No shortage of US-based "authorized DJI partners"

[mavic3usa]

Here's another one. DJI leaves America, a vacuum is formed, and there's no shortage of California-based "authorized DJI partners" to take their place. I hope the drone manufacturers pop up as quickly as the sellers.

It's America and you're free to sell and profit all you want, I'm just not a fan of the methods such as using the DJI name in the URL, claiming to be "authorized", so many 500% and 1000% guarantees. The gratuitous use of the DJI images, drone scenario likenesses....even the website looks very similar to DJI.com; but it's not. There are too many customers who are not aware of the situation and will gladly buy from these guys not knowing what they will get into. In this environment where DJI has left everything unprotected and in disarray, you'll have victims who will either believe DJI hasn't left the market or that they've returned to the US and is eager to sell drones again.

How can a US-based website (with a Chinese WhatsApp) not charge sales tax, free shipping in 3-4 days, no sign or mention of customs fees or tariffs, appears to be selling at MSRP (so likely no additional charges built-in), everything marked as In Stock? They even have 1- and 2-year service plans with a provider and a "membership club." They take credit cards and Paypal which means you can't be completely scammed and they also have a regular refund policy.

Too many red flags for me but I'm sure there are folks who are willing to give it a try. Just thought I would point it before it eventually comes up. Maybe they'll have the NEO 2 one day.

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[Felix le Chat]

'...DJI has left everything unprotected and in disarray, you'll have victims who will either believe DJI hasn't left the market or that they've returned to the US and is eager to sell drones again...'

To be honest with you. What you say is unfair. It isn't DJI that's left you with your arse hanging out... they still do honest business in the countries where they're not pariahs. It's the deliberate constraints and blockages engineered by your own 'representatives' that have led to this situation in the US.

Attribute blame where blame is due.

Make the most of it... I'll give this comment all of 10 minutes before it's complained about and deleted because of "political" reasons

 

[qadsan]

I wonder if this is the same company in your link above selling under a different name?

I also don’t like how everything looks like it’s an official DJI web site to fool customers.

DJI Mini 5 Pro

1-Inch Large CMOS Camera Nightscape Omnidirectional Obstacle Sensing True Vertical Shooting and 225° Flexible Gimbal Rotation Upgraded ActiveTrack 360° Lightweight and Portable Extended Battery Life

www.us-dji.com

 

[Dave Pitman]

In this environment where DJI has left everything unprotected and in disarray,

This statement is nonsense. What do you even mean by "DJI has left everything unprotected and in disarray?"

 

[mavic3usa]

I wonder if this is the same company in your link above selling under a different name?

I also don’t like how everything looks like it’s an official DJI web site to fool customers.

DJI Mini 5 Pro

1-Inch Large CMOS Camera Nightscape Omnidirectional Obstacle Sensing True Vertical Shooting and 225° Flexible Gimbal Rotation Upgraded ActiveTrack 360° Lightweight and Portable Extended Battery Life

www.us-dji.com

Yeah I think they might be the same; I had forgotten about that site.

 

[mavic3usa]

'...DJI has left everything unprotected and in disarray, you'll have victims who will either believe DJI hasn't left the market or that they've returned to the US and is eager to sell drones again...'

To be honest with you. What you say is unfair. It isn't DJI that's left you with your arse hanging out... they still do honest business in the countries where they're not pariahs. It's the deliberate constraints and blockages engineered by your own 'representatives' that have led to this situation in the US.

Attribute blame where blame is due.

Make the most of it... I'll give this comment all of 10 minutes before it's complained about and deleted because of "political" reasons

This statement is nonsense. What do you even mean by "DJI has left everything unprotected and in disarray?"

