Avata 2 Maximum Pitch Angle

[HopwoodBoy70]

Hi all.

I've been an FPV pilot for several years, flying acro on 3", 5", 7" 4S and 6S home built quads, often with a GoPro strapped on top! I recently bought an Avata 2 as I wanted some new HD goggles anyway (hoping for O4 Air Unit to arrive soon!) and thought the Avata 2 would be fun, give some nice cinematic footage, as well as being easy to travel with.

However, here's my question. Is it possible to adjust the maximum pitch angle on the Avata 2 when flying in either Normal, or Sport mode?

I have got the FPV Remote as well, and I have full Manual mode enabled, with rates set to my preference, which of course means full control over pitch and everything else. But... Normal/Sport mode are actually really good for filming with, especially the altitude hold control which is nice when flying over water. Problem is, at max throttle, even with max forward pitch, the Avata 2 will still climb rather than simply go faster at the same altitude.

I'm guessing the pitch is locked to limit the forward speed in these modes? But any way round it would be great. Thanks

 

[slup]

Doubt that you will find any possibility to mod tilt angles through DJI's own apps, but you could try Drone Hacks app (the Avata 2 is supported) & there use the free parameter change function & search for a parameter that changes the max tilt angle in normal or sport.

But even if you find a way you will probably still be limited by the max ground speed that you can't change by a parameter change.

 

[Cafguy]

When you fly a DJI Drone in a "MODE", You are not flying like you would be flying a freestyle in ACRO.
Your DJI Drone will act as if you put it in angle mode and the pitch will be limited.

 

[Droning on and on...]

When you fly a DJI Drone in a "MODE", You are not flying like you would be flying a freestyle in ACRO.
Your DJI Drone will act as if you put it in angle mode and the pitch will be limited.

Also keep in mind that in angle mode the "throttle" stick is not a throttle, but rather an altitude control, commanding "go up" or "go down", independent of the pitch control. So if you push the stick up past center the drone will climb, regardless of pitch position.

The combined pitch/throttle action you're used to in rate mode (a.k.a. Manual, or "acro") to control speed and altitude in an interlocking, dependent manner doesn't apply.

This is why it's best to re-spring the throttle stick for extensive N/S flying. Otherwise it's very easy to position the throttle stick a little off-center and find your drone slowly ascending/descending.

 

[HopwoodBoy70]

When you fly a DJI Drone in a "MODE", You are not flying like you would be flying a freestyle in ACRO.
Your DJI Drone will act as if you put it in angle mode and the pitch will be limited.

Yeah, appreciate it's limited, but was hoping there may be a bit of 'tweaking' possible like you can alter the max angle for Angle in Betaflight. No big deal as Manual is crazy easy on this after my other FPV quads. I was more interested to see if it would allow me to be lazy

 

[HopwoodBoy70]

Also keep in mind that in angle mode the "throttle" stick is not a throttle, but rather an altitude control, commanding "go up" or "go down", independent of the pitch control. So if you push the stick up past center the drone will climb, regardless of pitch position.

The combined pitch/throttle action you're used to in rate mode (a.k.a. Manual, or "acro") to control speed and altitude in an interlocking, dependent manner doesn't apply.

This is why it's best to re-spring the throttle stick for extensive N/S flying. Otherwise it's very easy to position the throttle stick a little off-center and find your drone slowly ascending/descending.

Ah yes, good point! It is odd flying the Avata 2 in Normal or Sport mode. Maybe not odd, just different, even to flying in Angle mode on my other quads. Will take a while for the muscle memory to change I guess

I've only had one DJI quad before - the original Mavic Air - and that was a totally different machine to this A2. Loving it so far though. Different to my racing / freestyle FPV quads, but different in a really good, enjoyable way.

Is it wrong to say I actually really love the Motion Controller 3? It is a genius control system - even my GF can fly with it. Problem is now she wants to have a go with my 6S Source One 7"

 

[Droning on and on...]

Yeah, appreciate it's limited, but was hoping there may be a bit of 'tweaking' possible like you can alter the max angle for Angle in Betaflight. No big deal as Manual is crazy easy on this after my other FPV quads. I was more interested to see if it would allow me to be lazy

Another thing that will throw you off is the "pitch" stick only indirectly controls pitch in N/S modes. It's really a ground speed control.

The Flight Controller will control attitude, in this case pitch, to maintain a GPS ground speed proportional to stick deflection. Full stick in Sport will get you ~35mph over the ground, whether flying upwind or down. Up to the limit of maximum tilt angle, which allows for around 8-10mph wind before being unable to maintain max specified ground speed.

In N/S modes, the FC does most of the flying

 

[Droning on and on...]

Is it wrong to say I actually really love the Motion Controller 3? It is a genius control system - even my GF can fly with it. Problem is now she wants to have a go with my 6S Source One 7"

Yeah, some will slag on you for liking the MC.

