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So people shouldn't say anything when someone like Luigi Mangione is spotted in a fast-food restaurant? Or Ted Kaczybski shouldn't have been "snitched" on by his brother?

Now you are simply being ridiculous.

There is no concern for anyone being ratted out, if they are not doing anything illegal. If they are doing something illegal, then yes, they deserve to be ratted out and thanks to the person that does report them for doing an illegal thing.

I'm sure if someone was robbing from your house or stealing your car, you would WANT your neighbor to "Rat" on the criminal, because it was your stuff that was being taken.

Yet you seem to be fine with not "ratting out" someone, as long as it was NOT you that it was affecting. Not a nice person to have in anyone's community.

I 100% stand by what I said and those are ridiculous analogies to make. You should know better. It's almost not even worth a reply.

If I see someone flying BVLOS or flying from within a park for a quick stealth flight that harms no one, will I snitch ? No.

If I see someone engaging in repeated behaviors that puts others at risk, such as flying over a crowed and buzzing people with their drone ? I'd be inclined to either approach the person and tell them how dangerous their activity is, or notify whomever is in charge there that someone is engaging in dangerous behavior.

Sounds like a bunch of you keep the FAA's number on speed dial.
 
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So people shouldn't say anything when someone like Luigi Mangione is spotted in a fast-food restaurant? Or Ted Kaczybski shouldn't have been "snitched" on by his brother?

Now you are simply being ridiculous.
That was the point. It was in response to something extreme.

This isn't a black and white issue. It's situational.
 
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I found this thread, and thought this might be good place to start a conversation. I live on Vancouver Island, and I respect the "no fly" zones of Provincial Parks and of course, aerial flight paths (float planes, especially). However, there is a local professional photographer who publishes his drone photos, very often taken in forbidden areas and over marine mammals. I've gently chided him on this, and he's gotten a bit defensive, insisting that he's got permissions (highly doubtful). Now, there's another photographer who is posting videos to YouTube, and he's clearly been flying deep IN the Provincial Parks nearby (delicious photos of waterfalls). Now, I'm simply jealous, because I, too, would love to fly in such places, but I refrain because I don't wish to get into trouble, BUT ALSO, because, if I do it, then I'm being a poor ambassador of the craft, and thus, the next person who just got a drone and doesn't know the rules will just follow along and do the same... .and then we have even more strict rules, eh?

I don't know if I should bother pointing out to people who are clearly breaking the rules, or, should I stand down and fume that they are getting something I really wish I had?
 
I found this thread, and thought this might be good place to start a conversation. I live on Vancouver Island, and I respect the "no fly" zones of Provincial Parks and of course, aerial flight paths (float planes, especially). However, there is a local professional photographer who publishes his drone photos, very often taken in forbidden areas and over marine mammals. I've gently chided him on this, and he's gotten a bit defensive, insisting that he's got permissions (highly doubtful). Now, there's another photographer who is posting videos to YouTube, and he's clearly been flying deep IN the Provincial Parks nearby (delicious photos of waterfalls). Now, I'm simply jealous, because I, too, would love to fly in such places, but I refrain because I don't wish to get into trouble, BUT ALSO, because, if I do it, then I'm being a poor ambassador of the craft, and thus, the next person who just got a drone and doesn't know the rules will just follow along and do the same... .and then we have even more strict rules, eh?

I don't know if I should bother pointing out to people who are clearly breaking the rules, or, should I stand down and fume that they are getting something I really wish I had?
I know the feeling, hate it too. Good example of why I say the rules and regulations are meant to prohibit the honest, law-abiding citizens....because nothing is being done to enforce them. That's why your mates are breaking the rules; they know the law-makers don't give a ****. The problem is we respect the laws, to our detriment it seems. Even if they just so happen to get caught....slap on the wrist.
 
I found this thread, and thought this might be good place to start a conversation. I live on Vancouver Island, and I respect the "no fly" zones of Provincial Parks and of course, aerial flight paths (float planes, especially). However, there is a local professional photographer who publishes his drone photos, very often taken in forbidden areas and over marine mammals. I've gently chided him on this, and he's gotten a bit defensive, insisting that he's got permissions (highly doubtful). Now, there's another photographer who is posting videos to YouTube, and he's clearly been flying deep IN the Provincial Parks nearby (delicious photos of waterfalls). Now, I'm simply jealous, because I, too, would love to fly in such places, but I refrain because I don't wish to get into trouble, BUT ALSO, because, if I do it, then I'm being a poor ambassador of the craft, and thus, the next person who just got a drone and doesn't know the rules will just follow along and do the same... .and then we have even more strict rules, eh?

I don't know if I should bother pointing out to people who are clearly breaking the rules, or, should I stand down and fume that they are getting something I really wish I had?
You may not know all the circumstances surrounding their flights, so best not to stick your nose in where it might not be welcome. And definitely don't be a tattle-snitch. At 66 years of age, you should know better, and I say this with the most respect!
Some here can't tell the difference between apples and oranges and go full bore on the 'I'm telling' Karen snitch mode... but don't let that influence you.

