DRONES FLYING OVER NEW JERSEY

[mavic3usa]

So I was with my family the other night and they were asking me about this and I shared my view that originally people were seeing manned aircraft in the distance and calling them drones. Then other people look up, something most people don’t do regularly, and see an other manned aircraft they thing are drones and report them to the police and media.

My family was very skeptical and annoyed that I would think such a thing. They told me all these people can’t be wrong and that they’ve heard eye witness accounts of people describing them. They asked me if I thought that many people could be that dumb. It got heated.

I went outside to take a little break and looked up and saw, what I knew to be a plane or other manned aircraft going right above the house. I rushed in and told everybody to come out right away that there was a drone flying right over the house and that I was wrong! I was so wrong!

My family rushed outside with their cameras and looked at it for several seconds in complete silence and then people started seeing other “drones.” Then my Dad finally said, “those are planes idiots, we are right next to an airport.”

I looked at him, smirked, and said, “I know.”

Point was made. Argument ended. See photo of our “drone” sighting.

Was this picture taken of an object 200 feet over your house?

Oh wait....people see manned planes at 20,000 feet and mistake the distance (at night) for 200 feet.

You took a picture of a plane over your house, so what. it funny how none of the confirmed manned aircraft videos seem to show manned aircraft apparently not moving or hovering for extended periods or moving in erratic patterns.

Please take a picture and show it when the object is 200 feet over your house.
Please take a video of a manned aircraft doing circles around a nearby field in your neighborhood.
Please take a picture of a manned aircraft hovering over the nearby train station.
You can't.

Doesn't surprise me the argument get heated. That's expected for obvious reasons.

We've already said there are people reporting manned aircraft and they are mistaken as drones. We get it.

The pentagon, the White House, the police, and the public have already admitted there are verified drone sightings and in fact the FAA launched a TFR to stop those drones from flying. Posting pictures of verified manned aircraft flying around your neighbor which people already know are out there especially if you live near an airport (no one is claiming the sky should be free of manned aircraft) only serve to increase the number of manned aircraft photos and videos in a failed attempt to drown out and downplay the number of legitimate drone sightings and oh....to win a personal family argument.

 

[eEridani]

The single somewhat credible report of drones I have read about this invasion was from a police officer who said he saw dozens of drones following a coast guard cutter into port. The only other corroboration of this single event came from a congressman who said he heard a coast guard commander say in a private conversion his boat was followed by drones (aka hearsay).

While somewhat credible on the face of it, why hasn't any official Coast Guard rep mentioned it? That simple fact moves the report into that less than credible category.

ps: seagulls follow boats into port all the time. Their wings can iridesce and look like lights. I suspect they look pretty strange to folk who haven't spent time offshore and seen birds doing what birds do.

 

[brett8883]

Was this picture taken of an object 200 feet over your house?

Oh wait....people see manned planes at 20,000 feet and mistake the distance (at night) for 200 feet.

You took a picture of a plane over your house, so what. it funny how none of the confirmed manned aircraft videos seem to show manned aircraft apparently not moving or hovering for extended periods or moving in erratic patterns.

Please take a picture and show it when the object is 200 feet over your house.
Please take a video of a manned aircraft doing circles around a nearby field in your neighborhood.
Please take a picture of a manned aircraft hovering over the nearby train station.
You can't.

Doesn't surprise me the argument get heated. That's expected for obvious reasons.

We've already said there are people reporting manned aircraft and they are mistaken as drones. We get it.

The pentagon, the White House, the police, and the public have already admitted there are verified drone sightings and in fact the FAA launched a TFR to stop those drones from flying. Posting pictures of verified manned aircraft flying around your neighbor which people already know are out there especially if you live near an airport (no one is claiming the sky should be free of manned aircraft) only serve to increase the number of manned aircraft photos and videos in a failed attempt to drown out and downplay the number of legitimate drone sightings and oh....to win a personal family argument.

First of all, I have no idea how high this aircraft was flying. I couldn’t even tell you if it was a plane or a helicopter and I frequently fly in my friends GA planes and helicopters. I don’t know and would never claim to know because I know that is a thing you can’t know.

