DJI batteries with a BMS chip usually can't be charged faster than 1C ... meaning that they get full (from totally empty) in an hour, in real life when the batteries have been on storage charge level (3,7-3,8V/cell or 1 solid led + one blinking - 2 solid leds + one blinking) that means approx 45min until full.
The reason increasing the wattage by ~53% (from 65W to 100W), only decreases charge time by 25% (from 80 minutes to 60 minutes), is because ‘intelligent’ batteries such as those for the Air 3 (along with most lithium-ion batteries today) do not have a linear charge curve; they will charge slower and slower as the battery charge increases closer and closer to 100%.
All there is correct...
Yes, they all are all pretending we have dozens of the necessary chargers lying around, and they are all heroes, saving the planet, by no longer including them! However, we still need the new higher powered chargers, so not including them saves them money, and costs us more money to buy them, separately, after the sale! Ain't shrinkflation great? LOL!
As long as they clearly state what comes with the product and don't falsely say a charger is included, I'm fine with not having a charger included. In some cases, I've already had a charger and I saved money. In other cases, I preferred to buy a charger different from the one they might have included, like a 100W unit rather than 65W.
I am guessing that the Anker Charger is not fully PPS/PD compliant. Do the Anker specs state PD 3.0? Many of the Anker Chargers use their own proprietary fast charge technology called PIQ which may not support the PPS/PD protocol.
Anker's website says their proprietary Power IQ 3.0 is compatible with PD 3.0 which has PPS integrated.
That’s very interesting because I, too, remember reading that Anker’s PIQ3.0 had PD3.0. This was one reason I didn’t buy the more expensive PIQ4.0 with GaN technology as I didn’t think it was required for my application. I hope my Air 3 Charging hub isn’t somehow defective. I did get the full 65W from my 65W Apple brick so I’m hoping it’s my specific Anker that’s the issue. I’ll have to wait until Monday for the other charger to arrive so I can test it out. I realize most don’t have CT’s on all of their home’s circuit breakers but another easy way to check if they are getting the full 100W is to charge up a battery that’s at 5-10% and time the entire charge cycle. Charging the Air 3 batteries 90-95% at 100W (using the charging hub only, as Air 3’s own charging circuit maxes out at 65W) should take no more than one hour.
Next time I recharge I'll try to check using my Kill-A-Watt meter and see what it says using a few different chargers/power supplies I have laying around.
I think Anker makes very good products but when I was browsing chargers I noticed that they never stated that their chargers are fully compliant with PD 3.0 on the Amazon listings. I believe there were also a couple of reviews that described they were never able to achieve the same power output with the Anker Charger that they were able to get with their Apple Charger. It's also interesting that many of the companies use the term "compatible" instead of "compliant" which I believe gives them an out but there may be other reasons for that term.
Right but this thing is supposedly rated at 200W so I wondered about whether they were starting to put out much higher-power chargers.
