DJI sales in America.

[Max Headroom]

What are members views on the future of DJI in America, as the google search result below says DJI drones are not officially banned but they are being delayed and blocked, can you see a time when this will be lifted and you will once again be able to buy from DJI and get your drones repaired?

While there is no official ban, DJI drones are already extremely hard to find in the U.S. Many shipments are being delayed or blocked by U.S. customs, partly due to enforcement of the Uyghur Forced Labor Prevention Act (UFLPA) and increased scrutiny of Chinese tech imports. (DJI denies being in violation of the UFLPA.)

 

[mavic3usa]

I think we can now say there is a drone ban bill officially before the US Congress (Rick Scott) which if signed by the President will ultimately ban Chinese drones in the US. Anyone who says drones won't be banned is simply being disingenuous because the bill does have a chance to pass and should not be ignored. Anyone who continues to believe the government is not coming for your drones (for whatever reason) and doesn't care about recreational flyers and their drones is in denial. Anyone who believes the bill will fail (like it always does) and we can just get back to normal and the government will give up and never try again (or will fail the next time as well) is naive.

That's right, the future isn't what it used to be; THIS is your new future. That is all. Frustrated.

 

[Max Headroom]

Being from the UK i was unaware it had got so bad, i knew from reading threads here members were having issues with drones being blocked but i didn't know Trump is going for a total ban, fingers crossed it fails if it doesn't i am sure pilots will come up with innovative methods of getting their hands on DJI stuff in future.

I have always fancied a holiday in America

 

[moldorf]

New DJI drones are essentially banned, for the most part. Didn't take legislation just a zealous Customs Agency and an administration looking for sound-bytes and stunts

 

[Vic Moss]

I think we can now say there is a drone ban bill officially before the US Congress (Rick Scott) which if signed by the President will ultimately ban Chinese drones in the US. Anyone who says drones won't be banned is simply being disingenuous because the bill does have a chance to pass and should not be ignored. Anyone who continues to believe the government is not coming for your drones (for whatever reason) and doesn't care about recreational flyers and their drones is in denial. Anyone who believes the bill will fail (like it always does) and we can just get back to normal and the government will give up and never try again (or will fail the next time as well) is naive.

That's right, the future isn't what it used to be; THIS is your new future. That is all. Frustrated.

S.2168 is very unlikely to pass, or even make it out of committee. It was introduced into the Senate 0n 6/25, and read twice. Since then no movement. Part of that is the pace of Congress during the summer, but part is also the radical nature of this bill.

If folks want to track it, they need to sign up for a free GovTrack.US account and add it to their tracking list. Drones for America Act (S. 2168)

Folks can also just bookmark the bill in Congress.gov and keep an eye on it themselves. https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/senate-bill/2168

 

[Dale D]

Being from the UK i was unaware it had got so bad, i knew from reading threads here members were having issues with drones being blocked but i didn't know Trump is going for a total ban, fingers crossed it fails if it doesn't i am sure pilots will come up with innovative methods of getting their hands on DJI stuff in future.

I have always fancied a holiday in America

If you "fancy" a holiday in the US there are millions of reasons to still come. You will NEVER experience scenery like the Grand Canyon, the national parks of Utah(Arches, Canyonlands, etc) , the dark skies of the American West for astrophotography, the red rock country, of Sedona and the America West, the spectacular national parks, etc. anywhere else. And mostly, you can fly your drone anywhere but the parks.

Dale

 

[Meta4]

If you "fancy" a holiday in the US there are millions of reasons to still come. You will NEVER experience scenery like the Grand Canyon, the national parks of Utah(Arches, Canyonlands, etc) , the dark skies of the American West for astrophotography, the red rock country, of Sedona and the America West, the spectacular national parks, etc. anywhere else. And mostly, you can fly your drone anywhere but the parks.

That's all true, but ignores the issue of getting through immigration at the airport.

 

[MS Coast]

Anyone who continues to believe the government is not coming for your drones (for whatever reason) and doesn't care about recreational flyers and their drones is in denial.

This reminds me of those persistent fears that Hillary Clinton and Jane Fonda are coming to our homes to seize our firearms.

 

[Max Headroom]

If you "fancy" a holiday in the US

I meant to bring a drone with me

 

[mavic3usa]

If you "fancy" a holiday in the US there are millions of reasons to still come. You will NEVER experience scenery like the Grand Canyon, the national parks of Utah(Arches, Canyonlands, etc) , the dark skies of the American West for astrophotography, the red rock country, of Sedona and the America West, the spectacular national parks, etc. anywhere else. And mostly, you can fly your drone anywhere but the parks.

Dale

For those who don't know it, you CAN fly your drone at Red Rock Canyon. It's one of the few "national parks" that is the exception and in my mind, proves a sensible policy on flying drones can work at some national parks rather than having a zero-tolerance, no exceptions law.

