DJI Mavic pilots - Australia

[rt60]

Hi Guys,
I'm in Sydney Hills area, just got my Mavic a couple of weeks ago.
Does anyone know about decrease in the range and gps problem when using the mavic in isolated areas where there is no phone reception? I took mine to Fiji but was worried about losing it at sea due to no GPS signal on some remote islands.
Got the fly more package too by the way, it's pretty cool.

The phone reception is only needed for loading the map overlay. Shouldn't have anything to do with rc signal range or gps reception. Make sure you do have gps for the home point to be recorded before takeoff in case you do fly out of signal.

 

[SteveT]

Mine says the same. Stuck in customs

Just released from customs this morning. I think DJI are undervaluing to save on import duties. I had to email invoice to prove value.

 

[Richo]

The phone reception is only needed for loading the map overlay. Shouldn't have anything to do with rc signal range or gps reception. Make sure you do have gps for the home point to be recorded before takeoff in case you do fly out of signal.

Thanks for the tips, I'll make sure I don't fly in risky island areas

 

[beerad]

Hi guys,
I'm from Perth, WA and have finally got my Mavic.... FYI, i ordered mine online from AusCameras in Melbourne on October 17 2016 and it arrived this Monday 23rd Jan 2017!!!
Got the flymore kit, with 3 batteries, 64gb card, shoulder bag, car charger etc..
Loving it so far!
Cheers

 

[bakerboy]

Hi guys,
I'm from Perth, WA and have finally got my Mavic.... FYI, i ordered mine online from AusCameras in Melbourne on October 17 2016 and it arrived this Monday 23rd Jan 2017!!!
Got the flymore kit, with 3 batteries, 64gb card, shoulder bag, car charger etc..
Loving it so far!
Cheers

NOR or SOR?

 

[beerad]

EOR haha

 

[Ravenix]

HI I'm from Melbourne, Victoria,

Has anyone got any drone location where we could go further thatn120m in Victoria, took my mavic out for the first time yesterday

 

[froozen]

I fly in perth sor .. mavic phantom. And mini racers

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[hervé MAGNY]

Another Blue Mountains Mavic owner here. A shot taken fro


Lovely video! I'm from Faulconbridge. Here's a shot from my neck of the woods.

Faulconbridge, Blue Mountains

• baggytrowsers
• Dec 31, 2016

Très très beau ...


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[kencameron]

Hi Guys,
I'm in Sydney Hills area, just got my Mavic a couple of weeks ago.
Does anyone know about decrease in the range and gps problem when using the mavic in isolated areas where there is no phone reception? I took mine to Fiji but was worried about losing it at sea due to no GPS signal on some remote islands.
Got the fly more package too by the way, it's pretty cool.

GPS shouldn't be a problem on remote islands as the signals come from satellites. Perhaps you meant phone reception.

 

[stratos]

Hey Stratos,

I was going to fly in Sydney harbor soon too, have you heard of any restriction due to seaplane airspace at all?

I think there is a gray area on this matter. I got a couple of my videos flagged by some idiot scaring the **** out of me sa police start posting crap of them.

Based on CASA rules at least on their website the rules are simple and the same time quite confusing.

For a start the rules for flying drones in Australia reduce to simple rules:

• In controlled air space the operating limit is 120 meters
• you shouldn't fly within 5.5 KMs of an airport / manned control tower
• not flying above crowds, people , stadiums
• fly at least 30 meters away from basically everything.

Now, based on CASA facebook they posted a low res map stating that the whole bay and the northshore of city, starting from the Harbour all the way to Chatswood its a no fly zone, however there is nothing officially posted .

By the way there are so many drone haters in Facebook demanding CASA to ban all drones flying in the city. Its actually quite sad.
There was a lady saying. " I thought I saw a drone and I think it was spying me, I saw him 5 seconds but I felt spied" WTBF

 

[stratos]

Sydney Harbour is NFZ seaplane and helis every where

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Show me the link to CASA where this is clearly stated

 

[HRTrulz]

Show me the link to CASA where this is clearly stated

Sydney Harbour is restricted airspace which means it's a NFZ

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[stratos]

Sydney Harbour is restricted airspace which means it's a NFZ

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Exactly as a Hobby flier you CAN FLY IN A CONTROLLED AIRSPACE provided you stay below 400ft.
Now there is NO information at all from CASA stating the restriction or exclusion area around the Harbour.

I do agree that it would be stupid to fly close to the Bridge. But no one can point me exactly on the areas of exclusions from CASA that include the Harbour area.

 

[stratos]

Sydney Harbour is restricted airspace which means it's a NFZ

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And by the way this Screenshot if from 2015... quite outdated.

 

[HRTrulz]

And by the way this Screenshot if from 2015... quite outdated.

Sydney Harbour is still restricted airspace. You need to refer to the airspace maps.