I think I've made it clear in the past about how I feel DJI reacting to the problem created by the US government. This is directed toward the US only; not the rest of the world which appears to be in good shape. You can't use that as an excuse to fail to communicate properly with the customers. DJI should work to have inappropriate websites taken down (they're not doing that) among other things. If you have heard from DJI officially, please let us know and I will give them the credit they deserve for taking positive action. Personally I haven't heard a peep from DJI other than saying they need our help. If you don't believe this is a problem, wait until after Dec 23rd, you'll see what I mean:

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DJI absolutely cares about the U.S.; it’s about 30% of their business. They’re just navigating the reality of the current market and regulations.

And let’s be clear: the same rules and restrictions that affect DJI and Autel apply to any Chinese drone company trying to sell here, including Arashi Vision.

They care but IMO (absolutely cares is rather strong), they didn't try hard enough to accommodate Americans in several areas including effective communications. "We love you but you would never hear us say it aloud." They could have relocated their US repair operations to another...

• mavic3usa

 

[Dave Pitman]

DJI should work to have inappropriate websites taken down (they're not doing that) among other things

Do you think DJI controls the internet? Please do enlighten us as to what you expect DJI should be able to do?

Personally I haven't heard a peep from DJI other than saying they need our help. If you don't believe this is a problem, wait until after Dec 23rd, you'll see what I mean:

So, the US gov't gives DJI an ultimatum that relies on action from the US gov't, not DJI. Then, when the US gov't takes no action, you want to blame DJI for something? You might fit right in with the current regime with that logic.

 

[SkyeHigh]

I couldn’t agree more.

DJI are between a rock and a hard place. They are in their current position because of ridiculously unfounded and unproven ’spying?’ on US soil, something anyone with any device and an Internet connection could do. The vast majority of IOT home devices and sensors are made in China, what secrets are they sending to the homeland?

The truth is China is spying on ALL developed countries and so is the US, UK, Australia, Russia…

So what’s the difference here? DJI make flying cameras, arguably the best and most capable in the world. But paranoia and a US-based drone manufacturer cannot compete on cost, capability and quality so they go bleating to the Administration crying it’s not fair and fixate the Administration on their paranoia and ignorance of anything technical, and not for the first time as we all know.

If DJI were to fight by informing all their customers, if they are able, of what the Administration is doing to them and their products, then the Administration would have reason to blame DJI of trying to interfere with politics and their so called ‘due process of investigation into the hardware’, which still hasn’t happened, and probably won’t.

Here in Australia we have similar paranoia. We know China is spying on us. We withdrew Huawei 5G hardware as did the US and UK, because it was proven to be able to remotely monitor communications. It has just been discovered that recently purchased coaches from China have a Kill Switch that can be triggered remotely to stop and disable the vehicle. Maybe every Chinese manufactured electric vehicle could be remotely stopped too. Who knows? But at least it is being tested and if it found to be the case it would be disastrous to the Chinese manufacturers and any reputation they have.

DJI have an excellent reputation around the majority of the world. Why would they risk being caught out? It would destroy their business and any trust they had - commercial suicide.

Please Trump Adminstration, stop listening to the whining non-competitive lobbyists and do the right thing and test DJI’s products.

 

[mavic3usa]

Do you think DJI controls the internet? Please do enlighten us as to what you expect DJI should be able to do?


So, the US gov't gives DJI an ultimatum that relies on action from the US gov't, not DJI. Then, when the US gov't takes no action, you want to blame DJI for something? You might fit right in with the current regime with that logic.

DJI controls their company on the internet or at least I thought they did. DJI knows what they have to do, they don't need to me set their Company expectations for them.

Just sit back and wait for the 23rd to come around, you'll understand what I mean.

 

[Dave Pitman]

DJI controls their company on the internet or at least I thought they did. DJI knows what they have to do, they don't need to me set their Company expectations for them.

DJI controls dji.com . I thought you had a problem with the sites that have "dji" as part of their name? DJI has no control at all with those sites. You need to spell out where you think they are falling short?
Let's say your name is "joe" and you have a domain "joe.com". Then, there are sites that contain the letters "joe" in the url. What do you think you could do to stop them?

Just sit back and wait for the 23rd to come around, you'll understand what I mean.

