Entry fees charged by U.S. customs Korea Mavic 4 Pro?

[Dogpilot]

Just fodder for discussion. I had a DJI D-RTK-2 unit shipped from Portugal. Long story why. The point is that two months later I got a rather large bill for import duty, almost $800. This was before the lunacy. So there is some delay in getting customs bills. This was for used equipment!

 

[mavic3usa]

Just fodder for discussion. I had a DJI D-RTK-2 unit shipped from Portugal. Long story why. The point is that two months later I got a rather large bill for import duty, almost $800. This was before the lunacy. So there is some delay in getting customs bills. This was for used equipment!

Yeah that's the risk. These shipments are fully recorded and there's absolutely no reason fees and tariffs cannot be assessed in arrears. However, our friends in S. Korea has marked their items appropriately so the risks are tiny after the product is already delivered unless they really push it (i.e. the seller submits a correction). Hey, anything can happen these days.

 

[Dogpilot]

Indeed, true. However there is some liability for illegally declaring content. It can blow back on the recipient, since it is criminal to falsely declare content which can extend to receiving it. If you look closely on customs declaration forms it kind of outlines the rules. It is an offshoot of the drug policy. I have had to do those forms for years flying back and forth across many borders and am kind of aware of all the stupidity that poorly informed customs personal can exhibit. Like pulling a gun on me in Key West. Never underestimate the trouble customs can cause you, they may be in the simple category, but when they get a bone, they tend not to let go.

They have what might be considered a backlog at the moment. So there might be quite a delay in getting the bill.

 

[mavic3usa]

Indeed, true. However there is some liability for illegally declaring content. It can blow back on the recipient, since it is criminal to falsely declare content which can extend to receiving it. If you look closely on customs declaration forms it kind of outlines the rules. It is an offshoot of the drug policy. I have had to do those forms for years flying back and forth across many borders and am kind of aware of all the stupidity that poorly informed customs personal can exhibit. Like pulling a gun on me in Key West. Never underestimate the trouble customs can cause you, they may be in the simple category, but when they get a bone, they tend not to let go.

They have what might be considered a backlog at the moment. So there might be quite a delay in getting the bill.

So true but honestly, I'm ready to go to jail for just about everything going on in my life (which is basically nothing); that's just the way it is these days. We're all culpable in some way, I guess.

I've never seen any of the customs forms so I haven't personally improperly filled out anything and I don't remember the shipment contents so I'm happy to abide by whatever "corrections" or adjustments are made by CBP or the seller since he made the declarations without asking me first.

 

[Dogpilot]

So, hypothetically. If you received and accepted a shipment of 500 grams of Cocaine, you would be able to blame the shipper with no liability on your part in accepting it? Again, all these rules stem, in their implementation, around anti-drug rules. They bust both sides. Notice the big warnings on eBay now?

Should the great accounting ever occur, I too must atone for myriad of felonies I have probably committed.

 

[mavic3usa]

So, hypothetically. If you received and accepted a shipment of 500 grams of Cocaine, you would be able to blame the shipper with no liability on your part in accepting it? Again, all these rules stem, in their implementation, around anti-drug rules. They bust both sides. Notice the big warnings on eBay now?

Should the great accounting ever occur, I too must atone for myriad of felonies I have probably committed.

I guess the c*****e is illegal (illegal to possess, illegal to "order", etc.) but the dji drone is not yet illegal. Would be no different than these hi-power lasers that keep coming into the country that aren't supposed to but are listed as pointers or flashlights. I had one confiscated over a decade ago and the company was nice enough to dispatch another without the batteries.

However, once the DJI drone is officially banned, I think we are all toast and will get cut off. Probably why the Asian sellers are flooding the US market with goods more valuable than fent***l....drones! BTW, I heard about another person getting their DJI drone seized at the Canada port of entry, citing UFLPA enforcement action. Big thread about it.

 

[Dogpilot]

Really, it has nothing to do with the commodity being legal or illegal. The point with them is that you committed a fraud or at least participated in one. It is much like receiving stolen goods.

 

[YorksPhotos]

I am retired, free room and board, but will the warden let me fly my illegally smuggled drone during yard time.

 

[Dogpilot]

They just want to be paid, the hammer is the legal repercussions. If they send you a bill, which they may, since there is no longer any exemption for goods under $800. The tariff on batteries, which is part of the shipment is 135% at the moment, plus a 50% and a 15%, so it comes nearly 200% of actual value on a drone from China. If you look at the commodity and tariff page with customs, there are what are called stacked and stand alone tariffs. Super confusing.

BTW, my half brother, from the side of the family I had superficial relations with, a lot older. Went to prison in Chino for receipt of stolen goods. Items he had no real idea were stolen. Not like he was a blue chip citizen, it is just what they eventually nailed him on, right up there with illegally copied DVD's. Gosh wouldn't that be embarrassing; "What are you in for?" "Copying DVD's." They all moved away from you in the mess hall.