Q: Is flying a drone allowed at Red Rock Canyon?
A: Yes, visitors can fly drones for recreational purposes at Red Rock Canyon. Please do not disturb wildlife or visitors while flying your drone.

Visitors are prohibited from launching and landing drones and other unmanned aircraft systems (UAS) in Red Rock Canyon's Wilderness Areas (La Madre Mountain Wilderness Area & Rainbow Mountain Wilderness Area).

The Las Vegas Soaring Club also has flying space nearby. To find out more information, please visit www. lvsoaringclub. org

 

[MS Coast]

For those who don't know it, you CAN fly your drone at Red Rock Canyon. It's one of the few "national parks" that is the exception

Red Rock Canyon is a National Conservation Area, not a National Park (proper noun.) Drones are prohibited at all National Parks.

 

[RangerEd]

I meant to bring a drone with me

There is no law from bringing your drone to the US. Like in any country, you need to follow FAA rules. I think you'll need to register the drone with the FAA and probably take the TRUST test. Go to the FAA website faa.gov for the rules.

 

[JoelP]

Red Rock Canyon is a National Conservation Area, not a National Park (proper noun.) Drones are prohibited at all National Parks.

Why does the link at Red Rock to LVsoaringclub.org redirect to A. Kendra Greene | Greene Ink Press website?

 

[Max Headroom]

There is no law from bringing your drone to the US. Like in any country, you need to follow FAA rules. I think you'll need to register the drone with the FAA and probably take the TRUST test. Go to the FAA website faa.gov for the rules.

I meant to sell that's why i added the

 

[Phantomrain.org]

I think there is another reality now that has taken place , something that has been brewing for awhile now.
The damge to DJI has been done, it will never carry the same momentum its tainted with bad press and bad blood.

I dont think they will ban DJI now that they are no longer larger than life status, and the damage done will last a long time . Every business decision that they make now will irriatate and frustrate us more then it did in the past.

I do think Drones in general will continue to get sqeezed not because we drone pilots did anything wrong but because control is taken very slowly an sometime goes up higher but down lower , and that is what were going to see now.

The mavic 4 Pro was a small tragedy in so many ways as it really hit home how hard DJI is being pressed and how that alone had such an impact on everyone who owns a DJI drone.

So its not so much about sales as a Parrallel shift thats taken place , a negative vibe that you now encounter with DJI drones from the Post office to UPS , a panic alarm that goes off as they scan and check your package.

I had a few people try to send me the Mavic 4 pro but it did not go well.

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[JimWest]

I'm dealing (again!) with swelling issues on my six M2P batteries, so finally decided to buy at least one new one. But the DJI store does not have any. After searching a number of places, I did find one on Amazon (the listing said 'only two left'). I don't know if this is a result of tariffs and/or Chinese fears, or just because the M2P is so elderly.

 

[Cymruflyer]

I meant to sell that's why i added the

I can't believe sooo many people are too dumb to understand what you were saying. I got it straight away, maybe because I'm British. We understand these things.

 

[Cymruflyer]

I'm dealing (again!) with swelling issues on my six M2P batteries, so finally decided to buy at least one new one. But the DJI store does not have any. After searching a number of places, I did find one on Amazon (the listing said 'only two left'). I don't know if this is a result of tariffs and/or Chinese fears, or just because the M2P is so elderly.

How much are they asking for them? I'm getting the same thing now with mine, after DJI replaced them for free, due to the originals swelling badly.

 

[mavic3usa]

Red Rock Canyon is a National Conservation Area, not a National Park (proper noun.) Drones are prohibited at all National Parks.

that's why I put it in quotes. generally when we say "drones are prohibited in the national park" that's short for wildlife refuge, wilderness areas, national memorial, and national conservation area, etc.

my point was to point out that it's possible to have a constructive and workable drone policy for these federal properties that are generally considers off limits. Each and every reason for banning drones at the Grand Canyon is applicable to Red Red Canyon....except for the name of the place which in my opinion isn't valid. Try flying your drone at a national monument like Mt Rushmore and see what happens. But then again they're less lenient at that other monument Devil's Tower. Technically Red Rock is BLM land so the wilderness areas are key but again my point is it's viable to come up with a process rather than a blanket NO.

i would prefer not to debate the NPS system and it's structure and how it's all laid out, etc we can do that in another thread if you wish, I don't think that's relative to my point. I know the NPS is off limits I'm saying it doesn't have to be that way and we have a couple of good example why not.

 

[mavic3usa]

Why does the link at Red Rock to LVsoaringclub.org redirect to A. Kendra Greene | Greene Ink Press website?

Not sure but I removed the link from my post.