[Pacefast]

My background is Aviation as a Captain past 27 years on corporate jets with an ATPL
I am trying to build a small drone business and am self taught in flying and editing to a good standard!

A week ago a young lady jumped out of a real estate sgents car. She took out a mini 4 pro took it vertically up to 30 / 40 feet and took pictures of a house !
Having a chat her knowledge was almost zero

Is technology and automatics making drones too easy to fly meaning potential work for skilled pilots is drying up ?

I can see on the editing side where AI is taking over editing skills That soon you will up load your footage and AI will churn out an edited version with timed music, Transitions intros etc all applied ?

I remember in General Aviation the Cirrus SR 20/ 21 with its BRS recovery and automatic safety features was ecouraging pilots to fly out of their skill levels, knowing that if they lost it at night or in cloud bad weather they only had to instigate the Chute
Engine failures where pilots practised forced landings into fields in event of engine failures were frowned on by Cirrus who now considered pulling the chute a better option than skills attempting an off field landing !

Be interested to hear others opinions on Drone technology , Automation and AiI removing the need for learned skilld ?

 

[Felix le Chat]

My background is Aviation as a Captain past 27 years on corporate jets with an ATPL
I am trying to build a small drone business and am self taught in flying and editing to a good standard!

A week ago a young lady jumped out of a real estate sgents car. She took out a mini 4 pro took it vertically up to 30 / 40 feet and took pictures of a house !
Having a chat her knowledge was almost zero

Is technology and automatics making drones too easy to fly meaning potential work for skilled pilots is drying up ?

I can see on the editing side where AI is taking over editing skills That soon you will up load your footage and AI will churn out an edited version with timed music, Transitions intros etc all applied ?

I remember in General Aviation the Cirrus SR 20/ 21 with its BRS recovery and automatic safety features was ecouraging pilots to fly out of their skill levels, knowing that if they lost it at night or in cloud bad weather they only had to instigate the Chute
Engine failures where pilots practised forced landings into fields in event of engine failures were frowned on by Cirrus who now considered pulling the chute a better option than skills attempting an off field landing !

Be interested to hear others opinions on Drone technology , Automation and AiI removing the need for learned skilld ?

Agree.

'AI' is making people lazy to the degree that it's no longer necessary to have any store of knowledge, or to actually think - just type a badly worded query into one of the 'AI Assistants' built into most browsers and hey presto! a quick cut and paste and it looks like you're sophisticated and well informed.

Same with AI assistance with still photography and video... a few shots or video clips, no understanding of post processing or editing because you don't really need to have expended the mental effort to learn something and get better through trial and error.. a couple of mouse clicks and hey presto! it looks like you're a pro... give it a few more years and all you'll see is homogenised pap without a shred of style or individuality.

I thought technology was meant to elevate, not turn us into a load of push-button dummies.

 

[Pacefast]

>>I thought technology was meant to elevate, not turn us into a load of push-button dummies.<<<

As in Aviation Technology should enhance NOT replace SKILLS
Every day I see my editing program turn more and more AI and frankly fake
Just for fun I took one of my videos at the point I flipped from the drone with s transition to an underwater shot and added a White shark ! Very realistic but totally fake and I would never post that

 

[Kilrah]

Is technology and automatics making drones too easy to fly meaning potential work for skilled pilots is drying up ?

Yes and no... the low cost and ease means that (even doing everything right) it's cheaper for companies like real estate developers who want regular drone work done to buy a drone and hire someone to fly it than to hire an external company, that means it might be difficult to make a drone business, but you could be the one hired by a company to do their flying. So pilots maybe not - pilots wanting to also be entrepreneurs probably yes.

A service business makes sense when it requires tools and skills that are expensive and thus not justifiable for a single entity, it essentially drives the cost down by servicing multiple customers with the one expensive thing. Once it gets cheap and easy enough there's no reason to pool the resources anymore so everyone gets their own since that's cheaper than paying for a third party provider's business costs.

