Computer advise... thanks. CLOSED

[Shivers]

Ok so the quick and easy question, with some background.

Currently own Mavic 2 With SC
A regular IPad with 128g storage (newest not pro!)
Old MacBook Pro that won’t edit 4K natively.
I have not edited Videos yet due to hardware.

I have download LumaFusion and the extra extensions... I know it won’t work on Mac, but does on iPhone (new iPhone 11 pro max)
Should I stick with the regular iPad with LumaFusion, or purchase a new IMac 27” 5k with 8gig ram (will upgrade) and so fourth. Cause I think a iPad Pro will be a little less... But much less hardware.

considering all options. Even windows. Trying to purchase today!
Again, I have not used software yet due to not knowing how to use LumaFusion (plan to watch the videos today)

This question is geared towards those who know and have!! Not to tossing out random “yeah, do it”
I ask the ones with experience only speak up!
Looking to purchase today! At Best Buy I can get the new Imac 5k 27” for 1399.99. As opposed to 1799.99. Don’t know if Bb has iPad sales yet, but what ever they are, I also have a 100 dollar coupon.

again, looking for help... thanks so much.

 

[Shivers]

Yes the Hardware debate. Sorry to ask advise. Figure this was general conversation...

 

[IShouldBeWorking]

Yes the Hardware debate.

I think you’re going to find people have success with editing with either tool. I come from the camp that started editing before tablets were a thing. I use a 2019 iMac with DaVinci Resolve to edit. It works great. I like using the huge, colorful screen and I really appreciate the big storage size and the built-in SD reader.

But I’ve heard from numerous people here and on my YouTube channel that they love their iPads and LumaFusion. It’s a different workflow but I’d recommend just doing what feels most comfortable to you. After all, you’re the one who has to live with the choice. [emoji3]

Good luck!

 

[RickinWaST]

Here’s my two cents...
1) Don’t be in a hurry with a major computer investment.

2) Determine what your overall video product goals are.

3) Don't rely on Best Buy to provide you with 100% accurate information when it comes to the right computer for the editing software you choose. Sure, they can be one source, but get more input.

4) LumaFusion -Make sure you fully understand how the iPad works with external devises, such as a SSD, or HD, etc. As you may know, video consumes a great deal of hard drive space.

Good luck in your decision and keep us posted. Oh, there is a dedicated forum on editing.

 

[ZX14-R]

Ya get what ya pay for - Just got to add Keyboard, Mouse to this...

This is my 4K Editing PC.

Editing PC:
OS: Windows 10 64bit HOME
MB: Gigabyte EX58 UDP Z390UD
CPU: Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-8700 CPU @ 3.20GHz, 3192 Mhz, 6 Core(s), 12 Logical Processor(s)
RAM: 16GB DDR4 (2 x 8GB Gskill DDR 2600)
2 x 60cm Monitors
1 x 1TB Samsung SSD
1 x 10TB Segate HDD
2 x 3TB Segate HDD
2 x 300GB 1000RPM HDD (SWAP/EDITING)
Thermaltake X71 TG Case
Antec Kuhler K120 Liquid CPU Cooler
Thermaltake 650W 80+ Gold PSU
VIDEO: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB GDDR5

 

[hactick]

Ya get what ya pay for - Just got to add Keyboard, Mouse to this...

This is my 4K Editing PC.

Editing PC:
OS: Windows 10 64bit HOME
MB: Gigabyte EX58 UDP Z390UD
CPU: Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-8700 CPU @ 3.20GHz, 3192 Mhz, 6 Core(s), 12 Logical Processor(s)
RAM: 16GB DDR4 (2 x 8GB Gskill DDR 2600)
2 x 60cm Monitors
1 x 1TB Samsung SSD
1 x 10TB Segate HDD
2 x 3TB Segate HDD
2 x 300GB 1000RPM HDD (SWAP/EDITING)
Thermaltake X71 TG Case
Antec Kuhler K120 Liquid CPU Cooler
Thermaltake 650W 80+ Gold PSU
VIDEO: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB GDDR5

Seems like the ram might be a bottleneck. But nice setup. Do you still need to use render cache in davinci when editing 4K on that setup?

