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Or maybe all 1/1.3" sensors are not created equal?
Size alone says literally nothing.

The Avata 2 also only has a single axis gimbal so unless you're flying manual the image has to get cropped into significantly for horizon leveling instead of the gimbal doing the job.
 
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Or maybe all 1/1.3" sensors are not created equal?
The Avata 2 may have the same sensor as other DJI drones, but that does not equal same image quality.
For one thing, the Avata 2 has a totally different lens, an extreme wideangle with 155 degrees field of view. That makes it a totally different camera than for example the Mini 4 Pro, and a totally different image and video quality. Like comparing apples and oranges....
 
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This looks like a fantastic option, looking forward to the announcement. If it's under 250g, it will be the first entry into the Category 1 for flight over people. The mini, with prop guards, is too heavy for the class. So, this would meet the requirements for guarded props and weight restriction. With a similar camera, you would have a great option for crowded venues. The compact folding options will make it easy to carry in a backpack or sling along with standard cameras like the Pocket 3 or Action 4/5.
 
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I went from "meh" to being geeked up...I'm in. Translating the Spanish marketplace link, the Flip features 10-bit D-Log M, which is a nice bonus. Feels like a "Neo Pro". I'll probably check out launch day influencer videos to see what the prop noise is like before purchasing.
 
The compact folding options will make it easy to carry in a backpack or sling along with standard cameras like the Pocket 3 or Action 4/5.
Being the Flip has a similar sized sensor and D-Log M, it should integrate well the Action 4/5.
 

No text about lidar or obstacle avoidance. There is a section on "anti collision" (Google English translation) with a "Yes". But that's it. Also no spec listed for speed (e.g. wind resistance). Well, I guess we'll know all that Tuesday. Does look really capable for a sub 249g drone.
 
Do we really need another flippin drone? Really?
Nope, already have two and I certainly don't need another forum.
My next drone purchase, if there is one, is building my own and it would be an FPV.
 
Nope, already have two and I certainly don't need another forum.
My next drone purchase, if there is one, is building my own and it would be an FPV.
This will be drone #6 for me....haha

Yeah, I need to be admitted to Drones Annoymous. I have a problem.
 
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I've been flying drones since 2020 or so, I came quite late to the party but on this time, none of the people I know has bought a drone, nor I've seen more than a few tourists flying one; so it's still a marginal market, and it will continue like that while the oppression by overregulation worldwide continues.
Jeez, that leaves me more than fashionably late to the party having bought my first drone last October 2024. Too bad about the regulations namely the commercial side of it. More on that later. Over-Regulation is the result of Over-Ignorance and Over-Stupidity of drone pilots exacerbated by Over-Dramatizing privacy concerns by the public at large. On that note, I believe every pilot should be licensed. However, the public should be made aware of this. The licensing requirement is where the FAA has gotten it right although the TRUST Cert test is "kindergarten like" easy. What the FAA didn't get right is separating recreational from commercial operations. The distinction IMHO should be about what you fly (weight) as opposed to why you fly.
 
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Jeez, that leaves me more than fashionably late to the party having bought my first drone last October 2024. Too bad about the regulations namely the commercial side of it. More on that later. Over-Regulation is the result of Over-Ignorance and Over-Stupidity of drone pilots exacerbated by Over-Dramatizing privacy concerns by the public at large. On that note, I believe every pilot should be licensed. However, the public should be made aware of this. The licensing requirement is where the FAA has gotten it right although the TRUST Cert test is "kindergarten like" easy. What the FAA didn't get right is separating recreational from commercial operations. The distinction IMHO should be about what you fly (weight) as opposed to why you fly.
Just so you know in case you are not aware of the history, flying drones has a "hobby" component in America. Usually it involves FPV drones but it could be any of the various consumer-grade drones where the pilot is just out to have harmless fun and enjoy flying and taking pictures and video.

[personal opinion and biased commentary follows]

In America, there's a thing called freedom and in order to be a true hobby open to anyone, there is a certain amount of government regulation typically allowed before the activity is no longer a recreational "hobby." For drones, safety comes first and anything directly related to safety should be adopted and implemented. This includes rules and regulations about how and where and when to fly your drones but IMHO it doesn't include "who" should fly drones, what kinds of drones you should be able to fly and things like registration.
 
In America, there's a thing called freedom and in order to be a true hobby open to anyone, there is a certain amount of government regulation typically allowed before the activity is no longer a recreational "hobby." For drones, safety comes first and anything directly related to safety should be adopted and implemented. This includes rules and regulations about how and where and when to fly your drones but IMHO it doesn't include "who" should fly drones, what kinds of drones you should be able to fly and things like registration.
I'm not going to open a can of worms and debate your freedom although it's highly debatable, but not here. On this note, your wish for more freedom has been answered as DJI Eliminates Automatic No-Fly Zones in the US placing control back in the hands of the drone operators, in line with regulatory principles of the operator bearing final responsibility.