I myself am an experienced drone pilot and I have no confidence I could tell you if a drone was flying 200ft, 400ft, or 1000 ft. without knowing how large the drone is. Even if I knew how large it was, that would be very difficult. So I just have no confidence a member of the public that has no experience is able to do that.

Additionally, you can’t tell me with a straight face some member of the public can tell the difference between a drone flying at 200 ft and a helicopter flying at 500-1000ft. AT NIGHT, they look exactly the same.

I don’t doubt that there have been some drone sightings. we know there are millions of drones in the US and they’re allowed to fly legally at night. But when people are talking about SUV size drones, or drones that are following navy ships from out at sea in formation, or are so fast, they outrun a helicopter, you just kind of got a call BS.

 

[Chip]

The single somewhat credible report of drones I have read about this invasion was from a police officer who said he saw dozens of drones following a coast guard cutter into port. The only other corroboration of this single event came from a congressman who said he heard a coast guard commander say in a private conversion his boat was followed by drones (aka hearsay).

While somewhat credible on the face of it, why hasn't any official Coast Guard rep mentioned it? That simple fact moves the report into that less than credible category.

ps: seagulls follow boats into port all the time. Their wings can iridesce and look like lights. I suspect they look pretty strange to folk who haven't spent time offshore and seen birds doing what birds do.

I agree that this report by police and coast guard is credible and concerning. The USCG reports to the feds not to local police and sheriff. The CG Captain probably got a raise and immediate transfer to Tonga...

 

[mavic3usa]

Additionally, you can’t tell me with a straight face some member of the public can tell the difference between a drone flying at 200 ft and a helicopter flying at 500-1000ft. AT NIGHT, they look exactly the same.

of course you cannot. you need more information than just how high it might be. no one should try to figure out what these are based on looks alone.

 

[brett8883]

Guys here’s a really good article from someone on the ground there in New Jersey. This is exactly what I have been trying to say.

No Large Drones in New Jersey Skies!

National drone expert suggests sightings were small UAVs.

thedroningcompany.com

 

[brett8883]

of course you cannot. you need more information than just how high it might be. no one should try to figure out what these are based on looks alone.

I’m confused. Are we saying the same thing?

 

[mavic3usa]

I’m confused. Are we saying the same thing?

Maybe. I think this difference is I would draw on my own knowledge about helicopters and drones in order to come to a reasonable conclusion. Night time and distance are not necessarily going to stump me.

 

[mavic3usa]

Guys here’s a really good article from someone on the ground there in New Jersey. This is exactly what I have been trying to say.

No Large Drones in New Jersey Skies!

National drone expert suggests sightings were small UAVs.

thedroningcompany.com

I think we all know there were not super large drones the size of an suv; we all know that is an exaggeration.

Are you suggesting because there were no big drones that they were big but only because they were actual manned aircraft?

I saw the reports too but I only heard a few people indicate they were big. What about all reports from people who saw ordinary size drones as in "drones" because they were hovering, or moving quickly, or flew for extended periods, or flew in places where manned aircraft should not be flying or moving erratically? The link you posted says "National drone expert suggests sightings were small UAWs" do you agree or not?

 

[MS Coast]

These Drone sighting stories are designed to create more restrictions for us Dronies.

Is it a fear of women thing?

• Jane Fonda was going to parachute into our front yards to take our guns.
• Hillary Clinton was going to sell our children as sex slaves. (When she wasn't busy taking our guns.)
• Nancy Pelosi was going to sell us out to the socialists.

Now Representative Elise Stefanik has recruited a secret army of drone pilots who are helping to carry out her evil plot to legislate the end of recreational and individual commercial drone flying?

 

[brett8883]

I think we all know there were not super large drones the size of an suv; we all know that is an exaggeration.

Are you suggesting because there were no big drones that they were big but only because they were actual manned aircraft?

I saw the reports too but I only heard a few people indicate they were big. What about all reports from people who saw ordinary size drones as in "drones" because they were hovering, or moving quickly, or flew for extended periods, or flew in places where manned aircraft should not be flying or moving erratically? The link you posted says "National drone expert suggests sightings were small UAWs" do you agree or not?

