greetings from northern Italy

[muddyblues]

Thank you !
I found the D-Flight and I loaded the maps but I can't see any no fly zones. Also, I need to take that registration course and I can't find any place to go to take the course online. Also, it has to be an NAA approved course. I spent two hours looking at websites and everybody says "you have to take the registration course" but nobody tells you where to take it?

1) open D-FLIGHT.IT
2) register and create a user profile
3)...then ...access and you'll see all no-flight-zones in Italy (blue,yellow,orange,red...)
4) see my pdf below ))

 

[BobN2Tech]

I will be traveling to Italy in May 2024 from US. I am taking a DJI mini 2 Pro and I am trying to create an account with d-flight, but getting error message (See below). I am a bit concerned about providing both my date of birth and Tax payer ID (SSN). I think insurance is only optional. I am trying to understand the guide, but it's all in italian. How did you get through this?

 

[LoudThunder]

see it this helps...

Ente Nazionale per l'Aviazione Civile - Italian Civil Aviation Authority

When it comes up, Google will send you a Pop Up Window and ask if you want to continue in Italian or switch to English...

That is all I've got.

Call the Italian Embasy... Los Angelos at 12424 Wilshire Blvd #1400, Los Angeles, CA 90025
Phone: (310) 820-0622

 

[BobN2Tech]

Although, that is a useful link and wish I had that when I started, it still leads me back to d-flight to register as a pilot. But I can't get past the d-flight account creation. From what I gather is that drones under 250g (such as mini 2) do not require certification, and fall under A1 of the Open Category. What is not clear is if insurance is mandatory for A1.

 

[sarahb]

Welcome!

 

[LoudThunder]

What is not clear is if insurance is mandatory for A1.

Call the Italian Embasy, they are in Los Angelos at 12424 Wilshire Blvd #1400, Los Angeles, CA 90025 Their phone number is (310) 820-0622

 

[Luckyguy9]

I'm taking my mini 4 pro to Italy in July.

It doesn't matter if it's under 250 grams because it has a camera on it. You must take a course, get a license and get insurance.
I took the course through the Netherlands web site. which is in English and because the Netherlands is part of the EU, the license is good in all EU countries. You should take 2 courses. the A1/A3 course and the secondary smaller A2 course. Testing is online. The A2 course is supplemental but necessary. Strangely, the A2 course is proctored so you have to take the test with a computer that has a camera so they can watch you actually take the test. It's not hard. I got 97.5% and you only need 75% to pass.

When you take the course and get your certificate, its from EASA and has your training number. Then I registered through D-flight for my Italian UAS Operator number and it gave me another EASA ID#.

On D-Flight there is a separate tab to enter your pilot certification which I entered my ID # from my A-1/A-3 training certification in the Netherlands. My numbers are different. Training in Netherlands but I'll be flying in Italy, so 2 different numbers.

Freddygang in another thread said, "registered in Italy as a non-EU citizen. I found the D-flight website confusing at best. I ended up contacting their online support (again, through quite a byzantine process), but to their credit they answered very swiftly and helped me through the registration. Worth dropping them a line to check anything that may not be clear".

I read somewhere that when you arrive in Italy with your drone in it's case at customs, they want to see your EASA certificate and insurance policy.

Below are important links. I spent 2 months trying to find all this info!!

Flying in your country - National Aviation Authorities | EASA

This list below states drone website references by country, as supplied by the respective National Aviation Authority (NAA). The overview ensures a quick access to information on drones and details for the registration process. For countries where the registration process is yet to be set up or...

www.easa.europa.eu

Drone Laws in Italy | UAV Coach (2023)

Want to learn more about drone laws in Italy? Check out our list of links and regulations for people flying drones in Italy.

uavcoach.com

Open Category - Low Risk - Civil Drones | EASA

The ‘open’ category is the main reference for the majority of leisure drone activities and low-risk commercial activities.

www.easa.europa.eu

Drone laws in Italy | Drone license

Flying a drone in Italy? Read here which drone laws apply in Italy ✓ Avoid fines ✓ Fly safe with your drone ✓ Drone laws in Italy

www.dronelicense.eu

Here is the link to the drone course you need in English. Take the A1-A3 + A2 course.
Training in English

EUROPEAN DRONE MAPS AND DRONE REGULATIONS

All the European drone maps, European drone authorities, National contact information and drone no-fly zone maps.

europeandronecompany.com

I hope this makes the whole process easy for you. Please let me know if you have any problems. Best, Wayne