Back on topic: I'm not keen on registration either. However, if I'm reading your comment correctly, you don't believe drone pilots should have the competency and knowledge gained through licensing which could potentially minimize aviation hazard? Please correct me if I'm misreading.
 
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I'm not going to open a can of worms and debate your freedom although it's highly debatable, but not here. On this note, your wish for more freedom has been answered as DJI Eliminates Automatic No-Fly Zones in the US placing control back in the hands of the drone operators, in line with regulatory principles of the operator bearing final responsibility.
To be fair, I said:

For drones, safety comes first and anything directly related to safety should be adopted and implemented.
Drone pilots don't have to freedom to fly wherever they want and should expect it. Different people will be impacted by what DJI does but in the long run, not everyone will benefit since the places where you can fly and where you cannot fly officially remain the same (according to the FAA). However, for those who couldn't fly where they were allowed to but were otherwise stopped by DJI, it's a win. I didn't wish for this since I don't believe being able to fly over military bases or over the White House or across the airport runways to be "freedom." To me, unless there's a *really* good reason why not (such as NPs)....those are examples of "more freedom" to me.

.... you don't believe drone pilots should have the competency and knowledge gained through licensing which could potentially minimize aviation hazard? Please correct me if I'm misreading.

For the hobby, the TRUST is sufficient IMO. There's no proof that I am aware of that indicates part 107 = safer NAS or recreational pilots are contributing to a less safe NAS. I refused to believe *any* amount of government-type training should be required for the hobby. Good to have it, glad it's available; not mandatory. But I am against it (can't say why).

Ultimately I don't equate "licensing and registration" directly to safety for so many reasons the least of which is there's no direct proof (the hobby needs this level), diminishing returns, and the slippery slope. We all want a safe NAS but at what expense to the hobby?

I dunno, it sounds like you are implying those who are "licensed" are more competent, more knowledgeable, and safety than those who are not and we need to get everybody licensed and registered, is that right?
 
I dunno, it sounds like you are implying those who are "licensed" are more competent, more knowledgeable, and safety than those who are not and we need to get everybody licensed and registered, is that right?
That is right, with the exception of registration which I dislike. I have to believe that licensing does offer some form of competency and knowledge although it does not fix stupidity nor is it a cure for bad judgement.
I would not like a world where people can drive, fly an aircraft, sail a boat or operate open-heart surgery without a license to do so.
 
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I would not like a world where people can drive, fly an aircraft, sail a boat or operate open-heart surgery without a license to do so.
My point is we can already "fly an aircraft [drone]" without a license; hopefully, you are not suggesting taking that way (in the name of safety). Will putting every drone pilot on a license get us close to 100%, probably. But I argue we are already close enough. Actually I know a way we can achieve 99.9% guaranteed drone safety and that would be to only allow Vic to have a drone license. :) ;)

There is no drone hobby if there is 100% license and registration. Not sure why you lump flying a drone (which hasn't cause any real damage or killed anyone) in the same bucket as driving a car (on the public street), flying an aircraft, piloting a boat, or operating on a patient where we already know mistakes cause damage and deaths. Those are not "hobbies." Congress carved out a special deal for drone pilots giving us some space to "have fun". I bet if cars were only used to joy ride and nothing else and no one else could get hurt and you had "limits", bet you wouldn't need a license. Oh, it's called a bicycle.

DJI Flip is under 250g and it doesn't have RID so I see absolutely no reason why anyone can't just take the TRUST and then start flying immediately.
 
DJI Flip is under 250g and it doesn't have RID so I see absolutely no reason why anyone can't just take the TRUST and then start flying immediately.
I agree.
Not sure why you lump flying a drone (which hasn't cause any real damage or killed anyone) in the same bucket as driving a car (on the public street), flying an aircraft, piloting a boat, or operating on a patient where we already know mistakes cause damage and deaths.
As I've written, I have to believe that licensing (such as the TRUST) does offer some form of competency and knowledge although it does not fix stupidity nor is it a cure for bad judgement.
You can't fix Stupidity", There ain't no cure.
Now about real damage:
Even trained professionals commit acts of stupidity or bad judgement flying a drone causing significant damage and could have killed the occupants of a manned aircraft. Fortunately, the latter did not occur.
 
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Getting back to the thread, I think, for only C$300 more, I would choose the Mini 4 Pro Fly More Pkg at Costco Canada over the Flip. Even If I had a larger drone such as an Air 3S (which I have), I would still choose the Neo over the Flip because of the price difference.
 

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