Question: Does the 3S support AEB (bracketed) panoramas

[Erk1024]

I know you can do "free panoramas" and that's awesome and really useful. But can you shoot those with brackets? Or any auto panorama mode with brackets?

I know you can take manual panoramas, and I do all the time, but they can be a bit error prone. Or maybe I'm just error prone. But being able to shoot AEB shots automatically would be a big help (and something the community has desired for a while).

 

[GadgetGuy]

I know you can do "free panoramas" and that's awesome and really useful. But can you shoot those with brackets? Or any auto panorama mode with brackets?

I know you can take manual panoramas, and I do all the time, but they can be a bit error prone. Or maybe I'm just error prone. But being able to shoot AEB shots automatically would be a big help (and something the community has desired for a while).

Doubtful, as the extra shots would triple the shooting time and require someone to manually select which of the bracketed shots to use for each image component of the resulting in camera stitch. Just saving three times as many images to the microSD card would interfere with the practicality of such an automated capability. Even the 126 70mm equivalent images shot for the spherical pano are excessive, and mostly a waste of time, as the top two or three rows are all empty sky in most cases, and must be discarded for manual stitching purposes.

 

[BingBong]

I know you can do "free panoramas" and that's awesome and really useful. But can you shoot those with brackets? Or any auto panorama mode with brackets?

I know you can take manual panoramas, and I do all the time, but they can be a bit error prone. Or maybe I'm just error prone. But being able to shoot AEB shots automatically would be a big help (and something the community has desired for a while).

If it's like the Air 2S, it effectively brackets the exposures across the stitched frames, varying the exposures across frames, and compensating during stitching. That makes it harder for third party apps to stitch.

 

[shawn67]

I know you can do "free panoramas" and that's awesome and really useful. But can you shoot those with brackets? Or any auto panorama mode with brackets?

I know you can take manual panoramas, and I do all the time, but they can be a bit error prone. Or maybe I'm just error prone. But being able to shoot AEB shots automatically would be a big help (and something the community has desired for a while).

No, if you have AEB selected and shoot a panorama it is only taking one shot for each location.

 

[shawn67]

If it's like the Air 2S, it effectively brackets the exposures across the stitched frames, varying the exposures across frames, and compensating during stitching. That makes it harder for third party apps to stitch.

Yes, it exposes each shot individually (not locked for all). If you shoot DNG, Lightroom does a great job of exposure blending the different shots.

 

[BingBong]

Yes, it exposes each shot individually (not locked for all). If you shoot DNG, Lightroom does a great job of exposure blending the different shots.

I often merge horizontal panos from DNGs in Lightroom Classic with varying exposures which works well as you say. Have you tried merging 360 or wide angle panos from DNGs recently? I tried a 360 when I first got the Air 2S, and LrC gave up.

 

[Erk1024]

The problem with Lightroom Classic is that if it can't figure out the stitch, there is no way to correct it. You just get a panorama that's missing a chunk out of it. So that's when you have to turn to tools like ptGui, were you can specify control points manually.

 

[shawn67]

I often merge horizontal panos from DNGs in Lightroom Classic with varying exposures which works well as you say. Have you tried merging 360 or wide angle panos from DNGs recently? I tried a 360 when I first got the Air 2S, and LrC gave up.

I haven't tried a 360 yet. I did a 30 shot pano merge with the 70mm. LR handled it fine, the pano ended up at 230 megapixels. (29152x7892)

 

[shawn67]

The problem with Lightroom Classic is that if it can't figure out the stitch, there is no way to correct it. You just get a panorama that's missing a chunk out of it. So that's when you have to turn to tools like ptGui, were you can specify control points manually.

True but I've rarely had that happen. I don't think it has failed anything from the DJI.

I shoot a fair amount of Panos with 6x17 and 6x24 film camera with the negatives stitched in LR and also a 4 camera digital setup that is stitched in LR. I have Autopano Giga but rarely use it as LR handles exposure and lens correction better and is dramatically quicker when batching everything.

 

[BingBong]

I haven't tried a 360 yet. I did a 30 shot pano merge with the 70mm. LR handled it fine, the pano ended up at 230 megapixels. (29152x7892)

Were they shot manually, or with Free Panorama? What was the format (number of rows)?

 

[shawn67]

Were they shot manually, or with Free Panorama? What was the format (number of rows)?

Free Pano,it was 10 wide by 3 high. Was just a test to see if it could handle it to see what kind of resolution it would capture. Here it is showing the Auto Crop that was applied to the blend.



This is from the top left corner.



The drone also blended them and produced a JPG, it was around 49 megapixels. The in drone JPG blend tends to be cropped tighter than what you can do with the DNGs.

 

[Erk1024]

Free Pano,it was 10 wide by 3 high. Was just a test to see if it could handle it to see what kind of resolution it would capture. Here it is showing the Auto Crop that was applied to the blend.

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This is from the top left corner.

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The drone also blended them and produced a JPG, it was around 49 megapixels. The in drone JPG blend tends to be cropped tighter than what you can do with the DNGs.

That's amazing! So cool.

 

[davidarmenb]

Yes, with the Air 3S, if shooting Free panorama, you can choose to shoot in 12MP or 48/50MP, and shoot bracketed in 3 or 5 frames. I have done this many times.

 

[Erk1024]

Yes, with the Air 3S, if shooting Free panorama, you can choose to shoot in 12MP or 48/50MP, and shoot bracketed in 3 or 5 frames. I have done this many times.

Wow. That's so cool! That feature would be a huge help. Thanks for letting me know! I couldn't find it in the documentation anywhere.

 

[shawn67]

Yes, with the Air 3S, if shooting Free panorama, you can choose to shoot in 12MP or 48/50MP, and shoot bracketed in 3 or 5 frames. I have done this many times.

Just retried this since I wasn't getting this. The trick to this is it doesn't use the standard AEB setting that you select next to the selector for Panoramics. After you put it into panoramic mode you have to go into the camera settings for it and within that there is an option to take 1, 3 or 5 shots.

 

[davidarmenb]

Just retried this since I wasn't getting this. The trick to this is it doesn't use the standard AEB setting that you select next to the selector for Panoramics. After you put it into panoramic mode you have to go into the camera settings for it and within that there is an option to take 1, 3 or 5 shots.

That’s correct. It is a separate setting and is located in the section where you normally choose the resolution, annd is only available after you enter the Free Panorama shooting mode. Also, changing the resolution or using AEB is not available in the other panorama shooting modes, only Free Panorama.