DJI Drone Ban Update - It’s NOT Good News.

[mavic3usa]

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[SkySteve83]

DJI should just setup a factory here in the states, like car companies do. Don’t know if its worth it to them, but that seems like the only solution.

 

[mavic3usa]

DJI should just setup a factory here in the states, like car companies do. Don’t know if its worth it to them, but that seems like the only solution.

Perhaps there are lessons to be learned?

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[Bad Santa]

DJI should just setup a factory here in the states, like car companies do. Don’t know if its worth it to them, but that seems like the only solution.

They don't need to set up a factory. There are already factories here. They just need to contract to an already existing factory.
The DJI drones aren't that complicated from a mechanical perspective. quality would be the real concern.

 

[ryguy80]

I really haven’t flown my DJI drones because there’s no support for them anymore. If something happens, you’re SOL unless you know someone who is good with working on drones.

I guess I’m looking at my fleet and seeing how much money I’m sitting on if I were to sell it off.

 

[MS Coast]

Because it is just another thing to study for and pay for, that we just should not need to do to fly for fun, that's why! Why not just go out and get yourself a commercial truck driving license to drive your car with? Same sort of nonsense.

Not quite the same. There's no tangible benefit to having a CDL to drive your own car. But with drones, a Part 107 license allows you to do things you can't do as a recreational pilot.

 

[Cymruflyer]

Do you live somewhere a regular driver's license is not required? Does it not require a test and a fee? Or did you not get your driver's license bc you had to 'study and pay for' it?
Do you really believe that knowing less about air traffic and the national air space somehow makes everything better and safer for everyone? The NAS is getting more crowded every day - letting people get by with the absolute bare minimum (and oftentimes less) knowledge is not the answer.

Another note: it's (almost) always recreational pilots that cause the careless/ignorant incidents on the news that give ALL drone pilots a bad name. Of these offenders, how many of them just wanted to 'fly for fun' and didnt care or see the need to 'study' before violating airspace and creating dangerous situations?
Maybe we should start letting 10yr olds drive cars because, you know, they want to have fun too!

I started flying airplanes when I was 17, I've been a pilot most of my life, I was a flight instructor for years too and I am now 75. Sold my own aircraft three years ago. Been flying drones, legally for about 8 plus years.

You took my comments out of context to suit your own slanted point of view. You stated in your post to someone that they should just go and get their part 107. That was a silly statement because all they wanted to do is fly for fun, therefore, they do not require the additional effort and expense of a Part 107. That is where your argument should have stopped.

I suggested to you that why don't you go and get your commercial truck driving license, because you suggested that a recreational pilot who I would assume has done the simple TRUST test and registered, as required by law, should go and study and pay to get a license he does not need. Obviously, I have a driving license, but I don't need a commercial truck driving license to drive my car.

You don't need a commercial license for your car either, but you are suggesting that a rec pilot go and get a Part 107, which would be as needless as my suggestion to you to get your commercial truck license. Though, since you think this rec pilot needs to do it, why don't you think that you should get your truck driving license? It is equally as pointless, and I'm surprised you even suggested such a useless thing to do.

We get the needed/legally require paperwork and pay the fees associated with such things, but we definitely do not need to go over and above, studying and paying for further exams, when it is never going to be needed.

I have nothing against people learning more than they need but having dealt with the FAA for soooo many years, I know they have a reason for requiring just the amount of knowledge/training etc. they feel is needed, to keep things in check.

Could there be more, of course there could? Are there badly trained or poor judgement drone flyers out there, of course there? Are there poorly or undertrained GA/LSA Pilots out there, of course there are, and I've seen my fair share?

However, there are also plenty of drone flyers out there, who have the min. training and knowledge to get by and for the most part, seem to respect the sport and don't go flying in silly places. The FAA seems to be satisfied with them at that current level too.

Regarding your final "Another Note" paragraph... You will never stop the idiots, regardless of the amount of training and licenses you want to put in place, that is just the nature of the beast.

Let's look at road traffic, since you like to keep comparing things to cars. Most accidents are caused by private car drivers, not commercial drivers, duhhhh, of course they are and for any number of reasons, just like the idiot uncaring drone flyers. These car drivers may have poor training or knowledge, then there are sheer numbers compared to commercial drivers or the 107 flyers. Or dare we say it, sheer disregard for other road users or in flying, other flyers and our freedom to fly and other air users be it drones or manned aircraft.

Those kinds of people just don't care and nothing other than some huge fines and or jail time, will make them care. We find these types in all walks of life and occupations, that will never change. Apologies for the long post.