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[Logger]

Exactly as a Hobby flier you CAN FLY IN A CONTROLLED AIRSPACE provided you stay below 400ft.
Now there is NO information at all from CASA stating the restriction or exclusion area around the Harbour.

I do agree that it would be stupid to fly close to the Bridge. But no one can point me exactly on the areas of exclusions from CASA that include the Harbour area.

You are totally incorrect there mate. Standby and I shall post it shortly.

 

[Logger]

The Sydney harbour no fly zones or restricted areas are promulgated in the AIP by Air Services Australia in the Designated Airspace Handbook, under CASA regulation.

AIP DAH Excerpt:

SECTION 13 – PRD AREAS

Conditional RA (Restricted Area) Status
In order to assist with shared use of airspace, all restricted areas have been allocated an “RA Status”. This status will give an indication as to the likelihood of obtaining a clearance to fly through restricted airspace. NOTAMs may be issued to indicate changes to the RA Status; which should be checked prior to flight planning.
RA STATUS LEGEND:
Conditional RA 1: Pilots may flight plan through the Restricted Area and under normal circumstances expect a clearance from ATC.
Conditional RA 2: Pilots must not flight plan through the Restricted Area unless on a route specified in ERSA GEN FPR or under agreement with the Department of Defence, however a clearance from ATC is not assured. Other tracking may be offered through the Restricted Area on
a tactical basis.
Conditional RA 3: Pilots must not flight plan through the Restricted Area and clearances will not be available.

<snip>

YMMM/R405A SYDNEY
CONDITIONAL STATUS: RA3
HELICOPTERS & SEAPLANES
LATERAL LIMITS: 33 50 44S 151 07 48E 33 50 36S 151 07 11E
then along STH BANK PARRAMATTA RVR 8 to 33 50 10S 151 06 14E
then along S BANK PARRAMATTA RVR 2 to 33 49 37S 151 05 37E
then along S BANK PARRAMATTA RVR 9 to 33 49 32S 151 05 18E
then along the clockwise arc of a circle of 8.50NM radius centred on
33 56 38S 151 10 57E (SY/DME) to 33 48 07S 151 10 53E
then along THE PACIFIC HWY 3 to 33 51 10S 151 12 41E
33 51 20S 151 12 28E
then along THE S BANK PARRAMATTA RVR to 33 52 27S 151 11 59E
then along S BANK PARRAMATTA RVR 6 to 33 51 33S 151 11 45E
then along S BANK PARRAMATTA RVR 5 to 33 50 58S 151 10 50E
33 50 50S 151 10 20E, 33 50 57S 151 09 53E
33 50 51S 151 09 19E
then along S BANK PARRAMATTA RVR 4 to 33 50 43S 151 08 38E
33 50 52S 151 08 29E
then along S BANK PARRAMATTA RVR 3 to 33 50 44S 151 07 48E
VERTICAL LIMITS: SFC - 500
HOURS OF ACTIVITY: HJ
CONTROLLING AUTHORITY: CASA Sydney Region Operations

&

YMMM/R405B SYDNEY
CONDITIONAL STATUS: RA3
HELICOPTERS & SEAPLANES
LATERAL LIMITS: 33 49 49S 151 17 05E 33 50 06S 151 16 52E
then along SOUTHERN SHORE HARBOUR 5 to 33 51 09S 151 16 15E
then along SOUTHERN SHORE HARBOUR 4 to 33 52 22S 151 15 26E
then along SOUTHERN SHORE HARBOUR 3 to 33 51 56S 151 15 13E
then along SOUTHERN SHORE HARBOUR 2 to 33 51 33S 151 13 46E
then along SOUTHERN SHORE HARBOUR 1 to 33 51 20S 151 12 28E
33 51 10S 151 12 41E
then along THE PACIFIC HWY 3 to 33 48 07S 151 10 53E
then along the clockwise arc of a circle of 8.50NM radius centred on
33 56 38S 151 10 57E (SY/DME) to 33 49 49S 151 17 05E
VERTICAL LIMITS: SFC - 1000
HOURS OF ACTIVITY: HJ
CONTROLLING AUTHORITY: CASA Sydney Region Operations


DAH Effective Date 10 NOV 2016
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

THE PACIFIC HWY 3 being the harbour bridge crossing
HJ being between the hours between sunrise and sunset.

If you want an actual link here you go https://www.airservicesaustralia.com/aip/current/dah/dah.pdf
It is on page 126.

BTW for context here is the airspace designation for pine gap showing how it is restricted in the same manner as RA3. Part of the Pine gap RA is not even in controlled airspace, however this has no bearing on the restriction in any case.

YMMM/R215 PINE GAP
CONDITIONAL STATUS: RA3
JOINT DEFENCE FACILITY
LATERAL LIMITS: A Circle of 2.50NM radius centred on
23 48 21S 133 44 10E
VERTICAL LIMITS: SFC - FL180
HOURS OF ACTIVITY: H24
CONTROLLING AUTHORITY: Australian Chief of Security

 

[stratos]

The Sydney harbour no fly zones or restricted areas are promulgated in the AIP by Air Services Australia in the Designated Airspace Handbook, under CASA regulation.

