Drone Program In Highschool

[Torque]

If the students are flying they are required to have their Part 107. Flying for the purpose of taking a class would not be considered simply for fun by the FAA, I'm quite confident on that point. You can't even fly to check out your home's gutters let alone fly as part of a class without a Part 107.

How silly. They are HS students learning the basics of drone photography.
This is like saying a student must get their Driver's license before taking driver's training.
My friend has been teaching this class for several years, I can assure that both he and the District are well researched and following the FAA educational parameters.

 

[Torque]

If the students are flying they are required to have their Part 107. Flying for the purpose of taking a class would not be considered simply for fun by the FAA, I'm quite confident on that point. You can't even fly to check out your home's gutters let alone fly as part of a class without a Part 107.

I've taken a number of drone classes through The Pilot's Institute. Several required homework where I fly certain maneuvers. Alone. Unsupervised. Classes designed to improve my flight skills. No licensed part 107 RPIC ready to take over.
I was not required to have my part 107 as one of their online students.

 

[Torque]

I didn't realize how many contract services there are to help implement drone education programs in schools! Complete packages. I thought these links were interesting:

Pitsco 11-12 Programs | Comprehensive Drone Education

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[LoudThunder]

It is not illegal to fly in controlled airspace with ATC clearance under part 107. LAANC gives you this clearance.

That statement is not entirely true, if the airspace is within the controlled Class D airspace of a military installation, LAANC is not available and you (recreational and Part 107 Pilots) want to fly there, you are required to get an authorization through the FAADroneZone. And if the Airport is not LAANC Enabled (of the more than 5,000 airports in the US, only approximately 725 are LAANC Enabled…) then those same pilots must apply for an authorization and before flying that controlled airspace, they must call and coordinate their flying with the Air Traffic Control (ATC) facility…

I completed the Careers Studies Certificate in Unmanned Aerial Systems course at Virginia Peninsula Community College (VPCC) and the campus is well inside the Class D Airspace of Langley AFB and the college had to get an authorization for us to fly in their parking lot and before we flew they called Langley ATC to coordinate our flights and call when we were finished flying (as a side note, half of the parking lot was covered by a DJI Geo Fence due to its proximity to Langley).

Additionally, if a student is going to be piloting a drone, even under the direct supervision of a Part 107 Licensed Pilot who is acting as Pilot in Charge (PIC), the student would still be required to have a TRUST Certificate (A requirement for all in the program at VPCC and the college kept a copy on file…).

Case in point… the FAA Says, "Drones flown for educational purposes are regulated under the Exception for Limited Recreational Operations of Unmanned Aircraft or under the Small Unmanned Aircraft Systems Rule."

Admittedly, flying within a structure (ie: gymnasium) does mitigate some FAA Rules, however, even if one suggests flying in a FAA-Recognized Identification Areas (FRIAs), all the rules except the Remote Identification requirement apply…

For me just to fly in my own yard, I live in a Zero Altitude Quadrant, and I had to get my Part 107 to get an FAA authorization. They never granted one to me when I was a Rec Pilot… And practically everywhere I fly requires an FAA or a LAANC Authorization… See my home turf map below…

 

[rob@dronetrainingpros]

Loudthunder, I feel your pain. In AL I live in some havey military airspace.
Check out airspace. As initially commented and you eliquently confirmed. You need ATC clearance before conducting UAS operations in controlled airspace. Calling ATC, or getting LAANC approval are all forms ATC approval. I prefer in writing in case things go sideways.
PS.LAANCE does not work under Special Use Airspace either.

 

[BigAl07]

If the students are flying they are required to have their Part 107. Flying for the purpose of taking a class would not be considered simply for fun by the FAA, I'm quite confident on that point. You can't even fly to check out your home's gutters let alone fly as part of a class without a Part 107.

My friend, you are 100% WRONG here. Flying Instruction, as the student to learn to generally fly a UAS, is absolutely under ~44809 and NOT Part 107.

Now if this class were "part of a job" or something that would be totally different. For instance if you were training to fly Utility Line Inspections etc then that most likely would require Part 107 but "general flight instruction" as a student falls under the protective bubble of ~44809 (Exemption for Limited Recreational Operations of Unmanned Aircraft) for the student. The Instructor/Teacher/Mentor is a whole other story and would require Part 107 in this instance.

Learning to fly is fundamental and in many instances a great path to obtain Part 107. There is no comparison between a student learning to fly and you "Inspecting" your neighbors gutters for them.

 

[Sandy23]

As @BigAl07 has already written, the instructor, or anyone else involved in the program must be a Licensed Part 107 Pilot. That is an FAA rule/regulation and I'll let you do all the Googling on that subject or you can use our extensive web site's Search feature of our extensive database of messages…

A Part 107 Licensed Pilot will have to be present and possible classified as the Pilot In Charge (PIC) when there is any drone flying. That means the PIC must either be piloting the drone or a non-licensed pilot be directly supervised by a remote PIC and the remote PIC has the ability to immediately take direct control of the drone even if they are flying is a FAA-Recognized Identification Areas (FRIAs).

The reason for such tight control on who can fly a drone and who is in charge and ultimately responsible will be mostly directed by the insurance coverage that the school will be required to carry.

So do not just banter this around without getting the school systems insurance carrier involved. If the locality is self-insured, they will still need to be aware of the potential hazards of some student flying a drone into another person and the propellers "slapping the smile off their face…" or the potential for property damage…
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Sorry, to be a "Buzz-kill" but it may be easier to build a rifle range at the school…

Agree!