Sure but what’s the problem then? I was under the impression that people were freaking out because there were all these big (and therefore military grade) drones flying around that our military was saying wasn’t them. That’s where the whole Iran mothership false rumor came from I thought.

And what that guy in the article is saying is there there are no big drones and no abnormal drone activity whatsoever.

You see where they installed that new super duper radar that can track drones in 360 degrees and there was a grand total of 12 drones on Saturday and 1 on Sunday detected in the entire state of New Jersey?

 

[Bad Santa]

I feel sorry for humanity that people are still trying to make this into a huge conspiracy.
But then, again, there are people who believe in a flying spaghetti monster and flat earth.

 

[Droning on and on...]

Is it a fear of women thing?

• Jane Fonda was going to parachute into our front yards to take our guns.
• Hillary Clinton was going to sell our children as sex slaves. (When she wasn't busy taking our guns.)
• Nancy Pelosi was going to sell us out to the socialists.

The last is in error... should be, "Nancy Pelosi was going to sell us out to the socialists while trading child sex slaves using the guns she confiscated"

Now Representative Elise Stefanik has recruited a secret army of drone pilots who are helping to carry out her evil plot to legislate the end of recreational and individual commercial drone flying?

Tsk tsk, again incomplete. Missing at the end, "...while imposing socialism with an army of child sex slaves carrying confiscated guns".

It's a holiday song... The first 4 verses of The Twelve Days of D.C.

 

[mavic3usa]

You see where they installed that new super duper radar that can track drones in 360 degrees and there was a grand total of 12 drones on Saturday and 1 on Sunday detected in the entire state of New Jersey?

How so? I thought it was said there were hundreds of commercial and recreational drones normally flying at night and it's like that every night for weeks and months and years, people just don't look up and see them. And now, there are only 12? What happened to all those recreational and commercial flights that carry on each night?

Doesn't sound to me like super duper radar tracking equipment is working all that well.

 

[brett8883]

How so? I thought it was said there were hundreds of commercial and recreational drones normally flying at night and it's like that every night for weeks and months and years, people just don't look up and see them. And now, there are only 12? What happened to all those recreational and commercial flights that carry on each night?

Doesn't sound to me like super duper radar tracking equipment is working all that well.

Im just saying that there’s no empirical evidence to suggest that anything abnormal is going on even when they brought in the most sophisticated equipment we got.

 

[Wanbli]

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[George2505]

With the drone sightings flying over New Jersey and getting people upset, I'm concerned about fly here in Delaware.
All I need is to have some "Karen" start yelling DRONE, DRONE, and the trouble will start.
No, I don't fly at night, so I'm more visible at day, but then again, if I fly high enough.....well, what they can't see won't hurt them.
There's always something to screw up flying.

To my neighbors in Maryland, use caution guys and girls.

Jalous

With the drone sightings flying over New Jersey and getting people upset, I'm concerned about fly here in Delaware.
All I need is to have some "Karen" start yelling DRONE, DRONE, and the trouble will start.
No, I don't fly at night, so I'm more visible at day, but then again, if I fly high enough.....well, what they can't see won't hurt them.
There's always something to screw up flying.

To my neighbors in Maryland, use caution guys and girls.

jealousy of people who cannot afford it , as always

 

[Army Vet]

One would think that some police department or the military, or the FBI would just take pictures of these drones with a FLIR camera to finally identify what they are. unless they don't want people to know. I have seen pictures of a C-117 approaching at night that was eight miles away and the image was tack-sharp.

Even the network news should be able to field a good team of camera men and capture some excellent footage with a visual reference to size. The NFL video cameras are great at catching flying footballs lol.
It's pretty ridiculous that we don't know for sure.

 

[Wanbli]

Even the network news should be able to field a good team of camera men and capture some excellent footage with a visual reference to size. The NFL video cameras are great at catching flying footballs lol.
It's pretty ridiculous that we don't know for sure.

That is, unless this whole thing is a SHAM and the powers that be want to scare the crap out of the whole world to enslave the masses. It's even more ridiculous that everyone is falling for it! Ha Ha! Perhaps you should check out this video:

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