Could the end be nigh?

[Jussaguy]

Proposed Rules Would Allow U.S. to Track and Destroy Drones

The Trump administration is asking Congress to give the federal government sweeping powers to track, hack and destroy any type of drone over domestic soil with a new exception to laws governing surveillance, computer privacy and aircraft protection, according to a document obtained by The New York Times.

The document is a 10-page draft and summary of legislation the executive branch circulated among several congressional committees on Tuesday, according to a congressional aide. The administration also scheduled a classified briefing on Wednesday for congressional staff members to discuss the topic, the aide said.

 

[wayy510]

Yeah, it's called DJIs new and required firmware "update".

 

[mw174620]

Interesting. Sounds like this is pointed towards military operations or government facilities/operations, or government employees that need higher levels of protection, not just nation wide destruction of drones in the air without consent.

(d)(4) develop standards and procedures for heads of departments and agencies to designate a covered facility, location, or installation, a covered operation, or a covered person, which shall ensure that only individuals with appropriate training and acting subject to Federal Government oversight are designated as covered persons.

 

[adiru]

Proposed Rules Would Allow U.S. to Track and Destroy Drones

What?

What happened to the "forgotten people will be forgotten no longer"?

Why is Trump not fighting for our drone rights?

 

[Turnerm]

Yep. The end is near folks. Build a bunker and stock it full of potatoes and water. Don't forget the tinfoil hat.

 

[Former Member]

Already a duplicate thread going on this. Please use the other one.

Rules proposed to allow US to track and destroy drones

 

[Jussaguy]

Yeah, it's called DJIs new and required firmware "update".

Yup.

DJI to Require Drone Registration to Activate Drones

 

[Jussaguy]

Yep. The end is near folks. Build a bunker and stock it full of potatoes and water. Don't forget the tinfoil hat.

I didn't say the end of the world. It's the beginning of the end of US freedom to fly our toys even reasonably.

 

[Jussaguy]

Interesting. Sounds like this is pointed towards military operations or government facilities/operations, or government employees that need higher levels of protection, not just nation wide destruction of drones in the air without consent.

(d)(4) develop standards and procedures for heads of departments and agencies to designate a covered facility, location, or installation, a covered operation, or a covered person, which shall ensure that only individuals with appropriate training and acting subject to Federal Government oversight are designated as covered persons.

You think those are well defined?

 

[Jussaguy]

100%

It's amazing how many people are arguing the opposite - we should have no rules, no regulations, MUH FREEDUMBZ!!! EVIL GOOBERMINTS!!!

It's ridiculous and short sighted. If the commercial industry, never mind the hobby side, is to survive long-term, we need strict regulation and we need it NOW. We are one major incident away from a public outcry to flat-out ban drones, and Washington won't think twice before doing it. It's even more amazing how many people think this incident will never happen, even when being stared in the face by a laundry list of incidents caused by drone operator stupidity and/or recklessness.

I am not disagreeing that we need regulation.

We had/have regulation. When the FAA registration was struck down 4 days ago, I was highly concerned.

It is easy to build a drone. More people that fly photo birds that are easy to set up and fly 1000 feet in the air are a minority compared to people that can just build one themselves and nothing will stop that.

I am all for regulations if the regulations are well spelled out and exact so that the abuse of power can not be had by the federal government.

I just happened to see that Steel git arrested: (go to 13:50)

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[jarred125]

I am not disagreeing that we need regulation.

We had/have regulation. When the FAA registration was struck down 4 days ago, I was highly concerned.

It is easy to build a drone. More people that fly photo birds that are easy to set up and fly 1000 feet in the air are a minority compared to people that can just build one themselves and nothing will stop that.

I am all for regulations if the regulations are well spelled out and exact so that the abuse of power can not be had by the federal government.

I just happened to see that Steel git arrested: (go to 13:50)

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These guys were arrested for trespassing, "there were no trespassing signs but we didn't think that applied because the gate was open" is a completely idiotic argument.

 

[Jussaguy]

These guys were arrested for trespassing, "there were no trespassing signs but we didn't think that applied because the gate was open" is a completely idiotic argument.

Trespassing?

Is that why they were contacted by the FAA?

 

[jarred125]

Trespassing?

Is that why they were contacted by the FAA?

The FAA didn't arrest them, the local police did.

 

[buzzy_peeper]

Sad...I think the "golden age" of drones may be coming to an end with all the new regulation.

 

[tkinva]

Good thing I already ordered my Hellfire missiles from Amazon.

They have a special mounting rail setup for the Mavic.
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- - Art from the Air - -

 

[Qoncussion]

What?

What happened to the "forgotten people will be forgotten no longer"?

Why is Trump not fighting for our drone rights?

Wait... Really? You believed that a politician would do the right thing after being elected? You must either be young or new to the US. [emoji12]

 

[buzzy_peeper]

For every new drone regulation, he needs to eliminate two drone regulations

 

[dwallersv]

To set the context, I am a libertarian conservative in my political/social views. I chafe at government appearance in my life. So that's the POV I come at this from.

That said, I strongly support these efforts. The technology to easily identify, and seize control of a nefarious drone can't come too soon. And it can't be widely deployed fast enough, all the way to local PD, IMHO.

It is my carefully considered opinion that that is the only way we are going to be able to continue to fly, and with anything resembling some semblance of "freedom".

Drone enthusiasts that don't see, and accept, that these devices are already being used for criminal and terrorist purposes haven't been paying attention to the news. We are at the very early stages of this technology -- within a few years we will have drones that can be completely controlled by voice. It's only going to get worse/better (depending on how you look at it) from there.

We, as a society need the ability to quickly and precisely counter dangerous uses of this technology, as such uses are only going to increase.

Part of the price we pay for that is being inconvenienced, hassled, and sometimes completely frustrated when trying to fly. But we're still flying.

Absent this sort of ability, it will only take one or two drone-delivered bombs in a mall or something killing a few dozen and hobby flying is DONE. Commercial licensing gets much more tight and high-scrutiny. People will not put up with being scared every time they see a drone.

For your consideration.

 

[stratos]

To set the context, I am a libertarian conservative in my political/social views. I chafe at government appearance in my life. So that's the POV I come at this from.

That said, I strongly support these efforts. The technology to easily identify, and seize control of a nefarious drone can't come too soon. And it can't be widely deployed fast enough, all the way to local PD, IMHO.

It is my carefully considered opinion that that is the only way we are going to be able to continue to fly, and with anything resembling some semblance of "freedom".

Drone enthusiasts that don't see, and accept, that these devices are already being used for criminal and terrorist purposes haven't been paying attention to the news. We are at the very early stages of this technology -- within a few years we will have drones that can be completely controlled by voice. It's only going to get worse/better (depending on how you look at it) from there.

We, as a society need the ability to quickly and precisely counter dangerous uses of this technology, as such uses are only going to increase.

Part of the price we pay for that is being inconvenienced, hassled, and sometimes completely frustrated when trying to fly. But we're still flying.

Absent this sort of ability, it will only take one or two drone-delivered bombs in a mall or something killing a few dozen and hobby flying is DONE. Commercial licensing gets much more tight and high-scrutiny. People will not put up with being scared every time they see a drone.

For your consideration.

Typical fear mongering.

 

[Jussaguy]

The FAA didn't arrest them, the local police did.

Well yeah, the FAA doesn't arrest people.

The police arrest people for federal offenses.

There will be a quiz later.