 

[BobN2Tech]

For reference, this EASA site has many questions and answers, sometimes conflicting.
Drones (UAS) | EASA

 

[Markptate1962]

hi everybody!
I'm an "old man" living next to Garda Lake, northern Italy.
I like riding my motorcycles (Harley and BMW) and my german shepard called Lupa
I bought a Mini 4 Pro few days ago and hope to go flying as soon as possible because since today we have a very bad weather, with snow and chilly temperatures
Very very glad to join this forum.
a great hug everybody

Welcome from San Antonio, Texas USA

 

[BobN2Tech]

I just went through the horrendous process of registering my mini 2 drone and as an operator on d-flight.it. There are about 25+ steps you have to go through, and taken me nearly 2 hrs. I orginally had difficulty just creating an account with d-flight. I tried for 2 weeks getting same error. I tried today and was successful. It's a long process and lot's of stumbling blocks, and I am now awaiting d-flight to confirm my operator registration.

 

[Murph66]

Hi and welcome from Ireland

 

[muddyblues]

Although, that is a useful link and wish I had that when I started, it still leads me back to d-flight to register as a pilot. But I can't get past the d-flight account creation. From what I gather is that drones under 250g (such as mini 2) do not require certification, and fall under A1 of the Open Category. What is not clear is if insurance is mandatory for A1.

insurance is absolutely mandatory. Flying with M4P you can fly without any certification everywhere except, of course, NFZ but you MUST have an insurance

 

[Luckyguy9]

insurance is absolutely mandatory. Flying with M4P you can fly without any certification everywhere except, of course, NFZ but you MUST have an insurance

sub 250 g or a Toy, it's a C0 and doesn't need to be registered, BUT... if it has a camera/sensor attached, it falls into the C1 category which requires registration.

You need a pilot license to register at D-Flight. Look at the table that's listed on all of the websites for Europe.

I have an M4P and I'll be flying in Italy this summer but because it has a camera it's considered C1. I had to take a course, get my pilots license, then register at D-Flight.
And then, of course there's Insurance

 

[BobN2Tech]

I have attached the table, and up through the MiniPro 4, it still is classified as CO. I have the Mini2. The fact that it has a camera means it has to be registered. There is no training requrement other than to read the users manual I had registed the drone at d-flight.it and (received a QRCode) and had also register as a UAS pilot (which I also received an ID). My only problem is "drone" insurance, which I've checked with every drone insurance company I've seen included Coverdrone who now require you have a 107 license. So I am taking my home insurance policy which has 100K property liability coverage.

 

[Luckyguy9]

I have attached the table, and up through the MiniPro 4, it still is classified as CO. I have the Mini2. The fact that it has a camera means it has to be registered. There is no training requrement other than to read the users manual I had registed the drone at d-flight.it and (received a QRCode) and had also register as a UAS pilot (which I also received an ID). My only problem is "drone" insurance, which I've checked with every drone insurance company I've seen included Coverdrone who now require you have a 107 license. So I am taking my home insurance policy which has 100K property liability coverage.View attachment 174665

I have attached the table, and up through the MiniPro 4, it still is classified as CO. I have the Mini2. The fact that it has a camera means it has to be registered. There is no training requrement other than to read the users manual I had registed the drone at d-flight.it and (received a QRCode) and had also register as a UAS pilot (which I also received an ID). My only problem is "drone" insurance, which I've checked with every drone insurance company I've seen included Coverdrone who now require you have a 107 license. So I am taking my home insurance policy which has 100K property liability coverage.View attachment 174665

You should be ok with the mini 2. As long as you have the two codes and the QR code from the flight, you're good.
Drone cover wrote to me and said they don't insure anybody from the United States

 

[BobN2Tech]

After going to and returning from Italy and Portugal this May, I had no issues entering or exiting these countries through the FCO or LIS airports with my Mini2 in my backpack. Entering security for departure, I removed the drone and RC, and batteries before going through the scanners. Seems like it's not unusual. Upon entering each country's customs, I left the equipment in my backpack. I went through the Nothing to Declare exit. I flew in Tuscany (near Chianti) and no one was around. I unfortunately, did not fly in Portugal as I was in the cities Lisbon and Porto and there was a NFZ class C airspace, so I did not even try. I was prepared with EU operator and drone registration prior to my trip, and nothing needed to show anyone. Perhaps, I was lucky.

 

[BobN2Tech]

Here is a video of the area in Tuscany, Chianti that I flew the drone. Watch it here.