 

[mavic3usa]

AI is still a work in progress; it will get there soon. Remember how it started, it was really bad. It's coming along nicely now and I'm sure it will become something that everyone can use and appreciate. it just needs more time.

 

[Nanny Ogg]

AI may make some things easier, but I doubt that it will produce something truly creative or innovative. Just as autopilots have assisted flying an airplane, I don't think many people would want to ride in an airplane piloted by an AI bot.

 

[mavic3usa]

AI may make some things easier, but I doubt that it will produce something truly creative or innovative. Just as autopilots have assisted flying an airplane, I don't think many people would want to ride in an airplane piloted by an AI bot.

When AI works the way it supposed to, this is what AI will prevent. We've done everything we can to prevent this and nothing is working. AI will fix this by not allowing that jet to accelerate down the runway and collide with a bunch of innocent passengers because the pilot made a mistake or the tower made a bad call; this is going to end if AI is done properly.

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[Kilrah]

When AI works the way it supposed to, this is what AI will prevent.

That's a thing automation and logic can prevent.
AI is just an unpredictable black box nobody can tell or understand exactly how it works or how it will behave, so sometimes it'll prevent it, sometimes it'll actually send it down on purpose because it's hallucinated something somewhere.

AI isn't deterministic, it won't be used in such scenarios anytime soon/without an entirely new thing that doesn't exist yet that is and that replaces it.

 

[Pacefast]

AI may make some things easier, but I doubt that it will produce something truly creative or innovative. Just as autopilots have assisted flying an airplane, I don't think many people would want to ride in an airplane piloted by an AI bot.

Autopilots notoriously go wrong and much of sim
training involves failing everything ! The pilot has to be able to fly raw data in cloud with everything failing inc an engine !
Fairly recently upset handing was brought into sim training as pilots were losing their basic handling skills reliant on technology
The same with Drone flying Technology should be an addition to basic skills and not to make up for a lack of those skills which I fear is now happening in flying drones and editing footage

 

[hank970]

My background is Aviation as a Captain past 27 years on corporate jets with an ATPL
I am trying to build a small drone business and am self taught in flying and editing to a good standard!

A week ago a young lady jumped out of a real estate sgents car. She took out a mini 4 pro took it vertically up to 30 / 40 feet and took pictures of a house !
Having a chat her knowledge was almost zero

Is technology and automatics making drones too easy to fly meaning potential work for skilled pilots is drying up ?

I can see on the editing side where AI is taking over editing skills That soon you will up load your footage and AI will churn out an edited version with timed music, Transitions intros etc all applied ?

I remember in General Aviation the Cirrus SR 20/ 21 with its BRS recovery and automatic safety features was ecouraging pilots to fly out of their skill levels, knowing that if they lost it at night or in cloud bad weather they only had to instigate the Chute
Engine failures where pilots practised forced landings into fields in event of engine failures were frowned on by Cirrus who now considered pulling the chute a better option than skills attempting an off field landing !

Be interested to hear others opinions on Drone technology , Automation and AiI removing the need for learned skilld ?

Yes, advancing technology is going to render some skills obsolete and displace some workers, as it always has since the dawn of time. A camera drone is a tool -- a tool that anyone can use, albeit with varying degrees of success. One need not be a retired corporate pilot to successfully operate a drone and capture and edit useful real estate shots. If the young lady is happy with the results she gets, and if they enhance her ability to sell real estate, good for her. And if she isn't pleased with the results she gets and decides to hire someone else, then maybe she'll hire you. If she does hire you, she'll be interested only in results, not in the amount of advanced technology you chose to use or not use to create those results. In this instance, it's the destination that matters, not the route taken.

 

[Pacefast]

I am not targeting real estate
My point is there will be no need for skilled drone pilots or Editors
AI is already a concern not just in drones but many occupations of putting skilled people out of work ! That is already acknowledged by Govt
military drones are already close to flying pilotless missions
Again already a very basic self thinking Electronic brain has been created

 

[hank970]

I am not targeting real estate
My point is there will be no need for skilled drone pilots or Editors
AI is already a concern not just in drones but many occupations of putting skilled people out of work ! That is already acknowledged by Govt
military drones are already close to flying pilotless missions
Again already a very basic self thinking Electronic brain has been created

That may be true. There's less demand nowadays, at least in first-world countries, for folks who make stone tools and wooden yokes for oxen.