 

[Cymruflyer]

Not quite the same. There's no tangible benefit to having a CDL to drive your own car. But with drones, a Part 107 license allows you to do things you can't do as a recreational pilot.

You are missing the point here. Most rec drone flyers don't want or need to do "Those things you can't do as a recreational pilot" so why even bother bringing it up? I could counter your argument with what you just stated. There is a tangible advantage to getting your commercial truck driving license, based on your rational.

It allows you to, as you stated, "Do things you can't do" as a simple car driver in the same way it allows you to do things you can't do as a rec flyer. However, you must need to do those things to get the benefit from it. If you don't need to do those things as a rec flyer or simple car driver, for example, there is NO tangible benefit to getting you Part 107 or CDL and that is the point I am making here.

You certainly don't need to go through the expense and studying of a 107, if you simply wanted to learn more about airspace or rules and reg of GA flight. Just buy a sectional and study that and look on YouTube for appropriate pilot training videos.

Work at your own pace and it won't cost you a penny extra to acquire that additional knowledge. Some want that, some don't, so it is best left to the individual to choose what they feel is best for them. As I have stated, there is nothing wrong with wanting to expand your knowledge base, but not everyone does want to or has the need to, for the type of simple flying they may wish to do.

And THAT is the reason I say, we do not need further training and expense or regs in place, to force people to learn more. Learning more does not make you a better or safer flyer, if you do not apply what you have learned, and not everyone does apply that knowledge. Trust me, even GA pilots are guilty of that.

 

[MS Coast]

You are missing the point here. Most rec drone flyers don't want or need to do "Those things you can't do as a recreational pilot" so why even bother bringing it up?

Because this is a discussion forum and some folks might be interested.

" ...it is best left to the individual to choose what they feel is best for them" and decide whether the additional privileges provided by a Part 107 ticket are valuable to them.

Sorry if not warming up to your analogy triggered something serious for you.

 

[SkyAngel1]

"Sorry if not warming up to your analogy triggered something serious for you."

Might be time to shut this one down as some seem to be getting their panties in a knot.

 

[SkyAngel1]

"Sorry if not warming up to your analogy triggered something serious for you."
Might be time to shut this one down as some seem to be gtting their panties in a knot.

 

[Cafguy]

I have a 107 by why use it for "Park" flying? The thing is, on top of all the good reasons others have posted, When you are flying part 107 its a whole different thing I.M.O. There is all the paperwork and such ...Why should I go thru all that just to take my 5" freestyle out and do some Flying or my tiny Mobius for that matter!. and as a 107 flight I am open to more scrutiny by the FAA. Recreational flying and Part 107 flying are 2 different things. at least thats the way I think of it.

 

[Cafguy]

Another note: it's (almost) always recreational pilots that cause the careless/ignorant incidents on the news that give ALL drone pilots a bad name. Of these offenders, how many of them just wanted to 'fly for fun' and didnt care or see the need to 'study' before violating airspace and creating dangerous situations?

While we hate to read the statement I would say its 100 percent accurate I think long ago was the time to stop selling DJI Drones "off the shelf" to irresponsible people in the name of extra profits. When I was growing up the local hobby shop would ask you a few basic questions before selling you a setup. Now days I can walk into a hobby store and take a jet right off the shelf,..Take it over to the park.... And severely injure myself and many others. Thats how RC airplanes became "regulated" to approved flying fields with rules and training required (and a fee) Drones have been slowly making there way to this point for some time now and while theres still time to go out and enjoy yourself...May as well order that fancy AMA hat to wear at the field while they still have plenty in stock.

 

[Cymruflyer]

"Sorry if not warming up to your analogy triggered something serious for you."

Might be time to shut this one down as some seem to be getting their panties in a knot.

Has not triggered anything serious or non-serious, for me. I'm just stating what even 107 pilots are stating here. The fact that most on here who are rec flyers do not need anything extra that a 107 certificate will give them.

Therefore, they save the effort of studying for something they don't need and the cost of it, plus the ongoing paperwork and cost required, to keep it up in the following years. It is as simple as that. But you knew that anyway.

 

[MS Coast]

Per post #9:

" ...it is best left to the individual to choose what they feel is best for them" and decide whether the additional privileges provided by a Part 107 ticket are valuable to them.

 

[anotherlab]

They don't need to set up a factory. There are already factories here. They just need to contract to an already existing factory.
The DJI drones aren't that complicated from a mechanical perspective. quality would be the real concern.

That would be true for final assembly, but not for the manufacture of the components.