DJI remote id

[noahpk]

I’ve heard that the recent dji hardware will already be capable of remote id, anyone have any idea when that will be available ? I’ve heard it will just be a firmware update

 

[noahpk]

I’ve heard that the recent dji hardware will already be capable of remote id, anyone have any idea when that will be available ? I’ve heard it will just be a firmware update

The reason I ask is because my team and I are trying to figure out a category 1 flight over a crowd in September , and to fly over an assembly we have to be compliant with remote ID too

 

[shaneb50]

I’m pretty sure DJI will have a ID either in a update or some kind of add on perhaps soon? Hopefully we will hear about this soon

 

[Vic Moss]

No one knows for sure if the DJI "Remote ID" will be compliant enough for the actual RID rules. That's because the standards to judge that against aren't out yet. Once we have the standards, manufacturers will be able to put out any possible updates for compliance.

However, the only DJI drone that currently meets Category 1 compliance is the DJI Tello with prop guards.

For the Mini, DJI will also have to implement a motor kill system in order for the drone to satisfy the "no rotating parts that will lacerate human skin" part of 107.110.

Given that your flight will take place in September, you should know in enough time if you can fly there. Another option would be a small cinewhoops with an RID module.

 

[noahpk]

Thanks for the response Vic , we were thinking about using a mini 2 with prop guards and a Japanese battery to get to the correct weight(they are 50g less than the American battery). Do you think there would still need to be a motor kill system if we had prop guards?

 

[Vic Moss]

Thanks for the response Vic , we were thinking about using a mini 2 with prop guards and a Japanese battery to get to the correct weight(they are 50g less than the American battery). Do you think there would still need to be a motor kill system if we had prop guards?

That would work. The Japanese battery isn't approved for import into the US yet. I do know someone who had a friend in Japan buy it and send it. With the costs of shipping (it's a lipo), and the import tax, he said it was one very expensive Mini battery.

 

[lookout]

Most DJI are RID compatible?

Which drones are already Remote ID compatible?

The list of drones already compatible with Remote ID is long, and yet it won't matter in 2023 years. Most DJI drones and even some FPV drones comply

www.thedroneu.com

Looking in faa drone zone it lists my drone as not RID. But I don't remember if the RID equipped option (yes/no) was there last year. I still had to put in serial number to operate in P107.

 

[Vic Moss]

Most DJI are RID compatible?

Which drones are already Remote ID compatible?

The list of drones already compatible with Remote ID is long, and yet it won't matter in 2023 years. Most DJI drones and even some FPV drones comply

www.thedroneu.com

Looking in faa drone zone it lists my drone as not RID. But I don't remember if the RID equipped option (yes/no) was there last year. I still had to put in serial number to operate in P107.

I've been trying to get Drone U to take that article down. Paul is still pissed at me for leaving Drone U, so he won't take my advice.

There is no such thing as a RID compliant drone at the moment. The standards aren't even created yet.

 

[MAvic_South_Oz]

RID comes (at least planned to come) into ops in the US in sept 2023 doesn't it ?

 

[Vic Moss]

RID comes (at least planned to come) into ops in the US in sept 2023 doesn't it ?

Yes, the current date for RID mandate for all UAS in the NAS is 9/16/23.

 

[lookout]

Big drone companies, including DJI, weigh in on FAA Remote ID rule

The new FAA Remote ID rule was released in December 2020, and big drone industry players like DJI and the AMA seem to like it (mostly).

www.thedronegirl.com

The mini or any other drone less than 250g which also doesn't require registration, is exempt from RID?

 

[Vic Moss]

Big drone companies, including DJI, weigh in on FAA Remote ID rule

The new FAA Remote ID rule was released in December 2020, and big drone industry players like DJI and the AMA seem to like it (mostly).

www.thedronegirl.com

The mini or any other drone less than 250g which also doesn't require registration, is exempt from RID?

RID is tied to registration. So any <250g drone used exclusively for recreation does not have to comply with RID. If it's used under 107, RID will be required.

 

[lookout]

RID is tied to registration. So any <250g drone used exclusively for recreation does not have to comply with RID. If it's used under 107, RID will be required.

I've got one spotted. So the mini may come in handy. I still think the MP1 is the cat's meow, but flying around in bureaucracy air space is challenging. Bureaucracies can't make up their mind on anything.

Drone Pros Clarify New FAA Rules

Drone experts at Kansas State Polytechnic hosted a drone webinar on Feb. 25, clarifying upcoming rule changes.

www.forconstructionpros.com

But no RID required if flying within line of sight?

Schrader says the RID is like a license plate for a drone, allowing the FAA, law enforcement and other agencies to identify the drone and its owner when the aircraft is flying unsafely. Most drones will be outfitted with a standard RID, where the identification capability is built into the drone body. The standard RID will broadcast the drone identification, location and altitude, velocity and more. Older drones can be equipped with an external RID and drones operating within line of sight will be exempt from the RID requirement.