I don't know if you read this article, and if you have not, do read it, especially the part about 'the drone police' on forums!!!

 
You may not know all the circumstances surrounding their flights, so best not to stick your nose in where it might not be welcome. And definitely don't be a tattle-snitch. At 66 years of age, you should know better, and I say this with the most respect!
Some here can't tell the difference between apples and oranges and go full bore on the 'I'm telling' Karen snitch mode... but don't let that influence you.
At 66 years of age, I'm sure he has outgrown, long ago, his school yard child talk about snitches and tattle tales. I wonder why you still seem so keen to keep those silly kiddy school yard sayings right out there in the open. We all grew up a long time ago and have mostly forgotten kids talk.

We have discussed the comparisons of speeding, but when others speed and get caught or not, that does not affect the rest of us. If it were the case that when speeders get caught, the law began to lower the speed limit for all of us driving, I'm sure more of us would be speaking up and reporting speeders.

People stupidly flying and putting others at risk, either on the ground below their drone, or for the rest of us to possibly have laws changed again, that would affect all of our flying freedom, due to the flying actions of these rule/law breakers, then yes, they deserve to be reported. The word "Snitching" is a children's playground term. People who still use such words really need to be accompanied by an adult.
 
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You may not know all the circumstances surrounding their flights, so best not to stick your nose in where it might not be welcome. And definitely don't be a tattle-snitch. At 66 years of age, you should know better, and I say this with the most respect!
Some here can't tell the difference between apples and oranges and go full bore on the 'I'm telling' Karen snitch mode... but don't let that influence you.

I don't know if you read this article, and if you have not, do read it, especially the part about 'the drone police' on forums!!!

I HAVE read that article, and it's confounding in the privileges afforded to the mini drones. So confounding that, it seems, anyone with a Mini can do nearly anything they want. But flying in Provincial Parks is a clear no-fly zone. So, back to my question: how should I approach informing those that I am aware of breaking those rules? FYI, the one instance I noted for the person posting to YouTube - he took my admonitions to heart, and thanked me for informing him of the "no flying in Provincial Parks" rule. However, the video remains up on YouTube, so others might read that as a "go ahead and do what you want". That would be a shame, because, then others will follow, and then restrictions get more restrict.
 
I HAVE read that article, and it's confounding in the privileges afforded to the mini drones. So confounding that, it seems, anyone with a Mini can do nearly anything they want. But flying in Provincial Parks is a clear no-fly zone. So, back to my question: how should I approach informing those that I am aware of breaking those rules? FYI, the one instance I noted for the person posting to YouTube - he took my admonitions to heart, and thanked me for informing him of the "no flying in Provincial Parks" rule. However, the video remains up on YouTube, so others might read that as a "go ahead and do what you want". That would be a shame, because, then others will follow, and then restrictions get more restrict.
"No flying in Provincial Parks" rule is dependent on where the person has taken off/landed his drone. There are places on the edge of a park where they are legally able to take off and then legally fly through the park. Some drone operators don't want others to know these locations otherwise it becomes an issue with copycat fliers. Just like the over-tourism hotspots that ruin it for everyone. Like this for example:
 
You assuming that they are not already informed. Maybe they are and don't care.
Case in point, the YouTube video is still up.
 
I found this thread, and thought this might be good place to start a conversation. I live on Vancouver Island, and I respect the "no fly" zones of Provincial Parks and of course, aerial flight paths (float planes, especially). However, there is a local professional photographer who publishes his drone photos, very often taken in forbidden areas and over marine mammals. I've gently chided him on this, and he's gotten a bit defensive, insisting that he's got permissions (highly doubtful). Now, there's another photographer who is posting videos to YouTube, and he's clearly been flying deep IN the Provincial Parks nearby (delicious photos of waterfalls). Now, I'm simply jealous, because I, too, would love to fly in such places, but I refrain because I don't wish to get into trouble, BUT ALSO, because, if I do it, then I'm being a poor ambassador of the craft, and thus, the next person who just got a drone and doesn't know the rules will just follow along and do the same... .and then we have even more strict rules, eh?

I don't know if I should bother pointing out to people who are clearly breaking the rules, or, should I stand down and fume that they are getting something I really wish I had?


MYOB is always a good rule to follow.

these people are unlikely to listen to you in any case
 
I HAVE read that article, and it's confounding in the privileges afforded to the mini drones. So confounding that, it seems, anyone with a Mini can do nearly anything they want. But flying in Provincial Parks is a clear no-fly zone. So, back to my question: how should I approach informing those that I am aware of breaking those rules? FYI, the one instance I noted for the person posting to YouTube - he took my admonitions to heart, and thanked me for informing him of the "no flying in Provincial Parks" rule. However, the video remains up on YouTube, so others might read that as a "go ahead and do what you want". That would be a shame, because, then others will follow, and then restrictions get more restrict.
Although I live in the US, I have flown at Provincial parks in BC, however, only after getting exclusive permission from a park ranger. I, of course have a valid SFOC-RPAS.
 

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