Neo Confiscated

[Marty Markoe]

Ordered on Amazon November 30th. Today get the attached message. Big DUH!!!!
Anyone else seen this?r

 

[DoomMeister]

It means your drone is sitting in US Customs. You can thank your representative in Congress and their unfounded paranoia of DJI and other CCP drone manufacturers.

 

[mavic3usa]

That's probably the generic message which means either one of those has occurred and it's likely the latter. It appears customs is seizing some of the drones and you have to do a lot of work to get them released or else they get shipped back to China. I doubt they have confiscated the drone which would mean it is contraband and would get destroyed or disposed of; but it's possible.

As you know, Amazon does not have warehouses in China to ship from so if you expect to buy from Amazon directly, please make sure the item is "Shipped and Sold by Amazon." Currently when I scan on amazon.com, I don't see any.

Based on testimony I saw from CBP before Congress earlier this week, the border patrol really really really does not like dji Chinese drones.

 

[snapdog]

Sorry for your trouble. I usually buy from Amazon, but I kept seeing odd messages, so I bought direct from DJI same price and free shipping. I bought in on 12/4 and it did come from China and was delivered on 12/9. I also checked a couple of other places and including B&H in NYC and I felt DJI seemed like the best way to go. I've started building drones in 2013 with DJI parts and then their fully assembled ones. I hope you eventually get yours.

 

[Droning on and on...]

The Neo... now there's a National Security threat. Can't have Cristil and Kaden's dronie shots getting back to the Red Army.

 

[Into the Mystic]

The Neo... now there's a National Security threat. Can't have Cristil and Kaden's dronie shots getting back to the Red Army.

That whole 18 min flight time on the battery - could be flying all the way to Syria and back

 

[Droning on and on...]

New reports the New Jersey drone sitings have been solved.

400 Neos heading for their customer deliveries. DJI is trying everything they can.

 

[DARKSeifer]

Incredible and sad, the latter 30 years society went downhill to the total control and paranoia we live in today, not even a toy you can buy, because potatoes.

 

[Brojon]

It means your drone is sitting in US Customs. You can thank your representative in Congress and their unfounded paranoia of DJI and other CCP drone manufacturers.

I was in the military with a pretty high clearance.
Trust me when I say that the government officials have access to intelligence that you will never know about.
With all the news telling you about Chinese hackers (government sponsored no less) infiltrating our telecommunications networks and such you really think that the CCP isn't leveraging drones? You can look no further than the fact your DJI drone automatically sends info to their servers to see how that info is available to the Chinese government.
How they use it we - the public - have no idea. Knowledge is power.
Just like how a lot of European countries and now the US are banning Tik Tok - they HAVE information that says the CCP has access to millions of people's data.
Just because YOU don't see it doesn't mean decisions are made whimsically or frivolously.

 

[Droning on and on...]

Just because YOU don't see it doesn't mean decisions are made whimsically or frivolously.

Or moronically.

Too many people just don't understand the biggest value first and foremost is having the data. It doesn't necessarily have to have any identifiable intel value at the time it is collected.

The future can change that, enormously.

 

[DoomMeister]

@Brojon

Granted that we don’t ever get to see all the intell that goes to appropriate subcommittees in Congress. That said, with all the BS claims made about DJI drones (and now Autel as well), we as a drone community need to be shown the “glaring facts”. This ‘trust us we are looking out for you’ is so reminiscent of McCarthyism that it isn’t even funny.

If these drones are truly capable of transmitting all their data back to China like we are lead to believe, then why is Congress not putting an immediate halt to their use by anyone in the US?

This is nothing short of geopolitical shenanigans, and if not for the opening of trade with China back in the early 1970’s we would not be dealing with this now.

BTW I’m former military myself, but it doesn’t mean I blindly trust politicians (I’m not saying you do). As my grandfather used to say, “Once you elect an honest person into office, they won’t be after three months on the job”. PAC’s and lobbyists take care of that for us.

The only thing to stop most of the problem would be to only have bills cover one topic. No clumping tons of pork and graft into bills.

 

[Marty Markoe]

I started this message meant as a warning as to purchasing DJI products from Amazon and not meant to politicize drones. I simply assumed purchasing from Amazon would be as fast as direct from DJI and that should have returned be necessary would be easier. Haydon Photographic claims to be customer Centric but in fact did not return my messages about the delay or requesting a refund. Fortunately Amazon customer service representative by phone has in the past and this time been very customer oriented. Although the person helping me was long-winded the refund was applied. I've now ordered directly from DJI that promises receipt of the order before Christmas and have already received a tracking number.

 

[Brojon]

@Brojon

Granted that we don’t ever get to see all the intell that goes to appropriate subcommittees in Congress. That said, with all the BS claims made about DJI drones (and now Autel as well), we as a drone community need to be shown the “glaring facts”. This ‘trust us we are looking out for you’ is so reminiscent of McCarthyism that it isn’t even funny.

If these drones are truly capable of transmitting all their data back to China like we are lead to believe, then why is Congress not putting an immediate halt to their use by anyone in the US?