Not me. I adore it, and it's probably 75% of my Avata flying. And I'm pretty good at manual these days, and love that too, but it's exhausting

At 62, I really love zooming around like a jet fighter with MC, shooting gaps, doing lawnmower on open fields and whipping around bushes, etc., then just letting go of the throttle when I need a break and have it stop in place and hover.

 

[AlanzFPV]

Another thing that will throw you off is the "pitch" stick only indirectly controls pitch in N/S modes. It's really a ground speed control.

The Flight Controller will control attitude, in this case pitch, to maintain a GPS ground speed proportional to stick deflection. Full stick in Sport will get you ~35mph over the ground, whether flying upwind or down. Up to the limit of maximum tilt angle, which allows for around 8-10mph wind before being unable to maintain max specified ground speed.

In N/S modes, the FC does most of the flying

What Droning On and On said is spot on. I will say that I found the altitude control using normal mode with the Remote control 3 very useful. In full manual I would still have little altitude bobbles when flying slow. Using normal mode and being careful with the left stick, I did a bunch of slow cruising through tree branches With almost perfect altitude control. Combine that with the ability to change the gimbal angle on the fly, and I expect to get some nice slow cruise footage in the future. Seems it would be perfect for real estate fly-throughs and such.

 

[GadgetGuy]

What Droning On and On said is spot on. I will say that I found the altitude control using normal mode with the Remote control 3 very useful. In full manual I would still have little altitude bobbles when flying slow. Using normal mode and being careful with the left stick, I did a bunch of slow cruising through tree branches With almost perfect altitude control. Combine that with the ability to change the gimbal angle on the fly, and I expect to get some nice slow cruise footage in the future. Seems it would be perfect for real estate fly-throughs and such.

Having practiced in N mode with the RC 3 in and out of a vacant rental house I manage, I can attest to its worthiness for that purpose! Just be careful, as the turbulence will suck up any floor mats and every dust bunny along the floor, and wreak havoc with the curtains! Flying along the floor and along the ceiling gives a totally unique perspective, as you fly from room to room, creating a video tour, almost like SWAT clearing every room in a house looking for a suspect! Flying in and out of the house through open doors and windows without screens and over the roof and around the exterior perimeter and over fences and then flying straight up and back straight down from 200 feet is lots of fun, too. Just find a day the neighbors aren't around, as the noise will definitely attract unwanted attention, unless strictly indoors. I also just ordered two 650 lumen flashlights that can be mounted on each side of the Avata 2 for exploring in the dark, and lighting up closets and abandoned building exploration. Speaking of closets, hide in one yourself during your interior real estate videos, to not be seen, and look out for bathroom mirrors, unless you want the Avata 2 on camera, too!!

 

[AlanzFPV]

Well written. Thanks for that insight!

 

[HopwoodBoy70]

Having practiced in N mode with the RC 3 in and out of a vacant rental house I manage, I can attest to its worthiness for that purpose! Just be careful, as the turbulence will suck up any floor mats and every dust bunny along the floor, and wreak havoc with the curtains! Flying along the floor and along the ceiling gives a totally unique perspective, as you fly from room to room, creating a video tour, almost like SWAT clearing every room in a house looking for a suspect! Flying in and out of the house through open doors and windows without screens and over the roof and around the exterior perimeter and over fences and then flying straight up and back straight down from 200 feet is lots of fun, too. Just find a day the neighbors aren't around, as the noise will definitely attract unwanted attention, unless strictly indoors. I also just ordered two 650 lumen flashlights that can be mounted on each side of the Avata 2 for exploring in the dark, and lighting up closets and abandoned building exploration. Speaking of closets, hide in one yourself during your interior real estate videos, to not be seen, and look out for bathroom mirrors, unless you want the Avata 2 on camera, too!!

I wondered where you were going when you suggested hiding in the closet!!

Funnily enough, I had a play around flying through my house yesterday, much to my dogs' consternation! I showed my girlfriend who thought I'd just filmed it on my phone, until I magically levitated out of the upstairs window and over the roof

I'm actually really enjoying using this Avata2, although it does feel a bit like cheating compared to 'real' FPV drone flying. But there's definitely room for both types in my life

 

[GadgetGuy]

I wondered where you were going when you suggested hiding in the closet!!

Funnily enough, I had a play around flying through my house yesterday, much to my dogs' consternation! I showed my girlfriend who thought I'd just filmed it on my phone, until I magically levitated out of the upstairs window and over the roof

I'm actually really enjoying using this Avata2, although it does feel a bit like cheating compared to 'real' FPV drone flying. But there's definitely room for both types in my life

Coming out of the closet was much more difficult! LOL! I couldn’t see in the dark to find the edge to pull on, and turning on the "see through" capability didn't help any in the dark. By the time the flight was over, I was a little disoriented. Eventually, I was able to "transition" to the outside!