 

[Shivers]

Ya get what ya pay for - Just got to add Keyboard, Mouse to this...

This is my 4K Editing PC.

Editing PC:
OS: Windows 10 64bit HOME
MB: Gigabyte EX58 UDP Z390UD
CPU: Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-8700 CPU @ 3.20GHz, 3192 Mhz, 6 Core(s), 12 Logical Processor(s)
RAM: 16GB DDR4 (2 x 8GB Gskill DDR 2600)
2 x 60cm Monitors
1 x 1TB Samsung SSD
1 x 10TB Segate HDD
2 x 3TB Segate HDD
2 x 300GB 1000RPM HDD (SWAP/EDITING)
Thermaltake X71 TG Case
Antec Kuhler K120 Liquid CPU Cooler
Thermaltake 650W 80+ Gold PSU
VIDEO: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB GDDR5

Thanks, and that’s one heck of a machine.. back in the day, I prob would have just made one, ran windows 10 and been done. But, I do like Apple products, and they work! For the amount of storage, and what you got... I would have figured you to run about double that memory. I’m a Amateur hobbyist, at most... looking for a good all around system. I planed to run boot camp with win 10 or something, but we will see if I even need it.
I feel like an IPad is so darn small to edit and see everything you need to see...
The 5k display, 27” is sweet to me... plus th3se machines you can upgrade the ram on.. thank god Apple did not kill this machine from taking ram.

did not pull the trigger yesterday... to take an extra day to learn and listen. I assumed I would get a wide area of comments, which is welcomed. Thank you all for stopping by and letter me know your thoughts.

 

[Dale D]

Ok so the quick and easy question, with some background.

Currently own Mavic 2 With SC
A regular IPad with 128g storage (newest not pro!)
Old MacBook Pro that won’t edit 4K natively.
I have not edited Videos yet due to hardware.

I have download LumaFusion and the extra extensions... I know it won’t work on Mac, but does on iPhone (new iPhone 11 pro max)
Should I stick with the regular iPad with LumaFusion, or purchase a new IMac 27” 5k with 8gig ram (will upgrade) and so fourth. Cause I think a iPad Pro will be a little less... But much less hardware.

considering all options. Even windows. Trying to purchase today!
Again, I have not used software yet due to not knowing how to use LumaFusion (plan to watch the videos today)

This question is geared towards those who know and have!! Not to tossing out random “yeah, do it”
I ask the ones with experience only speak up!
Looking to purchase today! At Best Buy I can get the new Imac 5k 27” for 1399.99. As opposed to 1799.99. Don’t know if Bb has iPad sales yet, but what ever they are, I also have a 100 dollar coupon.

again, looking for help... thanks so much.

I am doing video now, and was having all sorts of trouble with a slow processor in both my desk top (Dell PC) and my lap top (old Apple Mac Book Pro) so I have upgraded to a new iMAC (see specs on attachment) and a new Mac Book Pro with i7 processor and the fastest I could buy. So now I can even edit video (with Adobe Premier Pro) without having to do proxy.

 

[Johnmcl7]

The question is what type of device do you want to use? Personally I prefer to have a beefy desktop to work on video editing for a number of reasons and wouldn't even consider video editing on a tablet device however there are some people here who prefer using a tablet for video editing for their own reasons.

 

[Shivers]

Well, I’m rusty with the hardware.... but when I was On point, I would have both machines... risk and cisk.. (windows and Os) I don’t have much room right now, and laptop feels small... ipad more so.
I like the Imac option. The 27” allows memory upgrades to 32 gig. Comes with 1tb fusion drive (32gig ssd on board) which I’m sure space wise will be ok, but will change to SSd after warranty... wait time on a unit with SSD is over a month.
I just want to make sure the Imac will do what I need. Being a complete novice with software, I’ll have to learn something.