Japan and Korea are both at 15% with extra stacked tariffs on things like batteries. Others are exempt, like auto parts. Kind of why I let others do the importing and I pay a tad more. Though on the Mavic 4 Pro Creator edition, I got from a US based supplier, turned out to be cheaper than an import. Like I mentioned, I have been nicked by customs before, months later.

 

[mavic3usa]

^I guess I'll meet with you over at FCI Safford, we can talk about how we ended up in this mess. /s /s /s

 

[Dogpilot]

Funny, I go to Safford all the time. Have my aircraft painted there at Jetcrafters. I have in the past also consulted at the Morenci Mine. Amazingly, the hotels there, while not so great are stupidly expensive (because of the mine). So I suppose a cell might be less so. They did this one last year, after I took it off the floats:

Before that they did my Caravan on floats, which is now in Alaska with Alaska Seaplanes:

Before that the 185:

 

[YorksPhotos]

Most of this seems like unnecessary paranoia. Getting a bill after delivery is very rare and under specific circumstances. This wouldn't be one of them. If my package arrives unopened, not inspected by customs the only information thay have is what's on the declaration form that they already cleared. What would I get a bill for? Only thing they know on at least 2 of mine is that it is a cheap dash cam.

 

[Landshark99]

I would agree with that. The only way I see one would getting a bill is if the vendor says that the buyer is responsible for all fees and tariffs and those fees would depend on the shippers description of the contents. Even then the only bill I see one getting would be a request to pay before delivery, not a bill a month later. I have yet to have any kind of duty bill from anything I have bought.

 

[mavic3usa]

Most of this seems like unnecessary paranoia. Getting a bill after delivery is very rare and under specific circumstances. This wouldn't be one of them. If my package arrives unopened, not inspected by customs the only information thay have is what's on the declaration form that they already cleared. What would I get a bill for? Only thing they know on at least 2 of mine is that it is a cheap dash cam.

I would agree with that. The only way I see one would getting a bill is if the vendor says that the buyer is responsible for all fees and tariffs and those fees would depend on the shippers description of the contents. Even then the only bill I see one getting would be a request to pay before delivery, not a bill a month later. I have yet to have any kind of duty bill from anything I have bought.

Very unlikely but there have been instances where the tariff was not paid by the shipper and the carrier (mostly DHL, sometimes UPS) paid the government and it took them awhile to process and pass the bill (along with administrative fees) to the recipient. Much proof of it happening from time to time but not likely especially for FedEx which doesn't seem to do business that way.

Also very very unlikely if the US finds out certain sellers have abused the system. The US puts pressure on those sellers who finally come clean and are allowed to make "corrections" to their records to avoid bad things from happening to them (sounds familiar?) Ordinarily you would think such sellers would have to reimburse the government for the error of their ways but it wouldn't be out of the question for CBP to come after American citizens with an amended record in hand; they are petty that way. Just saying.

 

[YorksPhotos]

My M5P Plus just arrived, no paper work or tampering with package, same as my other deliveries. My M4P Creator is still in Memphis. Both had identical tracking, Incheon-Anchorage-Memphis but the M4P was in customs 10 hrs longer and missed flight to LA. It just passed customs with eta tomorrow. Maybe they inspected it. Will know tomorrow.

 

[mavic3usa]

My Plus Combo arrived today from FedEx, ordered it Monday, shipped on Tuesday, arrived on Thursday from South Korea (102 Store on eBay) thru the usual route, Anchorage to Memphis for the "International release" no mention of customs. Paid no tariffs, adult signature required. Box is simple and non-descriptive. See here or post #118 for details on pricing and declarations.

 

[YorksPhotos]

After my M4P and the second M5P, that hasn't shipped yet shows up, I am retiring from international smuggling. It's been a good run. If only Pablo would have done the same.

 

[mavic3usa]

After my M4P and the second M5P, that hasn't shipped yet shows up, I am retiring from international smuggling. It's been a good run. If only Pablo would have done the same.

I think I'm done, too. One M4P and one M5P is good enough for me, especially since I won't use them until next year.

/sarcasm follow

I got the "overweight" M5P Plus batteries so I can easily comply with RID (I intend to register) and it looks like I got mine just in time; I asked Gemini AI to show me what's going on at ANC with drones from Korea and you can see the FAA is present on site and interested in weighing our drones *before* they officially come into the country. Apparently they aren't finding any problems. Gemini AI provided me with these pics but you never know what to believe these days.

Hard to believe 102_store is shipping in drones using their own planes; they even chartered out a FedEx plane with their name on it to handle the excessive shipments to Memphis. At least it's all "Tariff Free."

Just in case again, these are AI-generated images.

 

[Landshark99]

Funny images, I am pretty sure I am done as well with one Mavic 4 and two Mini 5s, all of mine will be registered this year and then we will see what next year brings

 

[mavic3usa]

Funny images, I am pretty sure I am done as well with one Mavic 4 and two Mini 5s, all of mine will be registered this year and then we will see what next year brings

I have probably one more round left this year; we'll see what the NEO 2 brings to the table over my NEO 1.

These days it's all about having "backup" drones.