Why doesn't ( or does ) the regs require an RC helicopter or airplane pilot with a camera on it to have a 107 cert?
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Part 107 for drones is about commercialisation, isn't it ?
I guess if an RC heli or plane pilot was using theirs for commercial purposes, they are probably required to have part 107 too ?
For example remote plane agricultural IR photography, fertiliser / seeding etc.
I guess if an RC heli or plane pilot was using theirs for commercial purposes, they are probably required to have part 107 too ?
For example remote plane agricultural IR photography, fertiliser / seeding etc.
I’m sure most if not all RC helicopter or Aeroplane pilots would have at least one camera, often on them.
Seriously- someone familiar with the intricacies will, no doubt, be along shortly to clarify however my suspicion is that any flying model with a camera could meet the definition of small UAV for the purpose of 107. I can’t see any important distinction from multi rotors.
Seriously- someone familiar with the intricacies will, no doubt, be along shortly to clarify however my suspicion is that any flying model with a camera could meet the definition of small UAV for the purpose of 107. I can’t see any important distinction from multi rotors.
Multi-Rotor Pilot812
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As stated in comments 2 & 3 I believe that’s why the FAA uses the distinction of sUAS and not necessarily “drone” to pretty much cover all the bases. Also as a long time fixed wing r/c pilot I can tell you when flying fixed wing aircraft especially 1/4 scale and larger having a nice community (club) type location with a nice concrete or well maintained grass runway is ideal.
I would never even consider flying my large fixed wing aircraft anywhere but. Most of my fellow fixed wing pilots feel the same way so I think in general these type of aircraft aren’t considered as much as part of the “problem” as multi-rotor craft are.
My fixed wings are a blast to fly at my local r/c airport where as my multi-rotors are mostly quite boring to fly there. Also as previously stated multi-rotors for most applications are better suited for commercial and photography purposes so I think regulations have pretty much focused on this segment of the r/c community.
Then there’s the fact that unlike fixed wing and collective pitch heli aircraft a multi-rotor can be picked up by somebody with no experience and in very short order be flying it inappropriately and causing a menace. If a would be r/c pilot tries that with the other aircraft I just mentioned then more than likely they will be collecting it in a trash bag rather than flying in manned aircraft airspace. So by that account multi-rotors are naturally going to be part of most instances where the laws and regulations are not being adhered to in my opinion.
I would never even consider flying my large fixed wing aircraft anywhere but. Most of my fellow fixed wing pilots feel the same way so I think in general these type of aircraft aren’t considered as much as part of the “problem” as multi-rotor craft are.
My fixed wings are a blast to fly at my local r/c airport where as my multi-rotors are mostly quite boring to fly there. Also as previously stated multi-rotors for most applications are better suited for commercial and photography purposes so I think regulations have pretty much focused on this segment of the r/c community.
Then there’s the fact that unlike fixed wing and collective pitch heli aircraft a multi-rotor can be picked up by somebody with no experience and in very short order be flying it inappropriately and causing a menace. If a would be r/c pilot tries that with the other aircraft I just mentioned then more than likely they will be collecting it in a trash bag rather than flying in manned aircraft airspace. So by that account multi-rotors are naturally going to be part of most instances where the laws and regulations are not being adhered to in my opinion.
as #Mavic_South_Oz said the requirement for part 107 is commercial, but for all other flying camera equipped craft, it is the same as the drone code in the UK anyway for height and distance ,from objects or people
PhantomFandom
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In the USA, the FAA is our governing body that controls all airspace. The regulations are written for UAV or UAS, which cover any unmanned remote-controlled aerial system. As such, it includes quad-copters, helicopters, fixed wing, hexa-copters, etc... There really is no need to make a distinction between them.
As far as Part 107, where are you getting the idea that "the regs require an RC helicopter or airplane pilot with a camera on it to have a 107 cert?" A UAV may have a camera or can be without a camera, but that in no way determines applicability of Part 107. A Part 107 license is only needed if the UAV is used for anything other than purely recreational reasons.
Drones = sUAS = R/c plane, Helicopter, MultiRotors, and anything else. Camera or not makes no difference to the FAA.
Someone flying an R/C helicopter/Airplane etc (with or without a camera) for anything other than HOBBY/Recreational requires either Part 107 or a Public Use COA. The FAA does not make any distinctions between R/C aircraft other than weight, speed, and intended use.
For example: There are some very sophisticated R/C helicopters on the market in the AG Spray realm. They may or may not have cameras but they are being flown in a manner to support a company in the AG industry (spraying crops etc). As long as they are under 55lbs, fly less than 100mph, and not flown for Hobby they require Part 107 to be compliant to FAA Regulations. No portion of the Regs state camera or not.
Someone flying an R/C helicopter/Airplane etc (with or without a camera) for anything other than HOBBY/Recreational requires either Part 107 or a Public Use COA. The FAA does not make any distinctions between R/C aircraft other than weight, speed, and intended use.
For example: There are some very sophisticated R/C helicopters on the market in the AG Spray realm. They may or may not have cameras but they are being flown in a manner to support a company in the AG industry (spraying crops etc). As long as they are under 55lbs, fly less than 100mph, and not flown for Hobby they require Part 107 to be compliant to FAA Regulations. No portion of the Regs state camera or not.
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