 

[IShouldBeWorking]

Well, I’m rusty with the hardware.... but when I was On point, I would have both machines... risk and cisk.. (windows and Os) I don’t have much room right now, and laptop feels small... ipad more so.
I like the Imac option. The 27” allows memory upgrades to 32 gig. Comes with 1tb fusion drive (32gig ssd on board) which I’m sure space wise will be ok, but will change to SSd after warranty... wait time on a unit with SSD is over a month.
I just want to make sure the Imac will do what I need. Being a complete novice with software, I’ll have to learn something.

That’s almost exactly how mine is spec’d out. I put in 32 gigs of RAM and have the 2TB hybrid drive. The 9th gen core chip plays h265s off my Mavic 2 Pro super-smooth. And you’ll love the 27” 5k screen. It’s a joy to edit on.

 

[Johnmcl7]

Well, I’m rusty with the hardware.... but when I was On point, I would have both machines... risk and cisk.. (windows and Os) I don’t have much room right now, and laptop feels small... ipad more so.
I like the Imac option. The 27” allows memory upgrades to 32 gig. Comes with 1tb fusion drive (32gig ssd on board) which I’m sure space wise will be ok, but will change to SSd after warranty... wait time on a unit with SSD is over a month.
I just want to make sure the Imac will do what I need. Being a complete novice with software, I’ll have to learn something.

Although the iMac is very limited compared to a standard desktop it's still a safer bet than a laptop or similar where these days upgrades are very limited so you have to be very careful what you buy. I was going to say I'd be more careful with the processor as that's more difficult replace in time and it can make a noticeable different to video rendering but I've had a quick look on the Apple site and the base iMac comes with a hex core i5 which will still be a strong performer.

 

[Gizmo6257]

A windows machine is easy and can build a better computer cheaper. Watch origanal dobo video on his new build. I just built a bad to the bone pc with Ryzen 3700, Nice Fatboy 590 gpu and it is so fast. It is like origanal dobos. Macs are to expensive and you won't get near the specs for the money. Only one reason to use Mac, if you use Final Cut.

Ok so the quick and easy question, with some background.

Currently own Mavic 2 With SC
A regular IPad with 128g storage (newest not pro!)
Old MacBook Pro that won’t edit 4K natively.
I have not edited Videos yet due to hardware.

I have download LumaFusion and the extra extensions... I know it won’t work on Mac, but does on iPhone (new iPhone 11 pro max)
Should I stick with the regular iPad with LumaFusion, or purchase a new IMac 27” 5k with 8gig ram (will upgrade) and so fourth. Cause I think a iPad Pro will be a little less... But much less hardware.

considering all options. Even windows. Trying to purchase today!
Again, I have not used software yet due to not knowing how to use LumaFusion (plan to watch the videos today)

This question is geared towards those who know and have!! Not to tossing out random “yeah, do it”
I ask the ones with experience only speak up!
Looking to purchase today! At Best Buy I can get the new Imac 5k 27” for 1399.99. As opposed to 1799.99. Don’t know if Bb has iPad sales yet, but what ever they are, I also have a 100 dollar coupon.

again, looking for help... thanks so much.

 

[Gizmo6257]

Also, AMD Ryzen cpus are blowing Intel away for video editing. A lot cheaper too.

A windows machine is easy and can build a better computer cheaper. Watch origanal dobo video on his new build. I just built a bad to the bone pc with Ryzen 3700, Nice Fatboy 590 gpu and it is so fast. It is like origanal dobos. Macs are to expensive and you won't get near the specs for the money. Only one reason to use Mac, if you use Final Cut.

 

[Shivers]

Yes, I know that I can build a machine with much stronger hardware.... But the software is the lack.... Windows machines are not stable. In the EULA, they make sure to say in the older copy’s, don’t use on anything you need to be reliable! Lolol. It’s just funny. But, your right... much better hardware.

As for everyone else, you put my mind at ease! For now I’ll grab that machine, and start with that! Jack the memory up myself, and worry about the hard drive at another time. Once factory warranty is up, SSD install looks like it will take sick for the H-D, and new lcd foam tape. I see Boot camp is still current if I need windows! Also, one thing I also remember about the Imac is the ability to use an external drive to boot from... wonder how bad that bottle neck would be.
Thank you all!
appreciate it.