AIP DAH Excerpt:

SECTION 13 – PRD AREAS

Conditional RA (Restricted Area) Status
In order to assist with shared use of airspace, all restricted areas have been allocated an “RA Status”. This status will give an indication as to the likelihood of obtaining a clearance to fly through restricted airspace. NOTAMs may be issued to indicate changes to the RA Status; which should be checked prior to flight planning.
RA STATUS LEGEND:
Conditional RA 1: Pilots may flight plan through the Restricted Area and under normal circumstances expect a clearance from ATC.
Conditional RA 2: Pilots must not flight plan through the Restricted Area unless on a route specified in ERSA GEN FPR or under agreement with the Department of Defence, however a clearance from ATC is not assured. Other tracking may be offered through the Restricted Area on
a tactical basis.
Conditional RA 3: Pilots must not flight plan through the Restricted Area and clearances will not be available.

<snip>

YMMM/R405A SYDNEY
CONDITIONAL STATUS: RA3
HELICOPTERS & SEAPLANES
LATERAL LIMITS: 33 50 44S 151 07 48E 33 50 36S 151 07 11E
then along STH BANK PARRAMATTA RVR 8 to 33 50 10S 151 06 14E
then along S BANK PARRAMATTA RVR 2 to 33 49 37S 151 05 37E
then along S BANK PARRAMATTA RVR 9 to 33 49 32S 151 05 18E
then along the clockwise arc of a circle of 8.50NM radius centred on
33 56 38S 151 10 57E (SY/DME) to 33 48 07S 151 10 53E
then along THE PACIFIC HWY 3 to 33 51 10S 151 12 41E
33 51 20S 151 12 28E
then along THE S BANK PARRAMATTA RVR to 33 52 27S 151 11 59E
then along S BANK PARRAMATTA RVR 6 to 33 51 33S 151 11 45E
then along S BANK PARRAMATTA RVR 5 to 33 50 58S 151 10 50E
33 50 50S 151 10 20E, 33 50 57S 151 09 53E
33 50 51S 151 09 19E
then along S BANK PARRAMATTA RVR 4 to 33 50 43S 151 08 38E
33 50 52S 151 08 29E
then along S BANK PARRAMATTA RVR 3 to 33 50 44S 151 07 48E
VERTICAL LIMITS: SFC - 500
HOURS OF ACTIVITY: HJ
CONTROLLING AUTHORITY: CASA Sydney Region Operations

&

YMMM/R405B SYDNEY
CONDITIONAL STATUS: RA3
HELICOPTERS & SEAPLANES
LATERAL LIMITS: 33 49 49S 151 17 05E 33 50 06S 151 16 52E
then along SOUTHERN SHORE HARBOUR 5 to 33 51 09S 151 16 15E
then along SOUTHERN SHORE HARBOUR 4 to 33 52 22S 151 15 26E
then along SOUTHERN SHORE HARBOUR 3 to 33 51 56S 151 15 13E
then along SOUTHERN SHORE HARBOUR 2 to 33 51 33S 151 13 46E
then along SOUTHERN SHORE HARBOUR 1 to 33 51 20S 151 12 28E
33 51 10S 151 12 41E
then along THE PACIFIC HWY 3 to 33 48 07S 151 10 53E
then along the clockwise arc of a circle of 8.50NM radius centred on
33 56 38S 151 10 57E (SY/DME) to 33 49 49S 151 17 05E
VERTICAL LIMITS: SFC - 1000
HOURS OF ACTIVITY: HJ
CONTROLLING AUTHORITY: CASA Sydney Region Operations


DAH Effective Date 10 NOV 2016
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

THE PACIFIC HWY 3 being the harbour bridge crossing
HJ being between the hours between sunrise and sunset.

If you want an actual link here you go https://www.airservicesaustralia.com/aip/current/dah/dah.pdf
It is on page 126.

BTW for context here is the airspace designation for pine gap showing how it is restricted in the same manner as RA3. Part of the Pine gap RA is not even in controlled airspace, however this has no bearing on the restriction in any case.

YMMM/R215 PINE GAP
CONDITIONAL STATUS: RA3
JOINT DEFENCE FACILITY
LATERAL LIMITS: A Circle of 2.50NM radius centred on
23 48 21S 133 44 10E
VERTICAL LIMITS: SFC - FL180
HOURS OF ACTIVITY: H24
CONTROLLING AUTHORITY: Australian Chief of Security

Mate this doesn't mean anything AT ALL to the normal hobbyist pilot.
And my point still valid, this is NOT clearly stated ANYWHERE in CASA website.

 

[stratos]

Sydney Harbour is still restricted airspace. You need to refer to the airspace maps.

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Can you point me to any published map from CASA that shows this precisely?