 

[Vic Moss]

Schrader says the RID is like a license plate for a drone, allowing the FAA, law enforcement and other agencies to identify the drone and its owner when the aircraft is flying unsafely. Most drones will be outfitted with a standard RID, where the identification capability is built into the drone body. The standard RID will broadcast the drone identification, location and altitude, velocity and more. Older drones can be equipped with an external RID and drones operating within line of sight will be exempt from the RID requirement.

Wow, that is 100% incorrect. I need to reach out to that author.

 

[Vic Moss]

Schrader says the RID is like a license plate for a drone, allowing the FAA, law enforcement and other agencies to identify the drone and its owner when the aircraft is flying unsafely. Most drones will be outfitted with a standard RID, where the identification capability is built into the drone body. The standard RID will broadcast the drone identification, location and altitude, velocity and more. Older drones can be equipped with an external RID and drones operating within line of sight will be exempt from the RID requirement.

I've emailed Ms. Wood and suggested she correct her article.

 

[lookout]

The other scoop.

Registering Your Drone with the FAA: Does a Mavic Mini Need to be Registered? | Drone Magazine

Part of an occasional series, “Things the FAA Wishes More Pilots Knew.” This article explains when you must register your drone – even if it’s a micro model. This fall, DRONELIFE had the privilege of speaking on a panel with representatives from the FAA. After some discussion, we decided to...

thedronemagazine.com

When Your Micro Drone Must Be Registered (Helpful Links Below)

“Most folks don’t realize that all drones, irrespective of weight, must be registered with the FAA if the flight is governed by Part 107 or Part 91,” explains John Meehan, Aviation Safety Specialist with the FAA.

Pilots also may not always realize that their flights do not fall under the Exception for Recreational Flyers. “Flying a sUAS for any purpose other than recreation, or not following an existing aeromodelling organization’s safety guidelines, makes the flight governed by Part 107,” Meehan explains. “Flights flown with a sUAS for a commercial purpose, even if flown at no charge, for example, are governed by Part 107.”

There’s the definitive answer: Any drone operated under Part 107 or Part 91 regulations does need to be registered – no matter how small it is. That includes the Mavic Mini or any other micro drone weighing under 250 grams. The good news is that registering your drones can be done online, takes less than five minutes, and only costs $5.

 

[lookout]

Even though you're good to go under uncontrolled Class G, you still have to have the part 91 or part 107 to define class G and to find out where it is, so technically you'd always be flying under part 91 or part 107 even in a recreational fliers field. But class G is an airspace less concerned with issues. But a carve out for the rec group since they typically don't get much into the airspace, which is the problem with the drones (which are the big toys), and quads (which are the little toys).

 

[Vic Moss]

Even though you're good to go under uncontrolled Class G, you still have to have the part 91 or part 107 to define class G and to find out where it is, so technically you'd always be flying under part 91 or part 107 even in a recreational fliers field. But class G is an airspace less concerned with issues. But a carve out for the rec group since they typically don't get much into the airspace, which is the problem with the drones (which are the big toys), and quads (which are the little toys).

Are you saying that as a 44809 Recreational Flyer, you can't define G Airspace? If so, that's not right. Class of airspace isn't defined by who you are, it's defined by where you are. No matter what you're flying, you need to know where you are.

You can fly just about anywhere as a hobbyist. The only place you can't currently fly that non-recreational is outside UASFM grid limits.

 

[lookout]

Are you saying that as a 44809 Recreational Flyer, you can't define G Airspace? If so, that's not right. Class of airspace isn't defined by who you are, it's defined by where you are. No matter what you're flying, you need to know where you are.

You can fly just about anywhere as a hobbyist. The only place you can't currently fly that non-recreational is outside UASFM grid limits.

Part 91 defines all the airspace. Something has to define it. So then you just have to know where the uncontrolled airspace is. But as a rec flyer you'd be part of whatever the airspace is, and typically they were smart enough to pick a place that wasn't going to cause problems. For a drone/quad the wind would most likely get you before the airspace would unless you were right under the airport.

 

[Vic Moss]

Part 91 defines all the airspace. Something has to define it. So then you just have to know where the uncontrolled airspace is. But as a rec flyer you'd be part of whatever the airspace is, and typically they were smart enough to pick a place that wasn't going to cause problems. For a drone/quad the wind would most likely get you before the airspace would unless you were right under the airport.

No, recreational or non-recreational UAS flights aren't determined by what airspace you're in, they're determined by intent of the flight. Part 91 would only define the airspace, not the intent of the flight.

I'm not following your logic. Am I missing something?