Point Zero
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What is going on in the second video, looks like a small piece of metal is hitting the crash dummy's head? Why is this relevant and what am I missing lol?
Impact vs no noticeable impact the way I see itWhat is going on in the second video, looks like a small piece of metal is hitting the crash dummy's head?
Good questionWhy is this relevant and what am I missing lol?
Maybe DJI could donate a unit in the name of science.
So I just saw a post that really got a good bit of smoke coming out of my ears,
It was along the lines of how could a little 1.5/ 2 pound drone be dangerous
Here is a great little calculater that can help you find out just how hard your drone can impact an object
ENERGY CALCULATOR
Select the energy button then on the right side of the entry fields you can select the unit type.
To give you a reference point a baseball traveling at 95 MPH will impact an object at about 80 foot pounds of energy,
A 2 pound drone traveling at 30mph will impact an object with 60 foot pounds of energy keep in mind a baseball doesn't have sharp edges, extended legs, whirling props and so on. And that is controlled flight.
What about free fall terminal velocity is 122 MPH now I'm not saying the drone will reach those speeds at a free fall (dead stick) but let's say it can reach 75 mph on a dead stick free fall that means it will impact with over 350 foot pounds of energy (378 fpe)
A 357 caliber pistol shooting a 200 grain slug at 900fps produces 350 foot pounds of energy
Please I beg you NEVER underestimate the power and danger of these devices
Great post and great addition to the discussion and reality in general lol. Hopefully this information will help relax the fear crazed drone death and destruction squad! Lets face it they haven't really had much to shout about. Drones are very safe people. Trust your common sense and not the media and certainly not those that live and die by what the media print.A study was made of the dangers of a falling drone by the Uni of Alabama. See Head injury from a falling drone? Crash test study suggests chances are slim. It found the the chances of head injury if struck were very low. From the website ... "The research found that drones fall more slowly than wood or metal of the same mass due to the aerodynamic drag, and therefore cause less damage. What's more, a drone is more forgiving and will flex more on impact, therefore transferring less energy in the process."
Yeah you're dead right, its to show a positive next to a negative kind of thing. Its crazy how much the neck is compressed by the piece of metal and how little compression and movement from the drone impact. You can see by how the drone bounces back up that it has somehow kept a lot of its energy by bending on impact which ties in very well with what the University of Alabama study found.Impact vs no noticeable impact the way I see it
You are forgetting a major point in your comparison of a drone to a .357 bullet.... and that is the amount of surface area that the force will be spread upon. I'm not arguing that a free falling drone wouldn't cause energy, but your comparison is misleading.
Everything that goes up in the air has the potential to fall back to the ground if something goes wrong, drones included. Yes, if a drone dropped from 400ft straight onto my melon, I wouldn't be too happy about that!Please I beg you NEVER underestimate the power and danger of these devices
So I just saw a post that really got a good bit of smoke coming out of my ears,
It was along the lines of how could a little 1.5/ 2 pound drone be dangerous
Here is a great little calculater that can help you find out just how hard your drone can impact an object
ENERGY CALCULATOR
Select the energy button then on the right side of the entry fields you can select the unit type.
To give you a reference point a baseball traveling at 95 MPH will impact an object at about 80 foot pounds of energy,
A 2 pound drone traveling at 30mph will impact an object with 60 foot pounds of energy keep in mind a baseball doesn't have sharp edges, extended legs, whirling props and so on. And that is controlled flight.
What about free fall terminal velocity is 122 MPH now I'm not saying the drone will reach those speeds at a free fall (dead stick) but let's say it can reach 75 mph on a dead stick free fall that means it will impact with over 350 foot pounds of energy (378 fpe)
A 357 caliber pistol shooting a 200 grain slug at 900fps produces 350 foot pounds of energy
Please I beg you NEVER underestimate the power and danger of these devices
I have seen on numerous occasion's as a bystander, pilots aiming directly at themselves when returning the drone to home. I think the odds of a drone strike hitting the PIC are higher than it hitting anyone else.Since it was reported early on that M2P batteries were falling out of the sky like rain a study needs to be done on them. At 10.4 ounces and more aerodynamic I am sure the results would be different. And then of course I would like to know the odds of someone ever being hit in the head with one...
True it's also true in the case of flying on a commercial airlines but car wrecks don't make national news! Plane crashes does even small private planes. It is a headline grabberYou are a lot more likely to get killed by a car or another large land vehicle than by a falling drone.
This what we need to see true data and not just theory.
When properly used with the correct level of caution I am 100% secure of the safety of these platforms.
A reply was made about DJI commitment to safe machines and I will be the first on the line to agree that they have made huge strides in making these drones safe and easy to fly just about anywhere.
It's that ease to fly that can be a double edged sword simply due to the fact that with little to no coaching they can be purchased and flown by anyone.
R/C planes are different it takes a lot of practice and coaching from others not to mention you need some space which usually pushes the new flyer to a RC field as a result the safe operation gets pushed. I am eager to see what kind of new tech will be coming as to emergency flight and dead stick recovery systems will be made available.
Already parachute systems are being tested and I actually think a helium pack would be a great system. A simple square pack that attaches to the drone I think it is a better option than parachute because orientation on deployment isn't as crucial isn't as a chute
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