There are things beyond my and your and DJI's control. You understand that, right?

 

[GadgetGuy]

DJI controls dji.com . I thought you had a problem with the sites that have "dji" as part of their name? DJI has no control at all with those sites. You need to spell out where you think they are falling short?
Let's say your name is "joe" and you have a domain "joe.com". Then, there are sites that contain the letters "joe" in the url. What do you think you could do to stop them?

There are things beyond my and your and DJI's control. You understand that, right?

The void left behind is from the inability of DJI themselves to ship any drones into the U.S.

It has created a vacuum of demand, now being fulfilled by likely scam chameleon web sites like these, pretending to be DJI USA.

The real subject of this thread should be whether these two websites can actually deliver what they are purportedly selling, rather than rehashing the reasons for the void in the U.S., which already have plenty of other threads.

I already have all Mavic 4 Pro Creator Combos and Mini 5 Pro Combo Plus kits I will ever need at these MSRP prices, acquired over the last several months from Adorama, S. Korea, and Amazon Marketplace.

So, who wants to be the guinea pig, and order from these sites, to see whether they will actually deliver the genuine goods, or are just shipping out a box of rocks?

 

[Vic Moss]

As someone who works closely with DJI folks here in the U.S., I can promise you they have not left the US market "unprotected and in disarray". They are working very hard to get CBP to cease stopping shipments. DJI has answered every question and concern CBP has raised, and all they get back is a generic "denied" form letter. CBP will not show proof, nor tell DJI exactly what the issue is. I have no doubt at all in my mind that this is due to pressure from the D.C. elected official who are the back pockets of the likes of Skydio, Brinc, State Armor, and AUVSI.

More here: Navigating U.S. Customs: Demonstrating DJI’s Commitment to Ethical Production & Labor Practices

Same thing with the DOD lawsuit. The judge agreed with everything DJI said was wrong with their inclusion in the Chinese Military Company List except two things. And if those two things were applied fairly across the spectrum, that DOD list would be massive.

More here: DJI Statement on U.S. Court Ruling Regarding Department of Defense Designation - DJI

Thirdly, the audit deadline is quickly approaching, and there are many folks and entities working back channels to get an extension. It can some via the FY2026 NDAA Conference Bill, a separate bill introduced, or even a lawsuit demanding an extension. Although I don't understand the legal aspects (although they've been explained to me), the methodology behind the ban (automatic ban unless they're proven safe) is not the accepted means of inclusion on the FCC entity list. There has to be proof. So if a lawsuit is filed, a stay order can be issued by the judge until the security audit can be performed.

As far as who DJI-CLUB is, it's a brand new domain (9.8.25), and based in China using Alibaba servers. So who knows how legit it is. I would proceed with caution if you're thinking about buying from them. If you want to purchase a DJI at the moment, use U.S. based sellers. It will just take a while.

https://www.godaddy.com/whois/results.aspx?itc=dlp_domain_whois&domain=DJI-Club

 

[ZergSolo]

'...DJI has left everything unprotected and in disarray, you'll have victims who will either believe DJI hasn't left the market or that they've returned to the US and is eager to sell drones again...'

To be honest with you. What you say is unfair. It isn't DJI that's left you with your arse hanging out... they still do honest business in the countries where they're not pariahs. It's the deliberate constraints and blockages engineered by your own 'representatives' that have led to this situation in the US.

Attribute blame where blame is due.

Make the most of it... I'll give this comment all of 10 minutes before it's complained about and deleted because of "political" reasons

 

[offtheback]

A possible strategy for DJI would be a 10 million dollar donation to the Trump Presidential Library.I would donate to DJI's Gofundme for that.

 

[anotherlab]

DJI should work to have inappropriate websites taken down (they're not doing that) among other things.

Do you think DJI controls the internet? Please do enlighten us as to what you expect DJI should be able to do?