 

[anotherlab]

Yes, I know that I can build a machine with much stronger hardware.... But the software is the lack.... Windows machines are not stable.

Your mileage may vary. ?‍

I haven't crashed a Windows 10 machine in years. I'm a developer and I tend to beta test a lot of stuff. Most of the crashes that I have seen on other computers have been related to dodgy video drivers, people over-clocking their systems without adequate cooling, and antivirus apps going too far.

 

[Johnmcl7]

When it comes to OSX vs Windows I tend to just go with the OS people prefer since I find people don't usually want to switch. The iMac isn't the optimal video editing machine but in the Apple range I think it's a sensible choice for video editing, the iMac Pro is massively more expensive and its processor isn't hugely faster for the price, the Mac Pro isn't out yet and will be similarly pricey, the Mac Mini doesn't offer any better performance and the hex core i5 in the iMac is a solid performer.

I do agree about Ryzen performance (planning a 3900x build at the moment) and Windows stability but then admittedly I'm not a fan of OSX so I can appreciate why people wouldn't want to switch the other way.

 

[Mossiback]

I recommend you first shop for the software. That will tell you the hardware needed to run it. Just don't satisfy the minimum requirements because although it will work, you won't like it.

 

[Shivers]

Your mileage may vary. ?‍

I haven't crashed a Windows 10 machine in years. I'm a developer and I tend to beta test a lot of stuff. Most of the crashes that I have seen on other computers have been related to dodgy video drivers, people over-clocking their systems without adequate cooling, and antivirus apps going too far.

I get that! But, take away the overclocking, video drivers are something we have to take, as well Antivirus.. to an extent. And I’ll admit, it’s more of a third party issue... Adobe, Nero, Office blah blah... that stuff quitting, and or restarting explorer.exe.
So, I’m also not a hardcore editor... sort of why I went with this unit. The MacBooks 15” are quads, and the 13” have intel video cards. The Mac Pro is not out, but if the IMac Pro is 4999, I can only imagine. I consider the mini, with the added video unit to help... but I hear that’s junk.

I also understand trying software.. But, that can also lead down a crap road with what I have currently. Imac also comes with IMovie.. which is a start.. lots of considerations. This Imac will allow memory upgrades, and this is what I’ll do right off the bat! Up it to the max, on my own. 8 gigs from Apple is 200.00. Surly I can do a little better.

 

[Johnmcl7]

I get that! But, take away the overclocking, video drivers are something we have to take, as well Antivirus.. to an extent. And I’ll admit, it’s more of a third party issue... Adobe, Nero, Office blah blah... that stuff quitting, and or restarting explorer.exe.

I get that you want an OSX machine and that's fine it's your preference but I spend a lot of time working with Windows machines and don't have any of the problems you've mentioned, at least not since the XP days which were thankfully a long time ago now. I'm not sure what you mean by 'video drivers are something we have to take' which you seem to imply as a negative, Windows generally has built in video card drivers, they're not hard to install if you need them and video cards are one of the big weaknesses of the Apple platform due to the lack of support of any of the decent video cards with no support for Nvidia RTX at all. I had to double check this but remarkably it's still true and I suspect their lack of Ryzen 3 support will really hurt them in the next few months given the performance in both consumer and even more so in HEDT setups. Microsoft's built in AV is rated one of the best and sits quietly in the background although these days the main threat to the system is additional bundled applications people don't realise they're installing which while irritating are usually easily removed.

I have a high performance desktop which is used for video editing, blu-ray encoding, gaming, wireless VR, photo processing etc. and I can't think of a time it's had any sort of noticeable crash apart from when it's had a hardware failure in which case all the parts are standard and it was easily repaired or upgraded.

I don't like further this OSx vs Windows but I really dislike seeing people basing their opinion on Windows on 20 year old versions and seemingly entirely unaware about its current state.