I don't know what the future holds for many skilled occupations that are rendered obsolete by emerging technologies, but I'm delighted that some of those technologies have opened new doors for me. That said, the pace of change is ever more rapid, and some of those doors don't stay open for very long before slamming shut.

 

[Felix le Chat]

When AI works the way it supposed to, this is what AI will prevent. We've done everything we can to prevent this and nothing is working. AI will fix this by not allowing that jet to accelerate down the runway and collide with a bunch of innocent passengers because the pilot made a mistake or the tower made a bad call; this is going to end if AI is done properly.

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AI will fix everything? Like the Google car? Didn't that have the distinction of being the first safe autonomous vehicle to turn a pedestrian into a greasy smear?

 

[mavic3usa]

AI will fix everything? Like the Google car? Didn't that have the distinction of being the first safe autonomous vehicle to turn a pedestrian into a greasy smear?

I don't know if it will fix everything but it will fix a lot and by that, I mean the downright stupid stuff that is still happening to us despite our best efforts. but we are not there yet, AI is going through some rough phases where everyone is still trying to make money off of it rather than putting it to work. It's going to be awhile but it will happen.

I think once it catches on with real work and real results, it will take off.

 

[hank970]

AI will fix everything? Like the Google car? Didn't that have the distinction of being the first safe autonomous vehicle to turn a pedestrian into a greasy smear?

AI and autonomous driving cars are in their infancy. Waiting a decade or two before judging its capabilities and competency might be wise. What concerns me more about AI is the widespread harm it could (and will) do in the wrong hands.

 

[Flying Shroppie]

I'm sure there was a lot of negativity said about the Wright brothers Fancy the thought of a man going up in the air supported on a collection of sticks and string and their mother's house curtains. I'm glad it never caught on.
Then there was that Mr Ford with his horseless carriages, another one I'm glad never caught on.

 

[anotherlab]

AI will fix everything? Like the Google car? Didn't that have the distinction of being the first safe autonomous vehicle to turn a pedestrian into a greasy smear?

That's not what he was describing. I think he was referring to AI-assisted systems that would analyze all of the incoming flights and would warn ATC and the pilots when there would be a risk of collision.

 

[Felix le Chat]

That's not what he was describing. I think he was referring to AI-assisted systems that would analyze all of the incoming flights and would warn ATC and the pilots when there would be a risk of collision.

What I was hinting at was the inability of any AI system to account for chaotic action.

Safe AI can only function safely in an environment where everything else around it is also autonomously controlled (like the ATC systems you describe) and doesn't have to rely on human input or have to interact with a human at all... hence the 'Google car' reference where it was 'confused' by a chaotic variable (the pedestrian) and... WHAMMO!

 

[Felix le Chat]

I'm sure there was a lot of negativity said about the Wright brothers Fancy the thought of a man going up in the air supported on a collection of sticks and string and their mother's house curtains. I'm glad it never caught on.
Then there was that Mr Ford with his horseless carriages, another one I'm glad never caught on.

If I were a Luddite: I wouldn't be flying drones or using computers, I'd be smacking them with lump hammers.

Your references to those new-fangled flying machines and horseless carriages doesn't really take one very important thing into consideration. Planes, trains & automobiles are all controlled by something that started life with two eyes, two arms, two legs and a lump of grey jelly keeping their ears from meeting in the middle.

With AI features in both production and post production photography: I suppose it all depends on whether you're happy with being the raw data entry clerk, or whether you think you'd prefer to develop the skills to be the director.

 

[BossBob]

You still need to have the intelligence to verify whatever information you are fed. It’s no good just looking at the source and believing it because it’s AI or even another human. To many people in power spreading theories not backed by science is as bad as an AI trained on bad data.