IANAL, but DJI has probable grounds to sue the other entity on trademark infringement or trade dress infringement. If a court rules that the other site was causing customer confusion, it could award damages and have the domain name turned over to DJI.

DJI could be doing this already; they wouldn't need to put out press releases for every legal action they took.

That being said, if DJI is no longer directly selling to the US, why would they spend the time and money going after pop-up stores in the US? They are not losing sales to those stores.

 

[Cafguy]

I think DJI has been MORE than cooperative with the government only to be ghosted by them. I think we have all been there!
You have some valid complaints BUT I think you are directing those complaints at the wrong people. The Lobbyist that work for the American Drone industry did this,..and they did this with whimsical dreams of producing, in America mind you, a Drone that is just as good for the same price. (insert laugh track here)
If our government believes that, then they have truly lost touch with reality!
DJI still builds and imports Camera stabilizers by the boatload and according to the service tech there,They have no plans to stop doing that.
DJI Stopped shipments of Drones and parts into the U.S. and I don't blame them a bit. Why should DJI go broke trying to import a product to a country that does nothing but cause them grief..No matter the profit potential.
While not as substantial as their Drone sales here, DJI still has a product in the U.S. that is the industry standard in it's field, and the Profits from the U.S. will keep rolling in...
If we stand up and are loud enough we may just get thru to the Government..at least that's the hope.
However in today's world of every company wanting to use Drones as their primary delivery vehicles, I fear the want to overtax 107 operations will end up killing off the recreational aspect of our hobby. At least the hobby as we know it today.
Rules will only get tighter and tighter and the propaganda will only get worse.
Unfortunately our government can point to Europe and the big new "Drone War" over there, and scare the rest of the public into submission.
We all know how ridiculous this whole DJI thing is but maybe As a hobbyist I think it may be time to start coming to the realization that in order to keep flying our Drones,we all better be ready to aquire a part 107 cert. and possibly be ready to face a few "fees" from the Government at times.
Its either that or face the fact that as a recreational pilot you will soon be loading all your stuff in your car and driving to the AMA field to enjoy your toys.

 

[mavic3usa]

IANAL, but DJI has probable grounds to sue the other entity on trademark infringement or trade dress infringement. If a court rules that the other site was causing customer confusion, it could award damages and have the domain name turned over to DJI.

DJI could be doing this already; they wouldn't need to put out press releases for every legal action they took.

That being said, if DJI is no longer directly selling to the US, why would they spend the time and money going after pop-up stores in the US? They are not losing sales to those stores.

If DJI doesn't defend their images, trademarks, copyrights, and branding then they'll weaken their company and lose their ability to fight against infringement in the future which would be ironic for a Chinese company in a country rife with patent theft.

They need to send a letter to those companies and tell them to stop claiming they are "authorized" and stop telling customers their goods have a US warranty and stop using all their DJI drone images they stole and stop using the same website format as dji.com in an attempt to deceive customers and stop using the dji name in the URL trying to fool people into believing they are visiting dji.com and stop using the dji logo (mostly in the images) without permission and remove that link to SkyPixel.

This is at a minimum, there are a dozen more things for DJI to do but I'm not their lawyer; they need to do these things without input from me before we have a dozen more fake DJI websites show up, some of which are going to be pretty nasty (take all your money, delay after delay after delay, and then abscond).

 

[Chip]

Here in Australia... It has just been discovered that recently purchased coaches from China have a Kill Switch that can be triggered remotely to stop and disable the vehicle...

It could be worse. Just think if thousands of those coaches were already embedded throughout your country's military, law enforcement, fire, search and rescue, etc. I wonder who would have the authority to hit the kill switch and what that would do in time of war or crisis?

 

[Felix le Chat]

Hmmm.... A remotely triggered 'kill switch' that cripples a bus or truck and renders it useless.... that is a huge worry and could cause chaos.

So why doesn't anyone turn a hair with exactly the same system built into Tesla cars? Could it be down to where the 'enemy within' 5th Column threat was built?