This is nothing short of geopolitical shenanigans, and if not for the opening of trade with China back in the early 1970’s we would not be dealing with this now.

BTW I’m former military myself, but it doesn’t mean I blindly trust politicians (I’m not saying you do). As my grandfather used to say, “Once you elect an honest person into office, they won’t be after three months on the job”. PAC’s and lobbyists take care of that for us.

The only thing to stop most of the problem would be to only have bills cover one topic. No clumping tons of pork and graft into bills.

I hate it when people use McCarthy as a negative connotation because history has shown us that in fact Communists WERE active and doing their part to subvert society. We now have Communist Party and "Socialist Democrats" groups at universities, city and county governments. We now have two AOC and Greg Casar as members of Congress.
In many ways I think McCarthy was on the right track - but enough politics.
Heck no I don't believe or government nor give them large amounts of trust.
But I can absolutely unequivocally say I give absolute zero trust or faith in the Chinese or Russian governments.
Witness the fact that TP-Link is now being considered for a ban because they have reason to believe that the massive attack and surveillance on our telecommunications system was facilitated by back door in their routers mandated by the CCP. We have lost untold billions in industrial sabotage by the Chinese and a large part is by state sponsored hackers utilizing weak security in Chinese equipment. You think of drones as toys or utilitarian - banal.
I assure you the CCP consider them as potential tools.

 

[Brojon]

I started this message meant as a warning as to purchasing DJI products from Amazon and not meant to politicize drones. I simply assumed purchasing from Amazon would be as fast as direct from DJI and that should have returned be necessary would be easier. Haydon Photographic claims to be customer Centric but in fact did not return my messages about the delay or requesting a refund. Fortunately Amazon customer service representative by phone has in the past and this time been very customer oriented. Although the person helping me was long-winded the refund was applied. I've now ordered directly from DJI that promises receipt of the order before Christmas and have already received a tracking number.

My preferred buying source are companies like Drone Nerds.

 

[Droning on and on...]

I hate it when people use McCarthy as a negative connotation because history has shown us that in fact Communists WERE active and doing their part to subvert society.

And that's a big So What.

The very thing we should be advocating and defending, freedom, applies to communists in the US too. Including movie stars.

I hate when people rightly alarmed about covert infiltration of our government by communists go way overboard and support harassing and opressing private Americans because of their beliefs.

When our government is being compromised, I expect the government to fix it. Not violate the rights and peaceful pursuit of private citizen's lives simply because they believe something a person in power doesn't like that they have every right to believe.

 

[Brojon]

And that's a big So What.

The very thing we should be advocating and defending, freedom, applies to communists in the US too. Including movie stars.

I hate when people rightly alarmed about covert infiltration of our government by communists go way overboard and support harassing and opressing private Americans because of their beliefs.

When our government is being compromised, I expect the government to fix it. Not violate the rights and peaceful pursuit of private citizen's lives simply because they believe something a person in power doesn't like that they have every right to believe

Here's a thought - the very concept of communism is diametrically opposed to our Republic.
So if a person is a pederast, a cannibal or believes in slavery you're ok with those?
Let's just drop it as it appears you're on a soapbox.

 

[Marty Markoe]

but enough politics.

You left out Radical Right Wing MAGA's who claim they are for law and order but viciously attacked Capitol Police Officers and illegally entered the US Capitol on 1/6/2021.

Now you guys got Musk and Ramaswamy as pseudo VPs. They are so anti-immigration except for bringing in H-1B immigrants to populate their companies at 1/2 the salary of REAL AMERICANS. These H-1Bs will never complain about lower salary because the employers threaten to fire them and have them deported. Ain't it all simple?

 

[Brojon]

You left out Radical Right Wing MAGA's who claim they are for law and order but viciously attacked Capitol Police Officers and illegally entered the US Capitol on 1/6/2021.

Hoo boy - you have guzzled at a giant can of Kool-Aid.
Get your facts right before displaying your ignorance.

 

[Marty Markoe]

I started this message meant as a warning as to purchasing DJI products from Amazon and not meant to politicize drones. I simply assumed purchasing from Amazon would be as fast as direct from DJI and that should have returned be necessary would be easier. Haydon Photographic claims to be customer Centric but in fact did not return my messages about the delay or requesting a refund. Fortunately Amazon customer service representative by phone has in the past and this time been very customer oriented. Although the person helping me was long-winded the refund was applied. I've now ordered directly from DJI that promises receipt of the order before Christmas and have already received a tracking number.

As a follow up, did order from DJI. Guess what? They got held up at customs in Hong Kong. What's worse, could not get ahold of customer service via phone and no response from them via Chat. Had to cancel through AMEX. Me Thinks there may be this problem ahead for all DJI drones starting Jan. 20th.

 

[Marty Markoe]

Hoo boy - you have guzzled at a giant can of Kool-Aid.
Get your facts right before displaying your ignorance.

Oh yeah, all those videos of peaceful rioters were deleted and Hollywood Commie/Marxists created fake videos showing the violence. We need to watch more 2000 mules videos to see the truth. DJH!!!